新新人类 Pixel Perfect

【聊了什么 The What】 洋抖难民入住小红书一年之后，美国年轻人又整上新活，想直接变成中国人了？从喝热水、学中文，到穿唐装、追中国短剧，越来越多美国年轻人开始说自己正处在 “a very Chinese time of my life”。这个被称作Chinamaxxing的网络趋势，是文化认同的转变，还是一场抽象时代的玩梗狂欢？在这期播客里，我们拆解了这个趋势的来源和传播，以及它背后的反叛情绪。 当中国从被高度符号化的他者，变成好玩、无厘头、被重新想象的文化标签，这种变化意味着什么？作为中国人，看着大家突然想成为我们，又是一种怎样复杂的感受？和我们一起，聊聊互联网时代的中国高光时刻。 A year after the so-called “TikTok refugees” moved into Xiaohongshu, American internet culture has found a new twist — this time, young Americans want to “become Chinese.” From drinking hot water and learning Mandarin on Duolingo to wearing the Adidas Tang jackets and binge-watching Chinese dramas, more and more are saying they are living through “a very Chinese time of my life.” This online trend, known as Chinamaxxing, raises a question: is this a genuine shift in cultural identity, or just another wave of absurdist internet play? In this episode, we unpack where the trend came from, how it spread, and the rebellious energy behind it. As China shifts from a highly politicized “other” to something playful, ironic, and newly reimagined online, what does that change really mean? And as Chinese people, how do we feel watching others suddenly want to “become us”? Proud, annoyed, amused — or something more complicated? Join us as we explore this internet-age Chinese high-glow moment. 【时间轴 The When】 * 03:18 什么是China Maxxing？ * 06:47 喝热水、穿阿迪达斯“Tang”，就是中国人吗？ * 10:22 ABC vs白人网友玩梗，两种变中国逻辑 * 18:31 从雪花飘飘到Tina，误解与再创作中出圈的中国meme * 23:12 反叛父辈叙事，美国年轻人的公开声明 * 27:48 线上文化与现实认知的分野 * 36:44 奶茶、Temu、DeepSeek：中国元素已经渗透日常生活 * 41:03 文化输出还是文化扁平化？ * 45:27 作为中国人，我们的感受是骄傲、不爽还是荒谬？ * 49:58 当梗进入主流语境之后会发生什么？、 * 03:18 What’s Chinamaxxing? * 06:47 Does Drinking Hot Water and Wearing Adidas Jackets Make You Chinese? * 10:22 ABCs vs. Young Americans: Two Different Logics of “Becoming Chinese” * 18:31 From Xue Hua Piao Piao to Tina: How Chinese Memes Go Viral Through Misinterpretation and Remix * 23:12 Rebellion Against the Parent Generation by Young Americans * 27:48 The Divide Between Internet Culture and Real-World Perception * 36:44 Boba, Temu, DeepSeek: Chinese Elements in Everyday American Life * 41:03 Cultural Influence or Cultural Flattening? * 45:27 As Chinese, Do We Feel Proud, Annoyed, or Amused? * 49:58 What Happens When the Meme Enters the Mainstream? 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 * 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 * 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 * 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 【拓展链接 The Links】 WIRED: Why Everyone Is Suddenly in a ‘Very Chinese Time’ in Their Lives 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： * 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl * 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl * Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected]

【重要的事放在前面说】 2026 年，「新新人类」希望能和大家展开更多深度交流。除了播客，我们也在筹备一些线上或者线下的活动。 如果你感兴趣参与我们的活动，请填写这份问卷留下您的邮箱，方便我们活动组织起来之后联系到您！ 【聊了什么 The What】 下滑，下滑，咦，这个视频有点意思，但好像又有点不对头，难道是AI？？ 随着人工智能生成视频技术的日新月异，新新人类的主播们每天都浪费了大量刷手机的时间用于分辨某个视频是不是AI生成的。不得不承认，从几年前生成的六根指头的手和鬼画符一般的文字，到现在以假乱真的后院蹦床兔兔和偷快递监控，AI视频的质量在不断提升，我们对它的认识也不得不更新换代。 这一期节目我们请来了Coco来做嘉宾，曾经在谷歌工作的她现在是AI视频生成平台和社区OpenArt的CEO。我们既聊了AI技术本身的飞速发展，也聊了作为社交媒体用户的我们如何看待当下遍布全网的AI视频。Coco说，她觉得AI视频生成的技术会成为让任何人都可以当网红的平权工具，那如果拍视频和剪视频的技术不再是刚需，什么才会是下一代的头部网红的核心竞争力？ Scroll, scroll…huh, this video is kind of interesting, but something feels off…Is it AI?? As AI-generated video technology advances, the hosts of Pixel Perfect also have wasted huge amounts of time every day just trying to figure out whether a video we saw on social media was made by AI. Like it or not, we have to admit: from the six-fingered hands and illegible text of a few years ago to today’s deceptively realistic videos of backyard trampoline bunnies and package-thief security-cam clips, AI video quality keeps improving, and our opinion on it has to keep updating too. In this episode, we invited Coco to join us as a guest. After working at Google, she’s now the CEO of OpenArt, an AI video-generation platform and community. We talked about the rapid evolution of the tech itself, and also about how we—as social media users—make sense of AI videos that are now ubiquitous. Coco said she believes AI video generation will become an empowering tool that lets anyone become an internet celebrity. So if filming and editing are no longer necessary skills, what will be the core competitive edge of the next generation of top-tier creators? 