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【聊了什么The What】 四个人的大脑里只剩下三件事：尼克斯夺冠、世界杯，以及成年人死不要脸非要过的暑假。 这期依旧没有大纲、没有知识、没有准备，只有氛围。 Only three things left in our four smooth brains: the Knicks winning it all, the World Cup, and the summer break four grown adults shamelessly insisted on taking. Still no outline, no knowledge, no prep, vibes only. 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:17 开场：这期一毛钱大纲都没有，vibe check 的核心就是没有核心 * 03:13 尼克斯夺冠：纽约漫长的冬天终于结束了 * 12:31 纽约的亲儿子和亲女儿，Spike Lee 的场边人生 * 17:54 世界杯：中国队没进，于是我自由了 * 34:16 外行提问：守门员为什么跑出来？任意球时谁躺在地上？ * 39:56 世界杯里的移民美国：移民社区、办公室的两台电视、两国小吃，和破防的同事 * 51:23 ESPN《30 for 30》之《Bad Boys》与罗德曼 * 53:38 Olivia Wilde 的黑色喜剧：四个人、一间屋子、一场摇摇欲坠的婚姻 * 59:05 Patrick Radden Keefe 新书《London Falling》 * 60:09 一部会让所有人哗哗大哭的羊侦探电影 * 62:59 纳博科夫《普宁》与《微暗的火》：不可靠叙述者的迷宫 00:17 Opening: not a shred of an outline this time — the whole point of a vibe check is that there is no point * 03:13 The Knicks take the title: New York's long winter is finally over * 12:31 New York's real son and real daughter, and Spike Lee's life at courtside * 17:54 The World Cup: China didn't qualify, so I was free * 34:16 Questions from the clueless: why does the goalkeeper run upfield? Who has to lie down during a free kick? * 39:56 Immigrant America at the World Cup: the neighborhoods, two TVs in the office, snacks from both countries, and colleagues coming undone * 51:23 ESPN's 30 for 30: Bad Boys, and the Rodman one * 53:38 Olivia Wilde's black comedy: four people, one room, one marriage falling apart * 59:05 Patrick Radden Keefe's new book, London Falling * 60:09 The sheep-detective movie that makes absolutely everyone sob * 62:59 Nabokov's Pnin and Pale Fire: a labyrinth of unreliable narrators 【拓展链接 The Links】 影视 * 《The Invite》(2026) * 《The Drama》(2026) * 《The Sheep Detectives》(2026) * ESPN《30 for 30》之《Bad Boys》(2014) * ESPN《30 for 30》之《Rodman: For Better or Worse》(2019) 书 * Patrick Radden Keefe《London Falling》(2026) — 副标题 A Mysterious Death in a Gilded City and a Family's Search for Truth，围绕 19 岁的 Zac Brettler 之死展开。（Goodreads） * 纳博科夫《普宁 Pnin》(1957) * 纳博科夫《微暗的火 Pale Fire》(1962) * Hernan Diaz《Trust》(2022) * Anne Helen Petersen 的 newsletter《Culture Study》 — 同名播客在 culturestudypod.substack.com 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 克里斯托弗·诺兰的《奥德赛》已成为2026年无可争议的文化现象，我们也从书柜的角落里把奥德赛淘了出来。这期节目我们对比了3000年前的荷马文本与2026年的好莱坞叙事——这究竟是对荷马史诗的忠实改编，还是诺兰式的现代男性忏悔录？本期《疲惫娇娃》，我们聊了聊Emily Wilson译本中那个复杂的男人如何被马特·达蒙演绎成了稳重的中年大哥，探讨了佩内洛普、喀耳刻等女性角色在诺兰镜头下如何变得薄如纸片。为何诺兰总是执着于拍“做错事的男人”在内心博弈，而忽视了受害者应有的分量？为何马特·达蒙的脸让人想投他一票，却消解了原作中骗子英雄的油腻感？ Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey has become the undisputed cultural phenomenon of 2026, so we dug our own copy of the Odyssey out of the corner of the bookshelf. This episode compares Homer's 3,000-year-old text with Hollywood's 2026 retelling — is this a faithful adaptation of the epic, or a Nolan-style confession of modern masculinity? On this episode of 疲惫娇娃CyberPink, we talk about how the complicated man of Emily Wilson's translation became a reliable middle-aged PTSD vet, and how female characters like Penelope and Circe turn paper-thin under Nolan's lens. Why is Nolan forever fixated on the inner struggles of "men who did something wrong," while giving the victims none of the weight they deserve? And why does Matt Damon's face make you want to vote for him — while dissolving the sleazy, trickster-hero quality of the original? 