【聊了什么The What】 《过往人生》是新锐导演Celine Song的首部长篇电影，故事讲述女主角Nora（由Greta Lee饰演）和童年时期相恋的青梅竹马Hae Sung（由刘台午饰演）因移民原因分开二十年后，在纽约相遇的情节。此时的Nora已经与Arthur（由John Magaro饰演）组建了家庭。这是我们几个人今年到现在为止看到的最好的原创剧本电影，而且引发了很多对过去人生阶段的反省和思考。女主角Nora本身就像是我们身边亲密的朋友，她的出走、取舍、对梦想的追求和掌握自己人生命运的态度也让我们看到自己的影子。 "Past Lives" is the first feature film by director Celine Song. The movie tells the story of Nora (played by Greta Lee) reuniting with her childhood sweetheart Hae Sung (played by Teo Yoo) after 20 years in New York. But by now, Nora has formed a family with Arthur (played by John Magaro) and is chasing her dream to be a successful playwright. It's the best original scripted film we've seen this year, and it provokes some soul-searching and reflections on our own past life stages. The heroine Nora is like a close friend of ours. Her leaving, staying, pursuit of dreams, and determination to control her own fate remind us of our own paths to our current life. 【时间轴 The When】 * 01:51 对电影的第一印象 * 9:24 选角的巧妙 -- “双开门”沉默如山的韩国男人 * 11:34 镜头语言、背景音乐中的紧迫感和松散感 * 23:20 电影的结尾必须“完美” * 29:55 这是一个关于移民的故事 * 32:22 年轻女性的出走和离开是自我实现中重要的部分 * 36:00 跨文化婚姻中健康和不健康的权力结构 * 46:15 为什么说Nora是有自主能动性的女性角色 * 01:51 Our first impressions of the movie * 9:24 Casting choice: a silent but strong masculine type * 11:34 How camera movements and background music build and release tension * 23:20 The "perfect ending" of this movie * 29:55 At its core, this is a story about immigration * 32:22 "Leaving" and its importance to women's self-realization * 36:00 Healthy and not-so-healthy power dynamics within a white-Asian couple * 46:15 Why Nora is a female character with real agency 【拓展链接 The Links】 * A Woman Satisfied: Alyssa Songsiridej on the Refreshing Lack of Regret in Past Lives * ‘Past Lives’ Review: Longing for a Future * 《前世》：颠覆爱情电影，超越身份政治 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email：[email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat： CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 为了抵制创作零工化和资本借用语言大模型去剥削本已经雪上加霜的编剧们，好莱坞的编剧们从从五月初开始了一场由工会WGA带领的旷日持久的罢工。上万名编剧加入罢工运动 ，多档谈话类节目停播，我们喜欢的深夜脱口秀和很多剧集都不同程度地受到了影响。 这集疲惫娇娃从这场罢工谈起，拷问资本，拷问人工智能的幽灵，以及解读被流媒体资本蚕食的处境堪忧的好莱坞创意“劳工”的处境。我们为此采访了电视电影编剧以及导演Maegan Houang黃志信，她也是此次WGA工会的罢工领袖(strike captain)之一。此次采访是英文，所以Maegan的观点由小蓝转述。 Movie and TV writers started a prolonged strike led by the Writers Guild of America (WGA) in early May, demanding better revenue share from the studios and protection from the threat of artificial intelligence. The strike has resulted in the suspension of multiple talk shows, some of our favorite late-night shows, and delayed production of many drama series. In this episode of CyberPink, we talk about the reasons behind this strike, and how streaming and the era of prestige TV changed the industry's revenue structure. We interviewed director and writer Maegan Houang, who is a strike captain at WGA, about why she decided to start the strike and what she thinks the studios need to do. The points she made (the interview was in English) were relayed and incorporated throughout the episodes. 【时间轴 The When】 1:10 好莱坞编剧大罢工是什么？发生了什么？ 06:40 剧集创作零工化的真实代价 10:35 神圣的“编剧室“模式已经破产？ 18:10 WGA和生成式大语言模型的对峙：如何区分人工智能创作与人的创作？ 23:30 人类和”人工智能“的第一次接触，与第二次接触; 人类是否注定要向多巴胺妥协 28:00 需要被拷问的不是大语言模型，而是资本之后人的贪婪 34:50 工会存在的意义 1:10 What is the WGA strike about? What changes in the industry led to it? 06:40 The real cost of gigification in writing 10:35 Has the sacred “writers’ room” model gone bankrupt? 18:10 Writers vs. generative large language models: the need to distinguish AI creation from human creation? 23:30 The first and second encounters between humans and “Artificial Intelligence” 28:00 Large language model vs. human greed 34:50 The significance of unions 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 一部跨时代的美剧就这样结束了。