残言片语Disabled Talks

本期节目文字稿 【聊了什么 The What】 七月是“残障骄傲月”（Disability Pride Month）。在这个源于西方的概念里，有人找到了破除羞耻感的解药，也有人看到了它的阶层局限与视觉中心主义的盲区。本期节目，仁慈和八如邀请到了听众们超级喜欢的大程子和孔铭，从中文语境下的“骄傲与自豪”辨析，聊到公共游行的包容性反思，再到个人努力与系统变革的拉扯。如果生活已经很难了，我们到底在"骄傲"什么？“骄傲”是一种特权，还是一种重新定义自我的力量？我们欢迎你加入这场关于身体、身份认同与社会系统的坦诚对话。 July is Disability Pride Month. Born out of a Western context, this concept has become, for some, an antidote to internalized shame — while for others, it exposes real blind spots around class privilege and visually centric culture. In this episode, Renci and Baru are joined by two guests our listeners love — Da Cheng Zi and Kong Ming — for a conversation that moves from unpacking "pride" versus "self respect" in the Chinese language, to reflections on how inclusive (or not) public parades really are, to the tension between individual effort and systemic change. If life is already hard enough, what exactly are we being "proud" of? Is pride a privilege, or a way of redefining ourselves on our own terms? Join us for this honest conversation about the body, identity, and the systems we live within. 【本期嘉宾 This episode's guests】 大程子：轮椅使用者，UBC硕士在读，自媒体创作者。 孔铭：盲人，导盲犬使用者，音乐家 仁慈：假肢使用者，残障研究者，过气网红 八如：INFJ听人，艺术家，美国聋校教师 Da Cheng Zi: Wheelchair user, M.A. student at the University of British Columbia, and disability content creator. Kong Ming: Blind musician, guide dog handler, and Ph.D. student. Mercy: Prosthetic user, disability studies researcher, and "former internet influencer." Baru: INFJ, hearing ally, artist, and Teacher of the Deaf and Hard of Hearing 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:00:00 我们到底在为什么而骄傲？ * 00:06:35 "残障骄傲"是不是美国人的概念？ * 00:11:20 从羞耻到坦然：环境真的会改变一个人 * 00:18:20 连残障游行，也可能排斥残障者？ * 00:24:45 为什么轮椅花车让大程子哭了？ * 00:29:45 Pride，到底该翻译成"骄傲"还是"自豪"？ * 00:34:50 我不是为残障骄傲，而是为活下来骄傲。 * 00:46:00 "残障骄傲"会不会也是一种特权？ * 00:53:30 一个老师的一句话，可能改变孩子的一生。 * 01:03:30 当我们谈个人努力时，别忘了系统责任。 * 00:00:00 What are we actually proud of? * 00:06:35 Is "Disability Pride" an American concept? * 00:11:20 From shame to self-acceptance: Can environment change a person? * 00:18:20 Can a Disability Pride parade exclude disabled people? * 00:24:45 Why did a wheelchair parade make Dachengzi cry? * 00:29:45 Should Pride be translated as pride or self-respect in Chinese? * 00:34:50 I'm not proud of my disability. I'm proud that I survived. * 00:46:00 Is "Disability Pride" also a form of privilege? * 00:53:30 How one teacher's words can change a child's life. * 01:03:30 When we celebrate personal resilience, let's not forget systemic responsibility. 【一起来读书吧 Bookclub】 《残言片语》的姐妹播客《疲惫娇娃》最近会举办一个在纽约的读书会活动，感兴趣的朋友欢迎报名参加！ 《台湾漫游录》线下读书会： 8月9日，我们会在纽约中文独立书店Accent Sisters举办《台湾漫游录》线下读书会。故事讲述了1938年日本统治台湾时期，一位年轻的日本女性小说家来到岛上，希望能一路吃穿台湾，在这个过程中她爱上了自己的女性翻译，但却苦于难以克服殖民者与被殖民者之间的鸿沟。这本书今年斩获了国际布克奖，是首部获得这部奖项的华语原著作品。 * 读书会链接：https://luma.com/yayseynm 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 残言片语是一档用残障视角看主流问题的中文播客。残障是人类无法逃避的脆弱性问题，我们致力于在日常生活和社会热点中搜寻被忽视的残障视角，期待和观众一起挑战刻板印象，打击健全中心主义（Ableism），从而真诚地感知、理解、创造自己与世界。 “Disabled Talks” is a Chinese podcast that explores mainstream issues through a disability lens, recognizing disability as an unavoidable aspect of human vulnerability often overlooked in mainstream discussions. Our mission is to uncover overlooked disability perspectives in everyday life and current events, challenge stereotypes, combat ableism alongside our audience, and foster genuine ways to perceive, understand, and shape ourselves and the world. Join us in reimagining societal narratives through the vital prism of disability experience. 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： * 海外用户：patreon.com/disabledtalks * 海内用户：afdian.com/a/disabledtalks * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: patreon.com/disabledtalks * Those in China: afdian.com/a/disabledtalks * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected]

【一起来读书吧 Bookclub】 我们最近会举办两个读书会活动！ 《台湾漫游录》线下读书会： 8月9日，我们会在纽约中文独立书店Accent Sisters举办《台湾漫游录》线下读书会。故事讲述了1938年日本统治台湾时期，一位年轻的日本女性小说家来到岛上，希望能一路吃穿台湾，在这个过程中她爱上了自己的女性翻译，但却苦于难以克服殖民者与被殖民者之间的鸿沟。这本书今年斩获了国际布克奖，是首部获得这部奖项的华语原著作品。 * 读书会链接：https://luma.com/yayseynm Apple in China 线上读书会： 7月24日，我们想和大家一起线上共读Patrick McGee 的热销作品 Apple in China。这本书细致讲述了苹果如何在中国建立起现代史上最复杂、最高效的制造与供应链体系之一，也讲述了中国如何成为世界上最有价值公司的关键支柱。作者 Patrick McGee 将在活动最后 30 分钟加入我们，回答大家的问题；问答部分使用英文。 * 读书会链接：https://luma.com/buwyzrkk We have two book club events coming up soon! "Taiwan Travelogue" In-Person Book Club: On August 9th, we'll be hosting an in-person book club for Taiwan Travelogue at Accent Sisters, a Chinese-language independent bookstore in New York. The story follows a young Japanese novelist who travels to Taiwan during the Japanese colonial period in 1938, hoping to eat and dress her way across the island. Along the way, she falls in love with her female translator, but struggles to overcome the gulf between colonizer and colonized. The book won this year's International Booker Prize, making it the first Chinese-language original work to receive the award. * Book club link: https://luma.com/yayseynm On July 24th, we’ll be reading Patrick McGee’s bestselling book Apple in China together online. The book offers a detailed account of how Apple built one of the most complex and efficient manufacturing and supply chain systems in modern history in China. It also tells the story of how China became a crucial pillar of the world’s most valuable company. Author Patrick McGee will join us for the final 30 minutes of the event to answer questions. The Q&A session will be conducted in English. * Book club link: https://luma.com/buwyzrkk 【聊了什么The What】 这是一场线下录制内容！ 最近，小杨参加了Same Room纽约播客节，和友台新新人类的主播采薇、残言片语的主播Mercy和喜剧播客唠点扭腰磕的主播Rachel以匮乏时代的流行文化为主题，聊了一期2026流行文化小盘点。 本来有大纲来着，但是四个女的全部失控。录制过程十分快乐，希望你也能听得开心！ This is an in-person recorded episode! Xiao Yang recently attended the Same Room New York Podcast Festival and sat down with hosts from three sister podcasts — Cai Wei from "New New Humans," Mercy from "Fragments of Remaining Words" (残言片语), and Rachel from the comedy podcast "Nagging Points, Twisting Waists" (唠点扭腰磕) — for a conversation about pop culture in a 2026 vibecession. We did have an agenda but that went out of the window - but we had fun, and hope you do too. 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:00 - 开场：7月及8月线上线下读书会报名指南 * 01:21 - 播客节现场：四位女性主播的聚首 * 05:30 - 细聊郑智化轮椅风波：为什么我们难以讨论少数群体的权利 * 11:29 - TradWife 与利己主义：解析当代女性面对经济下行的心理补偿 * 18:22 - 文化口红指数：为什么网络上教人“拿结果”的博主大行其道 * 29:00 - 记者 vs 博主：主流媒体的娱乐化趋势与事实查证的消失 * 38:45 - 寻找真相的困境：在信息爆炸中感到匮乏的希望 * 41:25 - 迪拜巧克力走红背后：从视觉与听觉冲击到味觉的割裂 * 46:09 - 茉莉奶白商战纪实：中国速度与抽象美学在曼哈顿的结合 * 60:22 - 争议性讨论：关于网红“夏美”与性工作者的可见度困境 * 67:11 - 拒绝碎片化：如何通过“笨手机”和无聊感重获个人Voice重新注意力对抗无聊 * 00:00 – Intro: sign-up guide for July and August online/offline book club sessions * 01:21 – At the podcast festival: four female hosts come together * 05:30 – A close look at the Zheng Zhihua wheelchair controversy: why it's so hard to discuss minority rights * 11:29 – Tradwives and self-interest: unpacking the psychological compensation contemporary women seek amid economic downturn * 18:22 – The "cultural lipstick index": why influencers teaching people to "get results" are thriving online * 29:00 – Journalists vs. influencers: mainstream media's drift toward entertainment and the disappearance of fact-checking * 38:45 – The struggle to find truth: feeling a scarcity of hope amid an explosion of information * 41:25 – Behind the Dubai chocolate craze: from visual and auditory impact to a disconnect in taste * 46:09 – A true account of the Molly Tea (茉莉奶白) price war: Chinese speed and abstract aesthetics colliding in Manhattan * 60:22 – A controversial discussion: influencer "Xia Mei" (夏美) and the visibility struggles of sex workers * 67:11 – Rejecting fragmentation: reclaiming personal voice and attention through "dumbphones" and embracing boredom 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

本期节目文字稿 【聊了什么 The What】 你可能看过手语，但未必看过真正的手语剧场。很多人以为，手语只是给聋人"翻译"用的。但事实上，它也可以是一种完整的艺术语言。甚至，一部经典戏剧，因为加入手语，能够拥有完全不同的生命力。这一期《残言片语》，八如邀请长期研究聋人文化与表演艺术的静静，一起聊聊一个很少被讨论，却足以颠覆我们对戏剧和语言想象的话题: 手语剧场。我们从纽约实地探访美国聋人剧团聊起，走进美国国家聋人剧院的发展历程，也走进美国西部聋人剧院（Deaf West Theatre）的创新实践；从百老汇手语音乐剧，到国内《纸鹤》《鸟的故事》等作品，一起看看手语如何成为一种真正的艺术表达，而不仅仅是无障碍。 如果你对手语、戏剧、残障文化、教育、无障碍设计感兴趣，或者只是想看看这个世界还有哪些不同的表达方式，希望这一期能带给你一些新的启发。因为有时候，真正改变我们的，并不是一种新的语言，而是一种新的观看方式。 You may have seen sign language before, but you probably haven't seen true sign language theatre. Many people assume sign language is only used to "interpret" for Deaf people. In fact, it can be a complete artistic language. Once sign language is woven into the classic play, it can take on an entirely different life. In this episode of Disabled Talks (残言片语), Baru invites Jingjing, a long-time researcher of Deaf culture and performing arts, to discuss a topic rarely talked about yet capable of overturning our assumptions about theatre and language: sign language theatre. We start with a visit to a Deaf theatre company in New York, trace the rise and development of the National Theatre of the Deaf, and look at the innovative practices of Deaf West Theatre. From Broadway sign language musicals to domestic works like Paper Crane and The Story of the Bird, we explore how sign language can become a genuine form of artistic expression, not just a matter of accessibility. If you're interested in sign language, theatre, disability culture, education, or accessible design — or simply curious about other ways of expressing the world- we hope this episode offers some new inspiration. Because sometimes, what truly changes us isn't a new language, but a new way of seeing. 