【聊了什么The What】 立秋是万物复苏的季节，这意味着闲聊节目又来啦！ 我们在这个夏天结束、秋天开始的季节也支棱了一下，设计了一封问卷，想借这个机会了解一下大家。问卷中也搜集上来了很多大家想要问我们的问题，我们选了一些在这期节目中回答。这封问卷会作为一个信箱保持开放，每一封收回来的问卷我们都会读！如果大家对我们有什么问题和建议，都可以通过问卷丢给我们，也可以给[email protected]发邮件。 Happy pumpkin spice latte season! We like season changes, because it means we get to record our seasonal vibe check episodes. A couple of weeks ago out of a burst of productivity we shipped a survey to get to know yall better, which includes an AMA section where we collected all of your simmering questions. We had so much fun reading the responses (keep’em coming!!), and decided to break out the mailbox for an AMA episode! The survey will stay open, we read every entry religiously, so consider that a way to let us know about your questions, concerns, thoughts, anything you would like us to know. You can also email us at [email protected]. 【时间轴 The When】 * 01:20 “如果读phd的话想要读什么专业？” * 14:21 “好奇几位主播平时喜欢听什么音乐类型呀，走路或者休息的时候会听什么呢？” * 24:02 “想问问各位主播的书单” / “主播们是怎么能找到那么多好看的影视作品的？” * 50:09 “近期生活里有哪些新经验，或者新尝试，感觉如何？” * 01:06:59 “想知道每位主播最欣赏另外三位的什么？” * 01:20 "What major would you want to study if you were to pursue a Ph.D.?" * 14:21 “I'm curious about what types of music you usually like to listen to. What do you listen to when walking or resting?” * 24:02 “I want to ask about the reading lists of each host." / "How do the hosts manage to find so many good films and TV shows?” * 50:09 “What are some new experiences or trials you've had recently in life, and how do you feel about them?” * 01:06:59 “I want to know what each host most admires about the other three hosts” 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 准备这期节目的时候，我脑子里一直出现西班牙艺术家弗朗西斯科·戈雅的的一副版画——《怪物诞生于理性的梦中》。在一定程度上，奥本海默讲述的就是这样的一个故事：人类在打开潘多拉的盒子、把公式里隐藏的魔法释放到人间，却无法控制释放出来的东西。年初ChatGPT出现的时候，许多人开始担心人类是否面临着另一个“奥本海默时刻”、是否释放了另一个可能毁灭我们自己的怪物？而对另一些人来说，沉湎于科幻般的未来本身就是值得批判的。 这期节目，我们继续这场关于电影《奥本海默》的对话。在这一集中我们讨论了钱学森的一生，与奥本海默自己的故事作了平行对比，探讨了由科学开放性与国家忠诚之间的张力引发的伦理问题，并探讨了我们自己对“AI末日论”的看法。 In preparing this episode, my mind kept going back to a print by the Spanish artist Francisco Goya – The Dream of Reason Produces Monsters. Its themes resonate eerily with the moral complexities of Oppenheimer – a man haunted by the monster he dreamed into reality. When ChatGPT went live earlier this year, many people started asking – does humanity face another Oppenheimer moment? Did we unleash another monster? – and many others started to find that question itself distracting, or even dangerous. As we delve into the second installment of our conversation on Oppenheimer, this episode also shines a spotlight on Qian Xuesen's life, drawing parallels with Oppenheimer's own story. We probe the ethical issues arising from the dichotomy between scientific openness and national allegiance, and unpack the burgeoning anxiety around an so-called AI apocalypse. 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:00 钱学森和奥本海默人生的平行与交错 * 10:34 科学家身份与国族身份之间的张力 * 26:07 我们该如何讲述原子弹的故事 * 35:09 “人工智能”是下一个原子弹吗？ * 00:00 The Parallels and Intersections in the Lives of Qian Xuesen and Oppenheimer * 10:34 The Tension Between Scientific Identity and National Identity * 26:07 How Should We Narrate the Story of the Atomic Bomb? * 35:09 Are we facing another Oppenheimer moment? 【拓展链接 The Links】 * Our Oppenheimer Moment: The Creation of A.I. Weapons * Oppenheimer and After * Ordinary Notes * Copenhagen * HSS at the Movies 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 「念奴娇·昆仑」里有这样的诗词，仿佛让我们看到了平地而起的蘑菇云，和原子弹之父奥本海默面对广袤的新墨西哥州的沙漠的剪影： 横空出世，莽昆仑，阅尽人间春色。 飞起玉龙三百万，搅得周天寒彻。 夏日消溶，江河横溢，人或为鱼鳖。 千秋功罪，谁人曾与评说？ 