【时间轴 The When】 * 02:23 - 《奥德赛》剧情概览：奥德修斯的长路与归乡 * 05:47 - 工业电影的诚意：演员在船上泡了四个月的真实质感 * 14:41 - 导演的作者权力：从《奥本海默》的成功到《奥德赛》的空白支票 * 22:22 - 作为流动的西方正典，为何翻译即创造 * 39:01 - 独眼巨人Polyphemus：动作奇观对叙事复杂性的牺牲 * 50:01 - 核心主题：宙斯法则（Xenia）与当代社会对他者的恐惧 * 62:35 - 麦特·达蒙的“好人脸”与奥德修斯的油腻感 * 69:34 - 艾略特·佩吉的角色与跨性别政治的潜文本 * 74:51 - 纸面化的女性群像：喀耳刻、卡吕普索与佩内洛普的改编缺憾 * 89:01 - 王子成长记：荷兰弟饰演的忒勒马科斯带来的日常温情 * 100:34 - 尾声：在台下传纸条的听众比老师的课堂更重要 * 02:23 — The Odyssey plot overview: Odysseus's long road home * 05:47 — The sincerity of industrial filmmaking: four months of actors actually soaking on a boat * 14:41 — The director as author: from the success of Oppenheimer to the blank check of The Odyssey * 22:22 — The Western canon as something fluid, and why translation is creation * 39:01 — Polyphemus the Cyclops: action spectacle at the cost of narrative complexity * 50:01 — Core theme: the law of Zeus (xenia) and contemporary society's fear of the other * 62:35 — Matt Damon's "good guy face" vs. Odysseus's sleaziness * 69:34 — Elliot Page's role and the subtext of trans politics * 74:51 — Flattened women: what the adaptation loses in Circe, Calypso, and Penelope * 89:01 — A prince grows up: the everyday warmth Tom Holland brings to Telemachus * 100:34 — Closing: the audience passing notes in the back row matters more than the teacher's lecture 【拓展链接 The Links】 * Instagram上跨性别权益倡导者@justflintisfine对奥德赛的点评 * 译者对诺兰奥德赛的批评 An Uncomplicated Man * Elliot Page的专访 Elliot Page Is Ready for This Moment * The Penelopiad * Middle-Aged Matt Damon is Your Guy * What Translator Emily Wilson Thinks of Christopher Nolan’s ‘The Odyssey’ * Why ‘The Odyssey’ Is the West’s Greatest Story 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【一起来读书吧 Bookclub】 《台湾漫游录》线下读书会： 8月9日，我们会在纽约中文独立书店Accent Sisters举办《台湾漫游录》线下读书会。故事讲述了1938年日本统治台湾时期，一位年轻的日本女性小说家来到岛上，希望能一路吃穿台湾，在这个过程中她爱上了自己的女性翻译，但却苦于难以克服殖民者与被殖民者之间的鸿沟。这本书今年斩获了国际布克奖，是首部获得这部奖项的华语原著作品。 * 读书会链接：https://luma.com/yayseynm "Taiwan Travelogue" In-Person Book Club: On August 9th, we'll be hosting an in-person book club for Taiwan Travelogue at Accent Sisters, a Chinese-language independent bookstore in New York. The story follows a young Japanese novelist who travels to Taiwan during the Japanese colonial period in 1938, hoping to eat and dress her way across the island. Along the way, she falls in love with her female translator, but struggles to overcome the gulf between colonizer and colonized. The book won this year's International Booker Prize, making it the first Chinese-language original work to receive the award. * Book club link: https://luma.com/yayseynm 【聊了什么The What】 这期节目，我们和友台新新人类的主播采薇把去年两部大火的关于家庭创伤的电影——《情感价值》和左撇子女孩。一部是台北夜市里五光十色的单亲家庭故事，一部是奥斯陆老宅里安静流淌的父女和解。表面上文化背景毫不相干，但其实在讲同一件事：房子如何变成家族秘密的容器，孩子如何在大人自己都说不清的沉默里，替上一代扛下没有被言说的创伤。 孩童视角的滤镜，是四两拨千斤的巧思，还是对真实伤害的一次美化和逃避？一个从未说出"对不起"的父亲，值得被原谅吗？还是我们能给出的，只是一种不求回报的宽恕？创伤到底是应该被讲述出来，还是有些沉默本该被尊重？ In this episode, we're joined by Caiwei, our friend from Pixel Perfect, to talk about two of last year's buzziest films about family trauma: Sentimental Value and Left-Handed Girl. One is a single-mother story set amid the neon chaos of a Taipei night market; the other is a quiet, slow-burning father-daughter reconciliation unfolding inside an old house in Oslo. On the surface, the cultural backdrops couldn't be more different, but underneath, both films are doing the same thing: turning a house into a vessel for family secrets, and asking how children end up carrying the unspoken trauma of the generation before them, inherited through silences the adults themselves can't put into words. Is the child's-eye filter a clever, light-touch device, or is it a way of prettifying and dodging real harm? Does a father who never says "I'm sorry" deserve to be forgiven — or is the most we can offer him a kind of grace that asks for nothing in return? And should trauma be spoken aloud at all, or is some silence owed its own respect? 【时间轴 The When】 * 03:50 - 《左撇子女孩》剧情简介：台北夜市里破碎的三代女性 * 26:25 - 两片中的孩子：以静 vs Eric，谁在拯救谁 * 31:30 - 母亲与姐姐角色的"男性意淫"式书写 * 45:43 - 父亲是"Art Monster"：唯一的爱的管道是作品 * 56:28 - 挪威二战历史、祖母之死与集体沉默 * 63:16 - Elle Fanning与美国：天真的旁观者，以及一把"骗人"的IKEA椅子 * 73:29 - Catherine Liu的"创伤文化"理论：好莱坞的同理心剧场 * 77:14 - 宽恕与原谅的区别：Nora 和 Agnes 的成长弧光 * 89:15 - 一部关于电影、表演与创伤消费的电影 * 03:50 - Left-Handed Girl plot rundown: three generations of women coming apart in a Taipei night market * 26:25 - The kids in both films: Yijing vs. Eric — who's actually saving whom * 31:30 - The mother and older sister as "male-gaze fantasy" — how their characters are written * 45:43 - The father as "Art Monster": art as his only channel for love * 56:28 - Norway's WWII history, the grandmother's death, and a collective silence * 63:16 - Elle Fanning and America: the innocent bystander, plus one very deceptive IKEA chair * 73:29 - Catherine Liu's "trauma culture" theory: Hollywood's theater of empathy * 77:14 - Grace vs. forgiveness: the arcs of Nora and Agnes * 89:15 - A film about filmmaking, performance, and the consumption of trauma 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【一起来读书吧 Bookclub】 我们最近会举办两个读书会活动！ 《台湾漫游录》线下读书会： 8月9日，我们会在纽约中文独立书店Accent Sisters举办《台湾漫游录》线下读书会。故事讲述了1938年日本统治台湾时期，一位年轻的日本女性小说家来到岛上，希望能一路吃穿台湾，在这个过程中她爱上了自己的女性翻译，但却苦于难以克服殖民者与被殖民者之间的鸿沟。这本书今年斩获了国际布克奖，是首部获得这部奖项的华语原著作品。 * 读书会链接：https://luma.com/yayseynm Apple in China 线上读书会： 7月24日，我们想和大家一起线上共读Patrick McGee 的热销作品 Apple in China。这本书细致讲述了苹果如何在中国建立起现代史上最复杂、最高效的制造与供应链体系之一，也讲述了中国如何成为世界上最有价值公司的关键支柱。作者 Patrick McGee 将在活动最后 30 分钟加入我们，回答大家的问题；问答部分使用英文。 * 读书会链接：https://luma.com/buwyzrkk We have two book club events coming up soon! "Taiwan Travelogue" In-Person Book Club: On August 9th, we'll be hosting an in-person book club for Taiwan Travelogue at Accent Sisters, a Chinese-language independent bookstore in New York. The story follows a young Japanese novelist who travels to Taiwan during the Japanese colonial period in 1938, hoping to eat and dress her way across the island. Along the way, she falls in love with her female translator, but struggles to overcome the gulf between colonizer and colonized. The book won this year's International Booker Prize, making it the first Chinese-language original work to receive the award. * Book club link: https://luma.com/yayseynm On July 24th, we’ll be reading Patrick McGee’s bestselling book Apple in China together online. The book offers a detailed account of how Apple built one of the most complex and efficient manufacturing and supply chain systems in modern history in China. It also tells the story of how China became a crucial pillar of the world’s most valuable company. Author Patrick McGee will join us for the final 30 minutes of the event to answer questions. The Q&A session will be conducted in English. * Book club link: https://luma.com/buwyzrkk 【聊了什么The What】 这是一场线下录制内容！ 最近，小杨参加了Same Room纽约播客节，和友台新新人类的主播采薇、残言片语的主播Mercy和喜剧播客唠点扭腰磕的主播Rachel以匮乏时代的流行文化为主题，聊了一期2026流行文化小盘点。 本来有大纲来着，但是四个女的全部失控。录制过程十分快乐，希望你也能听得开心！ This is an in-person recorded episode! Xiao Yang recently attended the Same Room New York Podcast Festival and sat down with hosts from three sister podcasts — Cai Wei from "New New Humans," Mercy from "Fragments of Remaining Words" (残言片语), and Rachel from the comedy podcast "Nagging Points, Twisting Waists" (唠点扭腰磕) — for a conversation about pop culture in a 2026 vibecession. We did have an agenda but that went out of the window - but we had fun, and hope you do too. 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:00 - 开场：7月及8月线上线下读书会报名指南 * 01:21 - 播客节现场：四位女性主播的聚首 * 05:30 - 细聊郑智化轮椅风波：为什么我们难以讨论少数群体的权利 * 11:29 - TradWife 与利己主义：解析当代女性面对经济下行的心理补偿 * 18:22 - 文化口红指数：为什么网络上教人“拿结果”的博主大行其道 * 29:00 - 记者 vs 博主：主流媒体的娱乐化趋势与事实查证的消失 * 38:45 - 寻找真相的困境：在信息爆炸中感到匮乏的希望 * 41:25 - 迪拜巧克力走红背后：从视觉与听觉冲击到味觉的割裂 * 46:09 - 茉莉奶白商战纪实：中国速度与抽象美学在曼哈顿的结合 * 60:22 - 争议性讨论：关于网红“夏美”与性工作者的可见度困境 * 67:11 - 拒绝碎片化：如何通过“笨手机”和无聊感重获个人Voice重新注意力对抗无聊 * 00:00 – Intro: sign-up guide for July and August online/offline book club sessions * 01:21 – At the podcast festival: four female hosts come together * 05:30 – A close look at the Zheng Zhihua wheelchair controversy: why it's so hard to discuss minority rights * 11:29 – Tradwives and self-interest: unpacking the psychological compensation contemporary women seek amid economic downturn * 18:22 – The "cultural lipstick index": why influencers teaching people to "get results" are thriving online * 29:00 – Journalists vs. influencers: mainstream media's drift toward entertainment and the disappearance of fact-checking * 38:45 – The struggle to find truth: feeling a scarcity of hope amid an explosion of information * 41:25 – Behind the Dubai chocolate craze: from visual and auditory impact to a disconnect in taste * 46:09 – A true account of the Molly Tea (茉莉奶白) price war: Chinese speed and abstract aesthetics colliding in Manhattan * 60:22 – A controversial discussion: influencer "Xia Mei" (夏美) and the visibility struggles of sex workers * 67:11 – Rejecting fragmentation: reclaiming personal voice and attention through "dumbphones" and embracing boredom 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助