太进步啦

(00:00) 功德圆满 (00:30) Emily Wilson and Her Discontents 艾米莉威尔逊及其不满 - 诺兰是太进步啦还是不够进步？(02:27) - 诺兰是道德虚伪还是隐微拍摄？(04:52) - 芭比在谁的阵营里 (12:54) - 奥德赛作为退步史诗 (17:07) (21:58) Did you Christianize the Odyssey? 基督教化的奥德赛？ - 采访钓出了美国的全部政治光谱 (26:13) - 而中国的频谱就像月亮对太阳那样反光 (28:41) (32:51) Twilight of the Gods 诸神的黄昏 - 诺兰宇宙有神吗 (32:54) - Chads v. Christopher Nolan (38:32) (47:03) Caecus Caeco Dux 盲导盲 (55:25) 插播咬钩 笨拙的王海洋 (1:04:13) momo成众矢之的 脚注： (1:34) Anne Le Fèvre Dacier, Caroline Alexander (27:41) modern, from Latin modo (“just now”) (34:43) 《海客谈瀛洲（中）》(06:34)处提及的dual motivation theory (42:40) 《进步人传人（下）》Donna Zuckerberg (47:21) 《海客谈瀛洲（下）》(44:25)亦有记载 (1:10:00) 《不知身是客》(39:44)起 往期系列回顾与提及： 《希鹿奔野草》（《奥德赛》上） 《海客谈瀛洲（上）》 《海客谈瀛洲（中）》 《海客谈瀛洲（下）》 《不知身是客》 《进步人传人（下）》 上集及本集中提到的阅读文献： * Emily Wilson and Her Discontents 艾米莉威尔逊及其不满 Emily Wilson: Emily Wilson · An Uncomplicated Man Emily Wilson Round Two: A Trojan Horse Is Supposed to Have Humans Inside It - The Atlantic Emily Wilson在bluesky的follow up explanations: Post by @emilyrcwilson.bsky.social — Bluesky Theo Nash: The Odyssey: Emily Wilson’s review of Christopher Nolan’s movie is baffling—and I’m a classicist. Tennyson. Ulysses W.B. Yeats. Sailing to Byzantine / The Second Coming Bret Devereaux: X * Did You Christianize the Odyssey? 基督化的奥德赛 Daniel Mendelssohn: Christopher Nolan’s Artfully Woven Odyssey | Daniel Mendelsohn | The New York Review of Books Justin Chang: “Christopher Nolan Has Always Been Making ‘The Odyssey’”. Asmongold: This interview just broke the internet.. We live in a twilight world and there are no friends at dusk. Tenet, Christopher Nolan Bartsch, Shadi. 2023. Plato Goes to China. Princeton University Press. * Twilight of the Gods 诸神黄昏 Sam Kriss: You Have to Believe in the Gods Bronze Age Pervert (Costin Alamariu): Nolan's Odyssey and The Feminist Reactionary Personality Bronze Age Pervert. 2018. Bronze Age Mindset : An Exhortation. Bronze Age Pervert. Sean Illing: Homer, Nietzsche, Jesus, and the Cultural Right * Caecus Caeco Dux 盲导盲 Ezra Klein: Opinion | Christopher Nolan’s Trojan Horse - The New York Times Matt McManus: “Christopher Nolan vs. the Chuds - Jacobin” 林三土: 豆瓣或X对EW译本和Ocean Vuong的评论；这会不说EW是白左了 LRB对Ocean Vuong的review: Tom Crewe · My Hands in My Face: Ocean Vuong’s Failure * From the Functionally Blind 机能盲 The Economist: A very silly adaptation of “The Odyssey” * PAYWALLED 得交钱（别交） Zizek: THE ODYSSEY: FINALLY A GOOD CHAMBER DRAMA - by Slavoj Žižek John Byron Kuhner “The White Guilt of Christopher Nolan’s Odyssey- Compact”. 爱发电支持 加听友群请见节目详情

(00:00) 去而复返 (02:15) 这期下期momo大点兵The Catalogue of Reviews (07:41) 陟罚臧否诺兰片 (10:43) Somebody get 愤怒小鸟大耳朵 (20:13) 诺兰的《芭比》？矛盾律法，降级道德，混乱讯息，百分之二十剩余价值 (28:00) 负疚前行是如此低贱的情感 (31:29) 既非大写的英雄，甚至也不是越战老兵 (34:00) 不值得发动500到1000艘战舰的海伦 (37:47) 巧言令色罗伯帕，忠厚老实奥德修 (41:57) 诺兰落败在荷马的阴影下 (47:26) Troy isn't about you. 其他播客蹭热点的内容本台a lifetime ago”预热“的节目中全已有记载，而很多年之后诺兰会后悔当初没有采纳《太进步啦》给过他一次机会的隔空上谏。 (01:04), (21:03) 主宾之道，主宾之道之道（《海客谈瀛洲（中）》24:24起） (13:19) Early Recognition Theory (《海客谈瀛洲（下）》00:00起） (33:10) 拍恐怖片诺兰早该跟本台学学了（《海客谈瀛洲（中）》18:29起） 往期系列回顾： 《海客谈瀛洲（上）》 《海客谈瀛洲（中）》 《海客谈瀛洲（下）》 本集中提到/下集会细提的阅读文献： * Emily Wilson and Her Discontents 艾米莉威尔逊及其不满 Emily Wilson: Emily Wilson · An Uncomplicated Man Emily Wilson Round Two: A Trojan Horse Is Supposed to Have Humans Inside It - The Atlantic Emily Wilson在bluesky的follow up explanations: Post by @emilyrcwilson.bsky.social — Bluesky Theo Nash: The Odyssey: Emily Wilson’s review of Christopher Nolan’s movie is baffling—and I’m a classicist. * Did You Christianize the Odyssey? 基督化的奥德赛? Daniel Mendelssohn: Christopher Nolan’s Artfully Woven Odyssey | Daniel Mendelsohn | The New York Review of Books Justin Chang: “Christopher Nolan Has Always Been Making ‘The Odyssey’”. * Twilight of the Gods 诸神的黄昏 Sam Kriss: You Have to Believe in the Gods Bronze Age Pervert (Costin Alamariu): Nolan's Odyssey and The Feminist Reactionary Personality * Caecus Caeco Dux 盲导盲 Ezra Klein: Opinion | Christopher Nolan’s Trojan Horse - The New York Times Matt McManus: “Christopher Nolan vs. the Chuds - Jacobin” 林三土: 豆瓣或X LRB对Ocean Vuong的review: Tom Crewe · My Hands in My Face: Ocean Vuong’s Failure * From the Functionally Blind 机能盲 The Economist: A very silly adaptation of “The Odyssey” * PAYWALLED 得交钱（别交） Zizek: THE ODYSSEY: FINALLY A GOOD CHAMBER DRAMA - by Slavoj Žižek John Byron Kuhner “The White Guilt of Christopher Nolan’s Odyssey- Compact”. 爱发电支持 加听友群请见节目详情

Shakespearebaiting and Hamletmaxxing (00:00) 醉翁之意不在婷 (01:31) 为什么是女巫/妻子？ (04:24) 为什么是莎士比亚的妻子？ (07:26) 媒体的文盲叙事有如围观外国人使筷子 (11:00) 非家庭电影 (13:40) 哈姆雷特作为哀悼的投名状，和对不明觉厉之力的抬咖 (20:02) Absolutely 0 human heart was "in conflict with itself" during the making of the film. (22:01) 非虚构直给式作品反复批判 (26:57) 情绪自慰式作品串烧批判 (36:16) 伟大的作品遗憾地并不带来浅薄的救赎 (40:52) 莎剧的父辞子笑 (45:09) Vibe scripting. Don't try to understand it. Feel it. (47:28) 打倒老登后，收剑四顾心茫然 (49:29) 泪腺电疗李焕英 (51:17) 说说婷的其它大作 - The Rider (51:23) - Nomadland (54:07) (59:01) 说说真正值得看的莎的同人 - 莎翁情史 (59:20) - Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are Dead (1:00:41) - 狮子王！(1:02:42) - Infinite Jest (1:02:59) 脚注： (01:56) 《进步博物馆（上）》 (02:09) 《海客谈瀛洲（上）》 (17:37) (46:19) Harold Bloom: Shakespeare's characters overhear themselves. (24:13) 《开始进步啦！》 (28:05) (28:23) Tom Crewe · My Hands in My Face: Ocean Vuong's Failure (35:51) Hamlet III.i (01:02:03) Paradise Lost 10.966–1006 (01:05:33)《进步博物馆（文创周边）》 集中提及的作家：Hanya Yanagihara, Ocean Vuong, Paul Auster, Rupi Kaur, Michelle Zauner, 李翊云 其他提及的作品《降临》《你一生的故事》《莫扎特传》《普罗米修斯》《异形：契约》《亨利四世上》《寇流兰》《出租车司机》 爱发电支持 加听友群请见节目详情

为接下来内容的小小teaser 脚注： (00:58)《海客谈瀛洲（上）》 (02:45) Robert Icke, Hamlet by Shakespeare, Almeida Theatre and Harold Pinter Theatre (2017), Park Avenue Armory (2022) (04:45) “No, this my hand will rather the multitudinous seas incarnadine, making the green one red.” (Macbeth II.ii) (06:26) 天生万物以养人 人无一物以报天 爱发电支持 加听友群请见节目详情