从1945年原子弹爆炸的那一刻起，人类已经在原子弹威胁阴影之下生活了八十年；而对于它千古功罪的“评说”从未停止。这个夏天，导演克里斯托弗·诺兰为我们呈上了新的作品《奥本海默》，讲述了原子弹之父复杂和不为人知的人生，原子弹和他的创造者的故事被一起投射到了70mm的IMAX巨幕上，我们也穿越诺兰的镜头，看到了奥本海默与原子弹的纠葛——然而这部电影对于许多话题选择了缄默。 疲惫娇娃邀请来两位前物理学家——前高能理论物理学家赵智沉和前实验粒子物理学家程扬扬——参与了一场长达两小时的对话，并剪辑成上下两集呈现给大家。在第一部分中，我们反思了电影的叙事选择和视觉语言，揭示了核历史中被隐藏和被埋葬的许多角色——原住民、女性、被殖民的国家和国民、原子弹的受害者们。同时我们也从核武器的历史角度展开，探讨了他们的科学背景如何塑造他们对这一令人难忘的电影体验的独特视角。 How do you even begin to tell the story of the Atomic bomb, when humanity split the atom out of wartime desperation, and finally created the ability to destroy ourselves? For eight decades, we've lived in its looming shadow, a tool of annihilation that has redefined global geopolitics and provoked existential inquiries that span generations. It takes a filmmaker like Christopher Nolan to project it onto the grand canvas of a 70mm IMAX screen. Enter 'Oppenheimer,' this summer's epic blockbuster. To discuss the film, two former physicists - Zhao Zhichen, a former theoretical physicist, and Cheng Yangyang, an experimental particle physicist - engaged in a two-hour conversation to unpack the summer epic blockbuster Oppenheimer. In the first part, we reflect on the narrative choices and visual language of the film, uncovering many overlooked figures in nuclear history - indigenous peoples, women, colonized nations and citizens, victims of the bomb. We also explore how their backgrounds in nuclear physics inform their unique perspectives on this memorable cinematic experience. 【时间轴 The When】 * 02: 37 安利节目：属于我们社群的一档关于美国政治新闻的播客『美轮美换』上线啦！ * 03: 30 「奥本海默」第一观影印象 * 15: 00 电影采用了哪种叙事、忽视了哪些人物？ * 24: 05 电影中被抹去的人 —- 受害者，女性，原住民 * 25: 50 原子弹的解脱视角是什么？为什么标志性的“蘑菇云”这个视角有问题？ * 39: 30 如果物理学有一种旋律，这个旋律在物理学家二种听起来是什么样的？ * 46: 25 物理学家所研究的东西，无论是庞大微小还是抽象，在多大程度上影响了ta们看待世界的方式？ * 02:37 - Show highlight: Our friends' US politics podcast "美轮美换" is live! * 03:30 - First impressions of "Oppenheimer" * 15:00 - What narrative techniques does the film use, and whose stories does it overlook? Nolan's "overreach" and contradictions * 24:05 - Who is erased from the film – the victims of atomic bomb, the women, and the indigenous people * 25:50 - What is the redemptive perspective on the atomic bomb? Why is the iconic "mushroom cloud" visual problematic? * 39:30 - If physics has a tune, what does that music sound like to physicists? * 46:25 - To what extent does the scale and abstraction of their research shape physicists' worldviews? 【拓展链接 The Links】 * Our Oppenheimer Moment: The Creation of A.I. Weapons * Oppenheimer and After * Ordinary Notes * Copenhagen * HSS at the Movies 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 Barbie是一部不需要介绍的电影。 从女性主义导演Greta Gerwig决定接受Barbie电影拍摄的那天起，疲惫娇娃的集体直觉就告诉我们，这部电影将会是一个和我们——作为女性创作者和评论者——不断交织的重要作品：它是我们在当下需要的文本，它是一部需要被拍出来、需要被我们看到、被我们被讨论的电影。电影中最核心的议题也是我们在这么多年以来关注和参与议题；电影对男权社会的戏谑和抛梗、对现实的无奈和失望、对女性自身的矛盾冲突、对于“个人觉醒”的描写，都映射出我们一路走来歪歪扭扭的足迹。这串足迹是集体的，也是个人的。 如果说看Barbie电影是场集体行为，参与它的程度从“狂欢”到“郑重”是一个延续的光谱，那么我们试图去参与这个光谱的每一段。芭比上映当天，拥抱粉色夏日的轻松和充满荧光色的芭比式的快乐；看完芭比之后，不断地回忆情节，阅读历史，阅读影评，自省，录制播客。这场夏天袭来的粉红色风暴让我们录制了一起很长的播客，我们聊了很多很多。 “Barbie” needs no introduction. From the moment acclaimed feminist filmmaker Greta Gerwig took the helm of this project, the CyberPink team has intuited that this film would resonate deeply with us—as women content creators peering into pop culture. Barbie is the movie we need right now—one destined to be made, seen, and discussed by a new generation of women who experienced this cultural icon in our own ways. Its central themes echo our longtime theses: gender power dynamics, women’s role in society, the conflicts we grapple with, and paths to self-actualization. Through clever satire of patriarchal tropes, raw disappointment with the real world, surprisingly sharp critiques of the tensions women face, and an arc of personal awakening, Barbie reflects our collective zig-zagging journey. For us, watching Barbie is a communal experience, spanning a spectrum from playful reverie to solemn rumination. On the opening day, we reveled in the gleeful pink fever dream of Barbie. Then came endless rehashing of plotlines, contextual research, reviews, introspection, and of course, culminating in this podcast episode that unpacks it all. This pink storm led to an epic 2-and-half-hour recording session. The film resonates as both a cultural touchstone and an opportunity for personal reflections —an instant classic to savor alone and together. 【时间轴 The When】 * 01:53 Barbie不只是一部电影，是今夏一个席卷全球的文化现象 * 05:35 疲惫芭比们在布鲁克林的观影体验：扮演女性气质 * 11:25 这部芭比大IP是如何被拍出来的？ * 16:41 我们最喜欢的电影情节/场景：真实的虚假、群Ken乱舞 * 24:05 芭比世界里的男性角色以及电影对男性气质的刻画和调侃 * 38:02 芭比的历史包袱：隐含颠覆意味的“永恒女性“ * 45:48 当我们用第三波女权主义的视角纳米级审视1960年代孕育出来的商业产物 * 47:55 展开讲讲肯娃娃这个邻家肌肉男形象是怎么被创造出来的 * 50:22 芭比作为一个产品和文化符号有哪些时代限制？ * 54:03 芭比与身材焦虑——腰究竟为什么这么细？ * 56:50 我们的成长过程中，芭比扮演过什么样的角色 * 1:09:00 芭比的本质，芭比的存在，一定就是反女性主义的吗? * 1:12:56 被导演Greta Gerwig重塑了的芭比是不是成了消费主义的“女权买办”？ * 1:25:56 我们纷纷离开了Barbieland，然后呢？ * 1:34:24 我们能否允许普通芭比的存在？（疲惫娇娃或成最大赢家？ * 01:53 “Barbie” is not just a movie, it’s the global cultural phenomenon of this summer * 05:35 Our own experience watching Barbie in New York, dressing up as Barbie as “drag” * 11:25 How did this movie come about? The push and pull between Mattel, Margot Robbie, and Greta Gerwig * 16:41 Our favorite scenes from the movie: Barbieland, the Ken dance * 24:05 How the movie portrays and pokes fun at masculinity — Ken, Allen, and Mattel executives * 38:02 Barbie’s historical baggage and her role as “the forever woman” * 45:48 Scrutinizing Barbie with today’s values * 47:55 How did Ken get invented? What happened with his “bump” * 50:22 Barbie’s limitation as a commercial product and her role in cultural commentary * 54:03 Barbie has the body of that of a drag queen; Barbie and body image anxiety * 56:50 What role did Barbie play in the lives of CyberPink hosts as girls growing up in China in the 90s? * 1:09:00 Is Barbie’s existence anti-feminism? Can Barbie grow and change? * 1:12:56 The underlying conflict and complicity between Greta Girwig’s Barbie and capitalism * 1:25:56 We left Barbieland, then what? Our discussions about the movie’s ending * 1:34:24 Can we give space for the existence of a normal, tired Barbie? 【拓展链接 The Links】 * [A Six-Decade Tour of Barbie’s Dreamhouses]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/14/style/barbie-dreamhouse-history-six-decades.html * [After “Barbie,” Mattel Is Raiding Its Entire Toybox] https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/07/10/after-barbie-mattel-is-raiding-its-entire-toybox * [Is Your Carbon Footprint BS?]https://gimletmedia.com/shows/howtosaveaplanet/llh8gxg/is-your-carbon-footprint-bs * [“Forever Barbie：The Unauthorized Biography of a Real Doll”]https://www.amazon.com/Forever-Barbie-Unauthorized-Biography-Real/dp/0802776949 * [Greta Gerwig’s ‘Barbie’ Dream Job]https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/11/magazine/greta-gerwig-barbie.html 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 本期关于性，而且只关于性——这个在当代社会和日常生活无法被绕过的话题，一把了解自己的钥匙。 我们趁着录制这次节目的契机，从大脑里提取出了我们关于性的记忆，哪些小时候看到的画面和角色给了我们性启蒙？同时，我们也聊了最近HBO颇有争议的一部剧集「偶像漩涡」（英语：The Idol），以及里面糟糕的对女性和性的刻画。我们也找出了一些近些年银幕上受人欢迎并且对女性的性欲有正面和积极的解读，鼓励我们去直视自己的欲望。 