【本期嘉宾 This episode's guests】 * 静静：表演研究学者，长期关注聋人文化、手语剧场与公共艺术教育。 * 八如：INFJ聋校老师，无障碍艺术倡导 * Jingjing: Performance studies scholar with a long-standing focus on Deaf culture, sign language theatre, and public arts education. * Baru: an INFJ Teacher of the Deaf; Advocate for accessible art. 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:10 节目开场｜为什么想聊手语剧场？ * 03:05 什么是手语剧场？它和聋人剧场有什么区别？ * 08:42 美国国家聋人剧院的兴衰：我们在纽约看到的最新现状 * 12:31 Deaf West Theatre：一种更灵活、更可持续的聋人剧团模式 * 16:20 中国的手语剧场发展：《纸鹤》《鸟的故事》等实践 * 20:54 聋人剧场、身份认同与手语作为艺术语言 * 24:15 百老汇手语音乐剧：无障碍如何成为艺术的一部分 * 30:29 城乡教育差距、资源不平等与聋人文化传播 * 36:12 为什么一定要去加劳德特大学（Gallaudet University）？ * 46:17 艺术、无障碍与商业化：聋人创作如何才能真正持续？ * 00:10 Opening | Why talk about sign language theatre? * 03:05 What is sign language theatre? How does it differ from Deaf theatre? * 08:42 The rise and fall of the National Theatre of the Deaf: the latest state of things, as we saw it in New York * 12:31 Deaf West Theatre: a more flexible, more sustainable model for Deaf theatre companies * 16:20 The development of sign language theatre in China: works like Paper Crane and The Story of the Bird * 20:54 Deaf theatre, identity, and sign language as an artistic language * 24:15 Broadway sign language musicals: how accessibility becomes part of the art * 30:29 The urban-rural education gap, unequal resources, and the spread of Deaf culture * 36:12 Why go to Gallaudet University? * 46:17 Art, accessibility, and commercialization: how can Deaf creative work truly be sustained? 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 残言片语是一档用残障视角看主流问题的中文播客。残障是人类无法逃避的脆弱性问题，我们致力于在日常生活和社会热点中搜寻被忽视的残障视角，期待和观众一起挑战刻板印象，打击健全中心主义（Ableism），从而真诚地感知、理解、创造自己与世界。 “Disabled Talks” is a Chinese podcast that explores mainstream issues through a disability lens, recognizing disability as an unavoidable aspect of human vulnerability often overlooked in mainstream discussions. Our mission is to uncover overlooked disability perspectives in everyday life and current events, challenge stereotypes, combat ableism alongside our audience, and foster genuine ways to perceive, understand, and shape ourselves and the world. Join us in reimagining societal narratives through the vital prism of disability experience. 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： * 海外用户：patreon.com/disabledtalks * 海内用户：afdian.com/a/disabledtalks * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: patreon.com/disabledtalks * Those in China: afdian.com/a/disabledtalks * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected]

本期节目文字稿 【聊了什么 The What】 5月17日全国助残日前夕，一则“百万粉丝盲人博主在盲道被电动车撞倒”的视频冲上热搜。随后，北京警方通报该事件系摆拍，涉事人员被采取刑事强制措施。舆论迅速反转。这一期，我们邀请了视障朋友孔铭，小提琴手和预备博士，一起聊聊“盲兔事件”背后的残障网红经济、公众对残障者的想象，以及互联网时代真实表达的困境。为什么公众总在怀疑盲人是不是“真盲”？当残障者成为流量商品后，真实还重要吗？而真正的问题，究竟是摆拍，还是大众从未真正理解残障者的生活？ On the eve of National Disability Day, a video exploded across Chinese social media: a blind influencer with millions of followers appeared to be knocked down by an e-scooter while walking on a tactile paving path. Soon after, Beijing police announced the incident had been staged. The people involved were criminally charged. Public opinion flipped almost overnight. In this episode, we’re joined by Kong Ming, a visually impaired violinist and soon-to-be PhD student, to unpack the deeper issues underneath the controversy: the rise of disability influencers, the public’s imagination of what disability is supposed to look like, and the impossible tension of trying to present an “authentic” disabled life online. Why are disabled people constantly asked to prove they’re “disabled enough”? When disability becomes a commodity, can authenticity still exist? And is the real issue the staged video itself, or the fact that so many people still don’t understand what it actually means to live with a disability? 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:00:00｜盲兔事件始末：从热搜到“摆拍”反转 * 00:05:27｜“一颗老鼠屎坏了一锅粥”：残障群体的愤怒与失望 * 00:10:23｜真实存在的危险：视障者在城市中的出行困境 * 00:20:43｜当平台开始怀疑残障者：限流、封杀与“真实性” * 00:29:47｜MCN、流量与残障网红工业化 * 00:34:33｜盲人并不只有一种：关于视力障碍的重要科普 * 00:44:00｜摆拍为什么会引发如此巨大的舆论反噬 * 00:53:17｜金钱、理想与“残障身份”：我们到底想成为谁？ * 00:00:00 | The controversy: From Viral Sensation to “Staged” Scandal * 00:05:27 | Anger and Disappointment Within the Disability Community * 00:10:23 | The Danger Is Real: Challenges Faced by Blind and Visually Impaired People in Cities * 00:20:43 | When Platforms Start Distrusting Disabled Creators: Shadowbanning, Deplatforming, and the Question of “Authenticity.” * 00:29:47 | MCNs, Algorithms, and the Industrialization of Disability Influencers * 00:34:33 | Blindness Is Not One Thing: Essential Context on Visual Impairment * 00:44:00 | Why the Staged Video Triggered Such an Intense Public Backlash * 00:53:17 | Money, Ideals, and Disability Identity: Who Are We Actually Trying to Become? 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 残言片语是一档用残障视角看主流问题的中文播客。残障是人类无法逃避的脆弱性问题，我们致力于在日常生活和社会热点中搜寻被忽视的残障视角，期待和观众一起挑战刻板印象，打击健全中心主义（Ableism），从而真诚地感知、理解、创造自己与世界。 “Disabled Talks” is a Chinese podcast that explores mainstream issues through a disability lens, recognizing disability as an unavoidable aspect of human vulnerability often overlooked in mainstream discussions. Our mission is to uncover overlooked disability perspectives in everyday life and current events, challenge stereotypes, combat ableism alongside our audience, and foster genuine ways to perceive, understand, and shape ourselves and the world. Join us in reimagining societal narratives through the vital prism of disability experience. * 仁慈：假肢使用者，残障研究者，过气网红。 * 八如：INFJ听人，艺术家兼美国聋校教师。 * 孔铭：盲人，导盲犬使用者，音乐家。 * Renci: Prosthetic user, disability studies researcher, former influencer * Baru: Hearing artist, Teacher of the Deaf and Hard of Hearing, INFJ personality. * Kong Ming: Blind, guide dog user, musician 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： * 海外用户：patreon.com/disabledtalks * 海内用户：afdian.com/a/disabledtalks * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: patreon.com/disabledtalks * Those in China: afdian.com/a/disabledtalks * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected]