【聊了什么The What】 这个夏天，我们无数次的跟人解释：Netflix的Kpop猎魔女团虽然设定听起来很扯，但真的是好看的。顶流女团的真实身份是猎魔人，而她们的竞争对手（非常工具人的）男团则是一群真正的恶魔，用歌声和粉丝量争夺人类灵魂。我们从这部作品聊开去，探讨它如何超越了新时代的迪士尼公主叙事，创造了一个有工作的、更具代入感的当代女性童年幻想的寄托：和最好的朋友住在一起，拥有穿不完的漂亮衣服，人生最大的困难是和朋友的互相不理解。在一定程度上，对小朋友可能有点太幼稚，但对疲惫的我们正中要害。同时我们也回顾了过去十年 K-Pop 的全球化，从 BTS 在疫情期间的爆红到 Blackpink 登上 Coachella 主舞台；好像体感上今年夏天真的不一样，他们说的“韩流闯美”或许真的来了？ This summer, we found ourselves repeatedly explaining to people: like, yes, Netflix’s K-pop Demon Hunters sounds ridiculous on paper, you might even feel ridiculous watching the first 20 minutes — but it’s actually really good. The setup? A top girl group is secretly made up of demon hunters, while their rivals—the boy band—are literal demons battling for human souls through their music and fandom numbers. We used this show as a jumping-off point to explore how it goes beyond the new-generation Disney princess narrative to create a more relatable modern female fantasy—one where you live with your best friends, have endless fabulous outfits, and your biggest challenge in life is misunderstandings between friends. It might feel childish to some, especially for kids, but for us—burned out adults—it hit the emotional sweet spot. We also looked back on a decade of K-pop global expansion, from BTS’s meteoric rise during the pandemic to Blackpink headlining Coachella. This summer feels different. Maybe the “Korean Wave” going global is actually happening? 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:39 - 奇幻首尔里用歌声封印恶魔的猎魔女团HUNTRIX。 * 10:28 - 立体的女性友谊和工具人男团 * 18:35 - K-pop产业的理想化呈现 * 21:26 - 从《降世神通》到现在亚裔创作者主体性的增强 * 27:14 - 保护我们的童年幻想和天经地义的女性友谊 * 42:34 - Kpop在欧美市场主流化了吗？ * 00:39 - HUNTRIX: A demon-hunting girl group sealing demons with songs in a fantastical Seoul * 10:28 - Deep female friendships vs. the “utility tool” boy band * 18:35 - The idealized portrayal of the K-pop industry * 21:26 - From Avatar: The Last Airbender to the growing agency of Asian creators * 27:14 - Protecting our childhood fantasies and the naturalness of female friendship * 42:34 - Has K-pop gone mainstream in Western markets? 【拓展链接 The Links】 58 “BTS之父”套现4000亿：韩娱教父的资本骗局遭政治狙击 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 HBO 新片Mountainhead是《继承之战》编剧 Jesse Armstrong 的导演初作。这一次，他把镜头从东海岸的传媒财阀转向了西海岸的科技巨头。 四位科技界巨头和曾经的好友在犹他州的豪华山庄度周末，外面的世界却因一款 AI 生成工具制造的政治假新闻陷入混乱。他们坐在山顶的别墅中，讨论着权力、技术与人类未来，以及如何延长自己的生命，甚至抵御死亡，上传意识。节目中，我们谈到了科技精英的傲慢与脆弱、有效加速主义（e/acc）在硅谷的兴起、从 All In Podcast 到特朗普就职典礼的科技圈政治野心，以及为什么现实比电影还科幻，却让创作者越来越难以讲述。从HBO关于科技的剧集大火的Silicon Valley到这部同样关于讲述科技圈内部故事的Mountainhead只有短短几年过去了。而太多改变已经发生。 Mountainhead, HBO’s new film, marks the directorial debut of Succession writer Jesse Armstrong. This time, he shifts the camera from East Coast media dynasties to West Coast tech titans. The story follows four former friends and tech moguls spending a weekend at a luxury mountain estate in Utah, while the outside world descends into chaos—triggered by political disinformation generated by an AI tool they helped create. From the comfort of their hilltop villa, they debate power, technology, the future of humanity, and how to prolong their own lives—even resisting death by uploading their consciousness. In this episode, we talk about the arrogance and fragility of tech elites, the rise of Effective Accelerationism (e/acc) in Silicon Valley, the political ambitions of the tech world—from the All-In Podcast to Trump’s inauguration—and why reality has become more sci-fi than fiction, making it harder than ever for creators to tell these stories. Only a few years separate HBO’s Silicon Valley and Mountainhead, but in that short span, the world—and tech—has changed in ways no one could have scripted. 【时间轴 The When】 * 03:39 我们最喜欢的编剧把我们的推特故事线拍成电影了 * 08:15 四位主角是如何“缝合”现实中的硅谷大佬们？ * 15:56 硅谷意识形态的转变：从商业逻辑到宗教信仰 * 32:29 科技大佬的权力渴望与“大教堂”、“创始人主权”、“Luxury Belief” * 42:30 渴望权力，却又想逃避责任的Tech Bro文化 * 54:29 警惕权力的新外衣与我们应有的警惕 * 03:39 Our favorite screenwriter turns our Twitter storylines into a movie * 08:15 How the four protagonists are “stitched together” from real-life Silicon Valley moguls * 15:56 The ideological shift in Silicon Valley: from business logic to religious belief * 32:29 Tech elites’ thirst for power: “The Cathedral,” “Founder Sovereignty,” and “Luxury Beliefs” * 42:30 The Tech Bro dilemma—craving power while dodging responsibility * 54:29 The new disguise of power and why we must remain vigilant 【拓展链接 The Links】 * [Peter Thiel被问到“你希望人类继续持续下去对吧？”的迟疑爆红视频] * 小华提到的漫画：“参议院的老板们”——1889 [image.png] 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 Apple TV+ 的新剧The Studio《片场风云》是一个意想不到的亮点。它是Seth Rogen创作的剧集，是一部用讽刺和结构解构整个娱乐工业的黑色喜剧。这个剧也是近年以来我们看过的最生动、最好笑、最让人尴尬、最不怕自黑的剧集。它还精准还原了电影内容行业的虚荣和危机和在这样畸形结构中的人如何自处，以及让我们去思考当下的影视工业的在科技行业和流媒体的冲击下，未来会是怎样。另外来自小蓝的抱歉：我的录制环境特别差，对不起大家座机音质！ Apple TV+'s new show The Studio is an unexpected highlight. It's a Seth Rogen-created show, a dark comedy that deconstructs the entire entertainment industry with satire and structure. The show is also one of the most vivid, funny, cringe-inducing, and unafraid of self-hatred episodes we've seen in recent years. It also accurately restores the vanity and crisis of the movie content industry and how people in such a monstrous structure can live with themselves, as well as making us think about what the future of the current movie and television industry's will look like in light of the tech industry and streaming media. 【时间轴 The When】 03:59 我们为什么喜欢《片场风云》Why are we obsessed with the studio 07:14 展开说说 The Oner（第二集2）Let’s dive into the Oner (ep 2) 14:52 我们对Matt Remick怎么看? Is the studio head a hapless hero? Diving into Matt Remick’s character 17:20 千禧一代掌权成为草台班子本台的困境 When the millennial worker becomes an executive 23:42 《片场风云》的女配角们 The fantastic supporting ensemble of the Studio 35:52 Kool-aid Movie和文化IP The Kool-aid Movie and what it says about IP movies 39:50 Kool-aid Movie 选角与电影中的政治正确 how to balance ‘wokeness’ in casting 46:24 金球奖 The Golden Globes episode 49:54 危及好莱坞存在的才是真正的反派 Who’s the real villain threatening the film industry? 52:52 好莱坞何去何从？Where does Hollywood go from here? 【拓展链接 The Links】 纽约客讲《芭比》的文章 “The Studio” Pokes Fun at Hollywood’s Existential Struggle 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 在一个充满官僚主义的银河帝国中，革命究竟意味着什么？当理想主义者遭遇现实的残酷，"正义"与"邪恶"的界限是否真的那么清晰？从Luthen的革命理念到Dedra的极权思维，剧集以令人不安的方式探讨了权力、反抗与人性的本质。 革命的本质是什么？它需要什么样的代价和牺牲？从卢森的马基雅维利式的组织者形象，到帝国完美官僚的非人性，再到太空法国的群众运动，《安多》探讨了反抗与压迫、个人与集体、理想与现实之间的复杂关系。 Andor Season 2 is a unique work in the Star Wars universe that features no lightsabers, Force powers, or chosen ones, instead focusing on marginalized characters and the imperial bureaucracy. The series tells the story of how the Empire was overthrown, showcasing the desperation of ordinary people, cracks within the Empire, and the real cost of rebellion. As "a prequel to a prequel" of the original Star Wars trilogy, Andor Season 2 ends by seamlessly transitioning into the film Rogue One, revealing these characters' ultimate fates. The show explores several thought-provoking themes: Is the nature of revolution romantic idealism or bloody reality? How does the Empire's propaganda machine justify colonization and genocide through stereotypes and inciting hatred? How do characters like Luther and Dedra represent different facets of revolution and oppression? Perhaps most importantly, in an age of rampant social media where everyone claims to possess "the truth," how can we discern the reality of history? 【时间轴 The When】 3:59 我们为什么喜欢《片场风云》Why are we obsessed with the studio 7:14 展开说说 The Oner（第二集2）Let’s dive into the Oner (ep 2) 14:52 我们对Matt Remick怎么看? Is the studio head a hapless hero? Diving into Matt Remick’s character 17:20 千禧一代掌权成为草台班子本台的困境 When the millennial worker becomes an executive 23:42 《片场风云》的女配角们 The fantastic supporting ensemble of the Studio 35:52 Kool-aid Movie和文化IP The Kool-aid Movie and what it says about IP movies 39:50 Kool-aid Movie 选角与电影中的政治正确 how to balance ‘wokeness’ in casting 46:24 金球奖 The Golden Globes episode 49:54 危及好莱坞存在的才是真正的反派 Who’s the real villain threatening the film industry? 52:52 好莱坞何去何从？Where does Hollywood go from here? 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助