娇娃画外音：本集播客提到的所有性行为和对于性的解读都是出自于我们的个人经历，我们是以异性恋和顺直女身份的视角去观察和谈论性，所以会有异性恋中心主义的局限性。 录制期间我们将西门庆说成了“妹夫”，西门庆不是妹夫也不想做妹夫，望周知。 本期节目是由“成年人世界里的一点甜”的女性情趣品牌——大人糖赞助的定制播客。在本期节目里你能听到疲惫娇娃们对进阶新产品”兔子月“的细致使用体验。 In this episode, we talk about a very under-explored topic in pop culture -- sex (lol) We reminisce about the pop culture characters from childhood that sparked our sexual awakening. We critique the controversial HBO series "The Idol" for its terrible portrayals of desirability and sex. We also discuss recent shows praised for their positive depictions of female sexuality, encouraging women to embrace their own wants and needs. A note from CyberPink - our perspectives come from personal experiences as cis heterosexual women, which come with inherent limitations. This episode is sponsored by the female sexual wellness brand OSUGA. Tune in to hear our thoughts on their sex toy "Rabbit Moon"! 【听众福利 The Deal】 对大人糖产品感兴趣的朋友们，可通过以下2种方式获得专属优惠，兔子月原价599元，领券后到手价499元，备注还可额外赠送158元大礼包，同时之前推荐的小海豹和逗豆鸟这次依然会给到优惠！更多信息可以点击链接查看详情哦✌️ 1⃣️点击这里跳转或复制口令【￥pqPBdtNklHp￥】领专属优惠券，下单直接满减 2⃣️淘宝搜索【大人糖旗舰店】，私信客服，报暗号【疲惫娇娃】领券下单 [58804d0eaf91951113c3db799f5d3a85.jpg] 重要提示！ 1、下单时记得一定要备注【疲惫娇娃】才会随单一起送出礼包哦 2、部分苹果手机是最新系统的听友可能会遇到口令无法跳转的情况，选择第2种方式购买也可以的哦 另外！考虑到我们有部分海外听众，也可通过点击➡️ OSUGA 下单输入优惠码【疲惫娇娃40】可立减40刀，但到手价格&优惠政策与国内不同享，有需要的朋友们可以自由选择啦～ 【时间轴 The When】 01:50 几个见过世面的娇娃们对进阶新产品“兔子月”大呼牛逼，并且激情介绍产品详情和真实使用体验（此次聊了整整十分钟） 10: 08 疲惫娇娃们的银幕性启蒙，大陆影视剧中拧巴的女性性主体和港台片中媚骨天成的女性角色们 14:10 迪士尼版本「巴黎圣母院」中的性压抑：性力量能转化成黑暗和毁灭 17:25 「情深深 雨濛濛」中的两代女性悲剧，以及银幕上平凡的性 21:27 「赎罪」中禁忌和跨越阶级的性 25:40 女性仍然卡在”不知道如何表达性需求“这一步 28:20 HBO的「The Idol 偶像漩涡」中对女性身体和性的糟糕刻画 42:20 Netflix的「Never Have I Ever 好想做一次」中积极的性理念 49:17 骄傲月中的灵感 01:50 We rave about the advanced new product "Rabbit Moon" and enthusiastically (maybe too much) introduce product details and real user experiences (we talked for a full 10 minutes!) 10:08 Cyberpink’s sexual awakenings from movies and TV shows - twisted female sexual subjects in mainland Chinese media vs alluring female characters in Hong Kong & Taiwanese media 14:10 Sexual repression in the Disney version of "The Hunchback of Notre Dame": sexual power can transform into darkness and destruction 17:25 Two generations of women's tragedies in "Romance in the Rain", and mundane sex on screen 21:27 Forbidden and cross-class sex in "Atonement" 25:40 Women still don’t know how to express sexual needs 28:20 HBO's "The Idol" and its terrible portrayals of the female body and sexuality 42:20 The positive sexual ethos in Netflix's "Never Have I Ever" 49:17 Asian sex icons and inspirations during Pride Month 【拓展链接 The Links】 偶像旋涡 (The Idol) 好想做一次 (Never Have I Ever) 赎罪 (Atonement) 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email：[email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat： CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 《过往人生》是新锐导演Celine Song的首部长篇电影，故事讲述女主角Nora（由Greta Lee饰演）和童年时期相恋的青梅竹马Hae Sung（由刘台午饰演）因移民原因分开二十年后，在纽约相遇的情节。此时的Nora已经与Arthur（由John Magaro饰演）组建了家庭。这是我们几个人今年到现在为止看到的最好的原创剧本电影，而且引发了很多对过去人生阶段的反省和思考。女主角Nora本身就像是我们身边亲密的朋友，她的出走、取舍、对梦想的追求和掌握自己人生命运的态度也让我们看到自己的影子。 "Past Lives" is the first feature film by director Celine Song. The movie tells the story of Nora (played by Greta Lee) reuniting with her childhood sweetheart Hae Sung (played by Teo Yoo) after 20 years in New York. But by now, Nora has formed a family with Arthur (played by John Magaro) and is chasing her dream to be a successful playwright. It's the best original scripted film we've seen this year, and it provokes some soul-searching and reflections on our own past life stages. The heroine Nora is like a close friend of ours. Her leaving, staying, pursuit of dreams, and determination to control her own fate remind us of our own paths to our current life. 【时间轴 The When】 * 01:51 对电影的第一印象 * 9:24 选角的巧妙 -- “双开门”沉默如山的韩国男人 * 11:34 镜头语言、背景音乐中的紧迫感和松散感 * 23:20 电影的结尾必须“完美” * 29:55 这是一个关于移民的故事 * 32:22 年轻女性的出走和离开是自我实现中重要的部分 * 36:00 跨文化婚姻中健康和不健康的权力结构 * 46:15 为什么说Nora是有自主能动性的女性角色 * 01:51 Our first impressions of the movie * 9:24 Casting choice: a silent but strong masculine type * 11:34 How camera movements and background music build and release tension * 23:20 The "perfect ending" of this movie * 29:55 At its core, this is a story about immigration * 32:22 "Leaving" and its importance to women's self-realization * 36:00 Healthy and not-so-healthy power dynamics within a white-Asian couple * 46:15 Why Nora is a female character with real agency 【拓展链接 The Links】 * A Woman Satisfied: Alyssa Songsiridej on the Refreshing Lack of Regret in Past Lives * ‘Past Lives’ Review: Longing for a Future * 《前世》：颠覆爱情电影，超越身份政治 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email：[email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat： CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 为了抵制创作零工化和资本借用语言大模型去剥削本已经雪上加霜的编剧们，好莱坞的编剧们从从五月初开始了一场由工会WGA带领的旷日持久的罢工。上万名编剧加入罢工运动 ，多档谈话类节目停播，我们喜欢的深夜脱口秀和很多剧集都不同程度地受到了影响。 这集疲惫娇娃从这场罢工谈起，拷问资本，拷问人工智能的幽灵，以及解读被流媒体资本蚕食的处境堪忧的好莱坞创意“劳工”的处境。我们为此采访了电视电影编剧以及导演Maegan Houang黃志信，她也是此次WGA工会的罢工领袖(strike captain)之一。此次采访是英文，所以Maegan的观点由小蓝转述。 Movie and TV writers started a prolonged strike led by the Writers Guild of America (WGA) in early May, demanding better revenue share from the studios and protection from the threat of artificial intelligence. The strike has resulted in the suspension of multiple talk shows, some of our favorite late-night shows, and delayed production of many drama series. In this episode of CyberPink, we talk about the reasons behind this strike, and how streaming and the era of prestige TV changed the industry's revenue structure. We interviewed director and writer Maegan Houang, who is a strike captain at WGA, about why she decided to start the strike and what she thinks the studios need to do. The points she made (the interview was in English) were relayed and incorporated throughout the episodes. 【时间轴 The When】 1:10 好莱坞编剧大罢工是什么？发生了什么？ 06:40 剧集创作零工化的真实代价 10:35 神圣的“编剧室“模式已经破产？ 18:10 WGA和生成式大语言模型的对峙：如何区分人工智能创作与人的创作？ 23:30 人类和”人工智能“的第一次接触，与第二次接触; 人类是否注定要向多巴胺妥协 28:00 需要被拷问的不是大语言模型，而是资本之后人的贪婪 34:50 工会存在的意义 1:10 What is the WGA strike about? What changes in the industry led to it? 06:40 The real cost of gigification in writing 10:35 Has the sacred “writers’ room” model gone bankrupt? 18:10 Writers vs. generative large language models: the need to distinguish AI creation from human creation? 23:30 The first and second encounters between humans and “Artificial Intelligence” 28:00 Large language model vs. human greed 34:50 The significance of unions 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 一部跨时代的美剧就这样结束了。媒体公司Waystar的王座尘埃落定，陪伴我们多年的Logan Roy和四个废物儿女也终于鞠躬谢幕。这部剧推出的时候美国还处在川普任期中，结束的时候美国处在疫情之后的余烬里。有人认为他是一个紧贴着我们生活的世界的多元宇宙，是我们时代精神的缩影；也有人认为他商战剧的外表下真正讲述的故事是关于家庭和创伤。我们所处的这个时代中所有的权力——父权，金钱，政治——都被编剧放在手术台上解剖；我们对于权力结构的看法可能前所未有的被这部剧彻底改变了。 