【时间轴 The When】 * 01:30 - OpenArt CEO Coco介绍过去三年图片和视频AI的技术迭代 * 03:49 - 从生成六根手指的DALL-E到百花齐放的中美AI工具 * 15:03 - 创作平权：AI如何赋予普通人讲故事的能力 * 24:08 - 为什么模糊的监控视角更容易让AI视频以假乱真 * 31:12 - OpenArt工作流：故事板、Agent与长叙事生成 * 34:47 - 视频生成的下一个里程碑是世界模型（World Model）吗？ * 42:01 - 未来创作者的核心竞争力是网感还是审美？ * 51:09 - 外国山海经：一个AI原生的网络热梗 * 58:41 - 版权保护、AI标签标注与未来的内容生态 * 01:30 - Coco, OpenArt’s CEO, introduces the tech evolution of AI videos * 03:49 - From DALL-E to a thousand American and Chinese AI video tools * 15:03 - Empowering everyone to become video creators * 24:08 - Why it’s so damn hard to tell a security camera video is AI-generated * 31:12 - How OpenArt works: storyboards, AI agents, and long narratives * 34:47 - World Model is the next milestone of video generation * 42:01 - How to excel as a content creator in the future * 51:09 - Italian Brainrot: an AI-native meme * 58:41 - Copyrights, AI content labeling, and the future of content creation 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 * 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 * 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 * 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 【拓展链接 The Links】 * OpenArt的官网 * How I learned to stop worrying and love AI slop * OpenAI’s new social app is filled with terrifying Sam Altman deepfakes 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： * 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl * 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl * Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected]

【聊了什么 The What】 从扫腿舞到“宝宝上车啦”，从《万物生》到《溯》，最近只要刷过短视频，基本都被这几首团播神曲洗脑过。和传统的单人直播不一样，团播把帅哥美女放在同一个画面里，一起跳舞、互动、PK，更像一档随时在直播的偶像综艺。 从这期节目开始，我们想要和大家多聊聊我们三个共同关注到的互联网现象。第一次尝试，就从团播为什么这么火聊起。主播怎么被训练和安排，观众为什么愿意持续打赏，平台规则又在其中起到了什么作用？我们也会聊到团播和日韩偶像选秀之间的相似之处，以及“养成系”粉丝关系在直播间里是怎么被放大的。通过团播，或许我们能看到的是，在经济下行、注意力经济当道的大背景下，亲密感和陪伴感是否被赋予了新的意义。 From leg-sweep dances to catchphrases like “Baby, hop on,” and from All Things Grow to Backflow (N.B. all of these are too Chinese to translate), anyone who’s scrolled through short-video apps lately has likely had these group-streaming hits stuck in their head. Unlike traditional solo livestreams, group streaming features multiple attractive hosts in the same frame—dancing together, interacting, and competing in real-time—feeling more like an idol variety show that never goes off air. With this episode, we’re starting a new series where the three of us talk through internet phenomena we’ve all been noticing. For our first try, we’re diving into why group streaming has taken off so quickly. We look at how hosts are trained and managed, why viewers keep tipping and voting, and how platform rules shape these behaviors. We also unpack the similarities between group streaming and Japanese and Korean idol survival shows, and how “idol-training” style fan relationships are amplified inside livestreams. Through the lens of group streaming, we explore how intimacy and companionship are being redefined in an era of economic pressure and attention-driven platforms. 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:02:31 团播初体验？从奇观化视角看待新兴网络文化 * 00:07:53 团播的吸引力源泉：表演美学与竞争关系 * 00:13:22 从元气萌妹到性感欲姐，满足受众投射需求 * 00:16:47 看不见的场控：制作人角色与权力分配的奇妙结构 * 00:19:00 从选秀到团播：审美降级还是交互升级？ * 00:26:30 团播与偶像产业的连接：日韩偶像大不同 * 00:31:57 团播如何撕去偶像养成的最后一层遮羞布 * 00:39:04 团播的软色情属性与“救风尘” * 00:45:32 从亚文化到主流，团播如何融入主流娱乐产业？ * 00:02:31 First time with Group Streaming: Viewing an Emerging Online Culture as Spectacle * 00:07:53 What Makes Group Streaming So Addictive: Performance Aesthetics and Built-In Competition * 00:13:22 From Cute and Bubbly to Bold and Sexy: Fulfilling Audience Fantasies and Projections * 00:16:47 The Invisible Hands Behind the Scenes: Producers, Control, and Power Dynamics * 00:19:00 From Idol Survival Shows to Group Streaming: A Step Down in Taste or an Upgrade in Interaction * 00:26:30 Group Streaming and the Idol Industry: How It Differs from K-Pop and J-Pop * 00:31:57 How Group Streaming Strips Away the Last Layer of Idol-Making Illusions * 00:39:04 The Soft-Porn Undertones of Group Streaming and the “Savior” Narrative * 00:45:32 From Subculture to the Mainstream: How Group Streaming Is Becoming Part of the Entertainment Industry 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 * 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 * 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 * 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 【拓展链接 The Links】 * 澎湃新闻：有人看团播花120万元，阿姨团爷爷团都来了，团播进入“群魔乱舞”时代 * 36氪：从「扫腿」到「上车」，团播火了几支舞 * 欠薪、擦边、违约金，困在“团播”里的年轻人 * 我在卡卡团播间嗑CP：3000万打赏一个月BE * 多个头部团解散，团播进入调整期？ 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： * 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl * 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl * Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected]

【聊了什么 The What】 大家好，我是从火人节回来的一闻，我已经蜕变了（不是。 从黑石城回来的那一天，我在新新人类群聊里说：“朋友们，不幸的消息：这大概是我这辈子过的最棒的一周。” 在诸多主流叙事中，每年八月底在美国内华达州举办的火人节（Burning Man），就是一场放任自由主义（Libertarianism）的精英狂欢。我过去也因为它和硅谷之间的精神与文化纽带，对它有过先入为主的成见。而如果你告诉去年的我，我会在沙漠里坚持八天不洗澡，我一定不会相信。但事实上，在这一周里，我放声痛哭过，也开怀大笑过。我在燃烧的熊熊烈火中，看到了让灵魂为之颤栗的景象。在狂风暴雨之间，我也感受到了人与人之间最简单、真诚和美好的联系。这一切，都彻底改变了我对火人节的印象。 但在我们聊黑石城的魔幻与灵性的同时，我们也不可避免的要提到这场起源于嬉皮士精神的活动在逐渐主流化、现代化的过程中所经历的变化。在这期播客中，我们探讨了资本主义逻辑之下“假期”的概念，与建立乌托邦所需要的经济成本。安蕤也分享了她所经历的一次位于黑山的生活实验，引发了我们对于社群建构的探讨。为什么这些精神实验总有一个截止日期？在控制变量环境下，人与人之间的善意，又是否能被带回现实世界？ Hi everyone, this is Yiwen reporting back from Burning Man. The day I returned from Black Rock City, I wrote in our Pixel Perfect group chat: “Friends, I regret to report that this may actually be the best week of my life.” In mainstream narratives, Burning Man — held every late August in Nevada’s desert — is often seen as an elitist playground for libertarianists. I used to think the same, especially because of its deep cultural and spiritual ties with Silicon Valley. And if you had told me last year that I’d spend eight days in the desert without showering, I would never have believed you. Yet over that week, I cried my eyes out, laughed until my stomach hurt, and stood before burning flames that made my soul tremble. In the middle of storms and rain, I also felt the most simple, genuine, and beautiful forms of human connection. All of this completely changed my view of Burning Man. But alongside the magic and spirituality of Black Rock City, we can’t avoid talking about how this countercultural gathering — rooted in hippie ideals — has evolved as it’s become more mainstream and modernized. In this episode, we explore the idea of “vacation” under capitalism and the economic cost of creating utopias. Anrui also shares her experience living in a temporary community during Zuzalu, which sparked our discussion on intentional community building. Why do these social experiments always have an expiration date? And in a controlled environment, can the kindness people show each other actually be carried back into the real world? 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:01:37: 来到黑石城：火人节到底是什么样的体验？ * 00:08:43: 从沙漠下暴雨到灵魂共鸣 * 00:11:36: 火人节的精神核心：十项原则 * 00:26:11: 在沙漠，消融的身份标识 * 00:33:46: 乌托邦的成本：创造纯粹社会体验所需的经济现实 * 00:36:21: 黑山、Zuzalu和临时城市 * 00:39:42: 硅谷精英如何火人节形成了特殊的连结 * 00:56:31: 为什么我们能在控制环境中体验善意，却难以带回现实生活？ * 00:01:37 — What is the Burning Man experience really like? * 00:08:43 — From desert rainstorms to spiritual resonance * 00:11:36 — The spiritual core of Burning Man: The Ten Principles * 00:26:11 — In the desert, dissolving identity markers * 00:33:46 — The cost of utopia: The economic reality behind creating a “pure” social experience * 00:36:21 — Montenegro, Zuzalu, and the rise of temporary cities * 00:39:42 — How Silicon Valley elites form unique connections at Burning Man * 00:56:31 — Why can we experience kindness in controlled environments, yet struggle to carry it back into real life? 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 * 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 * 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 * 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： * 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl * 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl * Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected]