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【聊了什么The What】 这期节目，我们聊了新片《Hamnet》：一部改编自 Maggie O’Farrell 同名小说的故事，并聊了聊它为什么能让人哭到崩溃（或完全哭不出来但仍然狠狠爱上），聊到它那种带点神秘主义、符号化的拍法如何制造出希腊悲剧式的宣泄/净化。 我们也不可避免的想起了之前聊过的Wifedom。这是另一个文学巨擘榨干身边女性的故事吗？还是他讲述了一个超脱语境、触及人类隽永生死问题的经典悲剧？把女性与自然、草药、预言、女巫气质连在一起，是一种温柔的赋权，还是另一种更古老的陷阱？艺术究竟是在表演痛苦，还是在替人类提供一种“活下去的解释”？归根结底，在2025年重拍莎士比亚是很需要勇气的；赵婷交出的答卷你们满意吗？ In this episode, we discuss o̶u̶r̶ ̶f̶a̶v̶o̶r̶i̶t̶e̶ ̶n̶e̶p̶o̶ ̶b̶a̶b̶y̶ Chloé Zhao’s new feature film Hamnet, adapted from the novel of the same name by Maggie O’Farrell. We explore why it can make you cry uncontrollably (or not cry at all and still fall deeply in love with it), and how its mystical, symbolic filmmaking evokes a Greek tragedy-like catharsis. It is hard not to draw comparison with Wifedom, which we’ve talked about in the past. Is this yet another story of a literary giant draining the life out of the women around him? Or is it a timeless tragedy that transcends context to speak to the eternal human questions of life and death? When women are linked with nature, herbs, prophecy, and witch-like qualities—is it a gentle form of empowerment, or an older, more insidious trap? Is art merely performing pain, or is it offering humanity a way to keep going? Ultimately, remaking Shakespeare in 2025 takes courage—did Chloé Zhao deliver? 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:02:22 《Hamnet》、演员阵容、TIFF 口碑 * 00:04:46 四个女的的初印象（以及不同的哭晕程度） * 00:13:37 文学巨擘背后被隐身的女人：与《Wifedom》的文脉相通 * 00:21:10 除了审判隐身的丈夫，或许我们还能讲点别的故事 * 00:29:18 自然叙事：女性/土地的连结与争议 * 00:37:16 Le Guin、女巫叙事与男权结构的回声 * 00:48:18 “To be or not to be”：没看懂也没关系 * 00:59:50 结尾的半圆镜头：为什么人类要讲故事 * 01:06:16 “人生三苦”：理解痛苦不等于失去情感 * 00:02:22 Chloé Zhao’s Hamnet, cast, and TIFF reception * 00:04:46 First impressions from four women (and varying levels of emotional breakdown) * 00:13:37 The invisible woman behind the literary giant: connections to Wifedom * 00:21:10 Beyond judging the hidden husband—maybe there are other stories we can tell * 00:29:18 Nature narratives: the contested link between women and land * 00:37:16 Le Guin, witch storytelling, and echoes of patriarchy * 00:48:18 “To be or not to be”: it’s okay if you don’t understand it * 00:59:50 The final half-circle shot: why humans tell stories * 01:06:16 The “three sufferings” of life: understanding pain doesn’t mean feeling less 【拓展链接 The Links】 * Hamnet: A Novel of the Plague * Hamnet Book Club * Wifedom * The New Yorker对赵婷的采访 * Oh Brother! The Jupes Get Shakespearean 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 本期节目，我们与哲学家袁源、友台美轮美换主播Lokin一同过度解读了保罗·托马斯·安德森（Paul Thomas Anderson）很有嚼劲的新作《一战再战》。这部电影是让小杨“撇着嘴进去，真香着出来”的年度惊喜，也是袁源觉得十分“就这”的陈词滥调。我们从加缪的《反叛者》出发，探讨暴力革命的伦理困境：当“妇人之仁”成为罪行，对抽象理念的狂热是否必然以牺牲具体的人为代价？Perfidia是一个挑战观众道德底线的反英雄，还是一位被男性凝视和刻板印象所困的复杂女性？Perfidia式的、为“爽”而战的景观式革命的反面，是否是Sensei式的、根植于邻里互助的日常英雄主义？ For this episode, we invited philosopher Yuan Yuan and Lokin to join us in over-interpreting Paul Thomas Anderson’s chewy new film One Battle After Another. It’s a movie that some of us walked into with doubts and walked out of utterly charmed, while others find it to be a thoroughly “meh” bundle of clichés. Starting from Camus’s The Rebel, we dig into the ethical dilemmas of revolutionary violence: when “womanly compassion” becomes a crime, does fervor for an abstract ideal inevitably demand the sacrifice of concrete human lives? Is Perfidia a boundary-pushing anti-hero who defies our moral expectations, or a complex woman trapped within male gaze and stereotype? And if Perfidia’s spectacle-driven, pleasure-forward revolution is one end of the spectrum, is its opposite the Sensei style—an everyday heroism grounded in neighborly mutual aid? 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:00 电影《一战再战》剧情速览和第一印象 * 10:23 为何将60年代的革命美学平移到2008年让人“不买账”？ * 22:34 暴力革命的道德思辨：电影中的革命行动是否满足“正义的目标”、“必要性”与“相称性”？ * 31:33 Perfidia是刻板印象还是反英雄？ * 54:12 Willa打破父辈创伤的循环了吗？ * 58:03 “非盈利蛇头”Sensei和日常的英雄主义 * 67:07 对白人至上主义的辛辣讽刺 * 78:47 结局：这也能大团圆 * 00:00 Quick plot recap of One Battle After Another and our initial reactions * 10:23 Why does transplanting 1960s revolutionary aesthetics into 2008 feel so unconvincing? * 22:34 Moral reasoning around violent revolution: do the film’s actions satisfy “just cause,” “necessity,” and “proportionality”? * 31:33 Perfidia: sexualized or anti-hero? * 54:12 Does Willa break the cycle of her parents’ trauma? * 58:03 The “non-profit coyote” Sensei and the quiet heroism of the everyday * 67:07 A sharp satire of white supremacism * 78:47 The ending: …so this counts as a happy ending? 【拓展链接 The Links】 * Liberalism in Dark Times: The Liberal Ethos in the Twentieth Century * The Rebel: An Essay on Man in Revolt * Vineland 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 本期节目，小蓝和小杨将自己“逼到墙角”，聊一聊让我们甘心情愿入坑的国际K-Pop女团KATSEYE。这个由六个截然不同的文化背景、肤色成员组成的团体出道曲成绩优异，而且靠hyperpop单曲“Gnarly”迅速出圈，已经成为美国炙手可热的新人偶像。她们身上那种“全校最漂亮的mean girls跟你天下第一好”的鲜活与“有病又有梗”的魅力与以往的女团相比更松弛、自由。 但同时，KATSEYE也代表着K-pop全球扩张战略“质变”的一个成功样本——HYBE和Geffin Records强强联手不仅是韩美资本的一场盛大联姻，更是一个将K-pop工业化造星体系移植到美国本土的庞大实验。我们跟随着出道纪录片《Popstar Academy》，见证这场巨大的“楚门秀”如何将活生生、充满棱角的女孩们锻造成精美的商品。在这套精密运作的资本逻辑下，“人”与“商品”的边界变得模糊，友谊、梦想与自我认同被撕裂，作为娱乐献祭给全球观众。从成员选拔中无法掩盖的地缘政治与种族“拼色游戏”，到闵熙珍与HYBE的冲突所揭示的平台垄断与创作者困境，我们探讨K-pop这套“反人性”却极致高效的体系在全球复制时，究竟是在输出文化，还是在输出一套更精密的规训与控制？ In this episode, Xiao Lan and Xiao Yang dive into KATSEYE, the international K-pop girl group that's completely hooked us. This six-member group debuted to chart success and broke into the mainstream with hyperpop single "Gnarly." They radiate a chaotic, meme-able charm—"the prettiest mean girls who are also ride-or-die for you"—that feels more relaxed and subversive than previous girl groups. But KATSEYE also represents K-pop's global expansion "qualitative shift." The HYBE and Geffen Records collaboration transplants K-pop's industrialized star-making system onto American soil. Their Netflix documentary Popstar Academy was a "Truman Show" forging strong personalities into polished products, where the line between "person" and "commodity" blurs. From market-driven diversity in member selection to Min Hee-jin's conflict with HYBE exposing creator struggles, we ask: is K-pop exporting culture—or a sophisticated apparatus of exploitation and control? 【时间轴 The When】 * 02:32 - 04:55 - KATSEYE 是个什么样的女团？ * 04:55 - 10:49 - Gnarly歌曲制作中加入不雅声音引发的巨大争议，行业应该如何对待未成年偶像 * 10:49 - 13:30 - KATSEYE成员台上和台下的反差魅力，“发疯”的Gen-Z女团来整顿韩娱了 * 13:30 - 18:47 - 纪录片《Popstar Academy》的“楚门秀”式选秀、K-pop严苛的训练体系如何与美国文化碰撞 * 18:47 - 28:31 - Manon的角色弧光与争议：不努力是偶像最大的原罪吗？ * 28:31 - 45:19 - 选秀的残酷本质、地缘政治与种族配额：国籍、市场等因素如何决定谁能出道 * 45:19 - 53:37 - HYBE x Geffen资本联姻背后的商业模式、全球扩张野心 * 53:37 - 59:19 - NEWJEANS 的官司里闵熙珍与HYBE的争议是创新、复制与控制权的根本矛盾 * 59:19 - 69:54 - K-pop的造星方法论走向世界的过程中会去芜存菁吗？ * 02:32 - 04:55 - Who is KATSEYE? The Korean-American entertainment powerhouse deal behind the group * 04:55 - 10:49 - The "Gnarly" controversy: Why explicit sounds in the track sparked massive backlash * 10:49 - 13:30 - KATSEYE's duality: How this "unhinged" Gen-Z girl group is disrupting K-pop norms * 13:30 - 18:47 - Popstar Academy's reality TV manipulation and K-pop's brutal training system meets American culture * 18:47 - 28:31 - Manon's journey and the backlash: Is "not trying hard enough" the ultimate idol crime? * 28:31 - 45:19 - Beyond talent: How geopolitics, racial quotas, and market appeal really determine who debuts * 45:19 - 53:37 - HYBE × Geffen: Unpacking the business strategy and global ambitions * 53:37 - 59:19 - The NewJeans conflict: Innovation vs. imitation and the battle for creative control * 59:19 - 69:54 - Can K-pop's factory system evolve as it goes global—or will it just export the same problems? 【拓展链接 The Links】 * The fued between Min Hee-Jin (NJZ) and HYBE, a timeline * "Gnarly" MV * KATSEYE 的综艺（Warning: 很吵） * ”Machine Girl“ 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助