Alas, it is over. The fight for the throne of media conglomerate Waystar Royco has settled. The king, Logan Roy, alongside his four hapless offsprings, have finally taken their bow. The show launched during the peak of the Trump era and ended as the U.S. smolders in the aftermath of a pandemic. Every form of power that is inherent to our era — patriarchy, money, politics — has been laid bare, scrutinized, taken apart on the screenwriter's operation table. Our perceptions of power structures might have been irrevocably reshaped by this show, in ways we cannot quite put into words yet. But still, we try in this episode: 【时间轴 The When】 * 01:53 对大结局的看法 * 11:24 继承之战照进现实——CNN的换帅大戏，2020年大选 * 19:09 错位的道德坐标 * 33:23 倒数第二集的四段独白 * 59:29 作为演员的Jeremy Strong和作为角色的Kendall * 01:09:12 人是可以成长的吗？ * 01:53 Thoughts on the Grand Finale * 11:24 The Drama of CNN's Leadership Change, the Legacy of the 2020 Election * 19:09 Succession’s Displaced Moral Compass * 33:23 The Four Monologues in the Penultimate Episode * 59:29 Jeremy Strong as an Actor and Kendall as a Character * 01:09:12 Can People Really Grow? 【拓展链接 The Links】 * INSIDE THE MELTDOWN AT CNN 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email：[email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat： CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 这是一期和友台《珊越拾穗》的串台节目！ 一起聊天的三个女的分别是：林珊，小蓝，明雪 《重启人生》是一部让人会心一笑的日式人间轻喜剧，主角麻美在意外死亡之后发现自己可以重新回到婴儿时期活一遍，在经历了五次重生之后她逐渐意识到了自己活着的意义，最终回到家乡和童年挚友度过了平静又美好的余生。编剧笨蛋节奏用举重若轻的方式讨论生死的宏大命题，看似处处闲笔却能勾勒出一个真实立体的世界，让不同文化背景和年龄的观众产生强烈的情感共鸣。这一集里，我们讨论了日本的“地元系”、“空气系”、和“世界系”叙事，“宽松世代”心态和现实社会中的贫困问题。故事里的主角和朋友们有一种笃定和闲适的人生态度，而她所在的北熊谷也是一个乌托邦式的熟人社会，与孤独的当代原子社会背道而驰。如果说日式漫才里有负责吐槽的“直人”和负责执拗的“怪人”，这部剧的妙处在于它温柔地提醒了电视机前的我们对随时可能降临的死亡如何拒不接受，以及对“不平凡“的执念。 "Brush up Life" is a Japanese comedy about Kondo Asami, who discovers that she can go back to being a baby and relive her life after dying in an accident at 33. After experiencing five reincarnations, she gradually realizes the meaning of her rebirth and ultimately returns to her hometown to live out her days with her childhood friends. The screenwriter, BakaRhythm, uses a light touch to discuss the grand theme of life and death, outlining a world that allows us to feel such a strong emotional resonance with the characters despite being from different backgrounds. The protagonist in the story has a sense of certainty about who she is and a relaxed attitude toward conventional success. Her hometown is depicted as a utopian community opposite from our atomized society. The brilliance of this drama lies in its gentle reminder of the unreasonable way we refuse to accept that death could come at any moment in life, as well as our obsession with being extraordinary. 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:02:32 节奏缓慢的电视剧是件激进的事情 * 00:04:30 日本的炼狱系 * 00:05:35 《重启人生》没有去触碰重生剧的痛点 * 00:07:03 日本的世界系 * 00:08:35 日本的地元系：专注小地方，讨论“我们的地方” * 00:09:20 回到故乡（小城市）与离开故乡（到大城市、出国）的对比 * 00:11:03 日本的空气系 * 00:13:00 思考日本现实社会中的贫困问题 * 00:15:10 对日本作为后稀缺（post-scarcity）社会的想象 * 00:15:44 日本的外来打工移民 * 00:16:35 日本的相对贫困问题 * 00:18:25 日本的泡沫经济与后稀缺社会有所联 * 00:19:55 躺平的人和内卷的人殊途同归 * 00:21:45 日本的宽松世代；横向连结与纵向连结 * 00:25:48 飞行员的设定 * 00:27:30 《重启人生》对死亡的思考 * 00:30:25 《重启人生》中的佛教轮回概念 * 00:31:20 《重启人生》代入感强烈 * 00:35:40 《重启人生》的漫才节奏；直人与怪人；重复 * 00:41:05 反对上价值 * 00:43:10 日常生活中的况味 * 00:48:10 人生的捷径与修行 * 00:49:50 日韩影音在全球流通的对比 * 00:54:05 大荧幕与小屏幕的对比 * 00:59:15 主演安藤樱 * 01:02:10 《重启人生》没有挑战社会主流价值 * 00:02:32 - It's a radical thing to produce a slowly-paced TV drama. * 00:05:35 - "Brush up Life" did not touch on the pain points of rebirth dramas. * 00:07:03 - Japan's "world" genre. * 00:08:35 - Japan's "local" genre: Focusing on small places and discussing "our place." * 00:09:20 - The comparison between returning to hometowns (small cities) and leaving hometowns (going to big cities or overseas). * 00:11:03 - Japan's "atmosphere" genre. * 00:13:00 - Reflecting on poverty issues in Japanese society. * 00:15:10 - Imagining Japan as a post-scarcity society. * 00:15:44 - Japan's foreign migrant workers. * 00:16:35 - Japan's relative poverty issue. * 00:18:25 - The connection between Japan's bubble economy and post-scarcity society. * 00:19:55 - The different paths of "lying flat" and "involution." * 00:21:45 - Japan's "loose" generation * 00:27:30 - "Brush up Life" explores death. * 00:30:25 - The Buddhist reincarnation concept in the show * 00:35:40 - The comedic rhythm of "Brush up Life" * 00:49:50 - The comparison of Japanese and Korean dramas in the global market * 00:59:15 - Why we love Sakurai Ando. * 01:02:10 - "Brush up Life" did not challenge mainstream social values. 【拓展链接 The Links】 * 《奇巧计程车》 * 《宽松世代又如何》影评 * 有日剧气质的美国导演Kelly Reichardt 新片《Showing Up 好戲登場》 * 为什么日本年轻人不愿意出国 * 东京贫困女子 * 高中生穷忙族 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email：[email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat： CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 在流行文化中，女性的身体似乎是可塑的：小红书告诉你只要自律加上运气，你想要什么样的身材都唾手可得。然而，人和食物的真实关系往往是拧巴而痛苦的。我们的狩猎采集者祖先为了生存，在十几万年中进化出了对糖分和脂肪的渴望；而在几十年中，现代食品工业让糖分和脂肪突然变的唾手可取，馋虫每一天都无数次试探我们意志力的边缘。近期的新药——也就是卡戴珊身材巨变的钥匙——Ozempic在美国引发了巨大的讨论。肥胖是意志力薄弱的体现吗？在身体依旧长期被商品化的世界里，我们该如何看待Ozempic“躺瘦”的诱惑？ In the realm of popular culture, the female body appears to be infinitely malleable: social media promises that with discipline and luck, any desired physique is within reach. But in reality, our relationship with food often twists into a painful knot. Our hunter-gatherer ancestors evolved an insatiable craving for sugar and fat; in mere decades, the modern food industry has made these indulgences effortlessly accessible, incessantly tempting our willpower at every turn. Recently, a new drug called Ozempic — the key to the Kardashian-esque metamorphosis from silicon-injected peaches to sinny Barbies — has ignited a fervent debate in America. Does obesity signify a weakness of will? In a world where the body remains commodified, how should we perceive the seductive allure of Ozempic's promise of effortless slimming? Is fat bias systemic and how do we fight against it? 【时间轴 The When】 * 02:46 Ozempic是什么，为什么他引发了如此多讨论？ * 16:05 肥胖与医疗系统、社会阶层的复杂关系 * 45:17 我们为什么不喜欢《鲸》？ * 02:46 What is Ozempic and why has it sparked so much debate? * 16:05 The complex relationship between obesity, the healthcare system, and social class * 45:17 Why don't we like "Whale"? 【拓展链接 The Links】 * Will the Ozempic Era Change How We Think About Being Fat and Being Thin? * Life After Food * An Extreme Risk of Taking Ozempic: Malnutrition * Does energy imbalance (calories in > out) cause obesity? * Diet culture can hurt kids. This author advises parents to reclaim the word 'fat' 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email：[email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat： CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

本期节目由UPKO赞助播出 【聊了什么The What】 A24最新大热剧集「怒呛人生」aka ”Beef“讲述的是两名陌生人在各自人生的低谷因一起路怒事件结下了梁子，在一系列逐渐升级的复仇之后犹如镜子般映照出彼此的最我毁灭。这部剧在中国互联网上大受好评，引发一系列对于东亚原生家庭中的”心理债务“以及男弱女强的婚姻关系的讨论。然而在北美，韩裔艺术家David Choe的性侵言论争议让这部口碑极佳的剧集蒙上一层阴影。 In this episode, we are talking about A24's latest hit show "Beef," how it serves up Asian American fury, discuss intergenerational trauma, power dynamic and class differences within a marriage, and the limitation of therapy. We also discuss the controversy over David Choe, who plays Issac in the show. 本节目有关于性的提及，请酌情收听。This episode is explicit in every way. Please listen with caution. ALSO, MAJOR SPOILER ALERT! 剧透警告！！ 【时间轴 The When】 * 0:00-9:22 广告时间：UPKO * 11:30 对《怒呛人生》第一印象 * 15:04 Danny和他的韩裔移民父母对幸福的强烈不信任 * 17:52 Amy和老公George之间的复杂的婚姻关系 * 30:32 Amy和Danny是彼此最无法面对的镜像 * 39:38 剧名Beef：吃掉两人“过节”的牛肉 * 43:36 为什么《怒呛人生》在国内这么火？中国的观众为什么会被如此具体的美国加州亚裔生活经历触动？ * 51:42 Cousin Issac的角色，韩裔美国人在洛杉矶的历史背景 * 58:21 Cousin Issac的选角背后的争议，种族歧视以及有害的男性气质 * 1:09:36 Jordan，脸谱化的白人女富豪 * 1:13:05 魔幻现实主义的元素：土地，浆果，乌鸦 * 1:17:28 请不要关掉音频哦此刻有彩蛋 * 0:00-9:22 Sponsored Ad for UPKO * 11:30 First impressions of Beef * 15:04 Danny and his family's pessimistic view on life * 17:52 Amy and George's situationship * 30:32 Amy and Danny are "divine twins" * 39:38 The meaning behind the name beef * 43:36 Why is Beef so popular in China * 51:42 Cousin Issac and Korean American history in LA * 58:21 The controversial casting of David Choe for Cousin Issac * 1:09:36 Jordan, the token white woman * 1:13:05 Magical realism elements: dirt, psychedelics, and crows * 1:17:28 Don't leave just yet, we have an easter egg for you 【本集嘉宾 The Guests】 烤芬 播客”越烤越糊“主播 【拓展链接 The Links】 David Choe是谁？ 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 🎉【UPKO 听众专属福利】 1. 点击这里跳转，或复制完整链接【19￥qlSBdmSJjPt￥ CZ0001】粉丝优惠，领取专属UPKO天猫旗舰店优惠券，下单直接满减 2. 淘宝搜索【UPKO旗舰店】，私信客服，报暗号【疲惫娇娃】领券下单； 3. 另外！考虑到我们有部分海外听众，海外用户购买可以到upko官网www.upkoofficialshop.com , 下单时使用code【cyberpink】获得20% OFF惊喜折扣。 重要提示！ 1. 淘宝下单时记得一定要私信客服【疲惫娇娃】才能领券哦～ 2. 部分苹果手机是最新系统的听友可能会遇到口令无法跳转的情况，选择第2种方式购买也可以的哦 [image.png] 【以下图为UPKO可爱的小熊礼盒】 [WechatIMG9.jpeg] 祝大家五一劳动节愉快！ 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email：[email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat： CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 我们最近对HBO制作的游戏改编电视剧《最后生还者》十分着迷，于是果断邀请我们的好朋友Sophia一起来深入探讨这个制作精良的节目。其中一个很大的主题就是，爱是否可以征服一切？在世界末日之下，是什么支撑着男女主角活下去？ 在此有大型剧透警告：我们将深入讨论剧情和比较有争议的大结局，所以如果还没有去看剧的请先看了再回来听，或者做好被剧透的准备来听我们的安利。 We are obsessed with the video game adaptation TV series by HBO, The Last of Us, and invited our old friend Sophia (screenwriter) to join us in diving into the details of this well-made show. Love is a major theme of the show -- but does it conquer all? Does it forgive all faults? Does the end justify the means? Tune in to find out. Major spoiler alert, we will be discussing several episodes and the ending as well, so this is your reminder to watch the show if you haven't, or be prepared to find out what (controversy) happens at the end. 【时间轴 The When】 * 1:42 游戏改编佳作《最后生还者》剧情简介，（全集）剧透警告 * 4:08 追剧初体验：游戏玩家与普通观众为何都喜欢 * 8:42 第三集：足以载入影史的暖心末日恋情，突破直男壁垒 * 17:41 第五集：Joel和Ellie的镜像人物：哥哥Henry和弟弟Sam，以及世界末日下对孩童的刻画 * 24:57 第七集：Ellie和Riley的懵懂初恋 * 29:18 第八集：Ellie的自我成长 * 34:08 第九集 / 大结局：爱是否可以征服一切？ * 48:36 思想实验：该如何应对世界末日 * 54:15 表扬HBO对于游戏情节细节的致敬 * 57:17 咱们闷骚的爹（daddy变身father）：Pedro Pascal和他的一些趣闻 * 1:42 Plot summary of the game adaptation masterpiece "The Last of Us", major spoiler warning * 4:08 Our initial thoughts: Why gamers and regular viewers alike all love it * 8:42 Episode 3: A heartwarming doomsday love story, breaking through the straight male barrier * 17:41 Episode 5: Joel and Ellie's mirrored characters: siblings Henry and Sam, and the portrayal of children in the post-apocalyptic world * 24:57 Episode 7: Ellie and Riley's innocent first love * 29:18 Episode 8: Ellie's self-growth as a character * 34:08 Episode 9 / Grand Finale: Can love conquer all? * 48:36 Thought experiment: How to approach the end of the world * 54:15 Praising HBO's tribute to the game plot details * 57:17 Our beloved "daddy" becomes a "father": Pedro Pascal and anecdotes 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email：[email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat： CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助