媒体公司Waystar的王座尘埃落定，陪伴我们多年的Logan Roy和四个废物儿女也终于鞠躬谢幕。这部剧推出的时候美国还处在川普任期中，结束的时候美国处在疫情之后的余烬里。有人认为他是一个紧贴着我们生活的世界的多元宇宙，是我们时代精神的缩影；也有人认为他商战剧的外表下真正讲述的故事是关于家庭和创伤。我们所处的这个时代中所有的权力——父权，金钱，政治——都被编剧放在手术台上解剖；我们对于权力结构的看法可能前所未有的被这部剧彻底改变了。 Alas, it is over. The fight for the throne of media conglomerate Waystar Royco has settled. The king, Logan Roy, alongside his four hapless offsprings, have finally taken their bow. The show launched during the peak of the Trump era and ended as the U.S. smolders in the aftermath of a pandemic. Every form of power that is inherent to our era — patriarchy, money, politics — has been laid bare, scrutinized, taken apart on the screenwriter's operation table. Our perceptions of power structures might have been irrevocably reshaped by this show, in ways we cannot quite put into words yet. But still, we try in this episode: 【时间轴 The When】 * 01:53 对大结局的看法 * 11:24 继承之战照进现实——CNN的换帅大戏，2020年大选 * 19:09 错位的道德坐标 * 33:23 倒数第二集的四段独白 * 59:29 作为演员的Jeremy Strong和作为角色的Kendall * 01:09:12 人是可以成长的吗？ * 01:53 Thoughts on the Grand Finale * 11:24 The Drama of CNN's Leadership Change, the Legacy of the 2020 Election * 19:09 Succession’s Displaced Moral Compass * 33:23 The Four Monologues in the Penultimate Episode * 59:29 Jeremy Strong as an Actor and Kendall as a Character * 01:09:12 Can People Really Grow? 【拓展链接 The Links】 * INSIDE THE MELTDOWN AT CNN 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email：[email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat： CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 这是一期和友台《珊越拾穗》的串台节目！ 一起聊天的三个女的分别是：林珊，小蓝，明雪 《重启人生》是一部让人会心一笑的日式人间轻喜剧，主角麻美在意外死亡之后发现自己可以重新回到婴儿时期活一遍，在经历了五次重生之后她逐渐意识到了自己活着的意义，最终回到家乡和童年挚友度过了平静又美好的余生。编剧笨蛋节奏用举重若轻的方式讨论生死的宏大命题，看似处处闲笔却能勾勒出一个真实立体的世界，让不同文化背景和年龄的观众产生强烈的情感共鸣。这一集里，我们讨论了日本的“地元系”、“空气系”、和“世界系”叙事，“宽松世代”心态和现实社会中的贫困问题。故事里的主角和朋友们有一种笃定和闲适的人生态度，而她所在的北熊谷也是一个乌托邦式的熟人社会，与孤独的当代原子社会背道而驰。如果说日式漫才里有负责吐槽的“直人”和负责执拗的“怪人”，这部剧的妙处在于它温柔地提醒了电视机前的我们对随时可能降临的死亡如何拒不接受，以及对“不平凡“的执念。 "Brush up Life" is a Japanese comedy about Kondo Asami, who discovers that she can go back to being a baby and relive her life after dying in an accident at 33. After experiencing five reincarnations, she gradually realizes the meaning of her rebirth and ultimately returns to her hometown to live out her days with her childhood friends. The screenwriter, BakaRhythm, uses a light touch to discuss the grand theme of life and death, outlining a world that allows us to feel such a strong emotional resonance with the characters despite being from different backgrounds. The protagonist in the story has a sense of certainty about who she is and a relaxed attitude toward conventional success. Her hometown is depicted as a utopian community opposite from our atomized society. The brilliance of this drama lies in its gentle reminder of the unreasonable way we refuse to accept that death could come at any moment in life, as well as our obsession with being extraordinary. 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:02:32 节奏缓慢的电视剧是件激进的事情 * 00:04:30 日本的炼狱系 * 00:05:35 《重启人生》没有去触碰重生剧的痛点 * 00:07:03 日本的世界系 * 00:08:35 日本的地元系：专注小地方，讨论“我们的地方” * 00:09:20 回到故乡（小城市）与离开故乡（到大城市、出国）的对比 * 00:11:03 日本的空气系 * 00:13:00 思考日本现实社会中的贫困问题 * 00:15:10 对日本作为后稀缺（post-scarcity）社会的想象 * 00:15:44 日本的外来打工移民 * 00:16:35 日本的相对贫困问题 * 00:18:25 日本的泡沫经济与后稀缺社会有所联 * 00:19:55 躺平的人和内卷的人殊途同归 * 00:21:45 日本的宽松世代；横向连结与纵向连结 * 00:25:48 飞行员的设定 * 00:27:30 《重启人生》对死亡的思考 * 00:30:25 《重启人生》中的佛教轮回概念 * 00:31:20 《重启人生》代入感强烈 * 00:35:40 《重启人生》的漫才节奏；直人与怪人；重复 * 00:41:05 反对上价值 * 00:43:10 日常生活中的况味 * 00:48:10 人生的捷径与修行 * 00:49:50 日韩影音在全球流通的对比 * 00:54:05 大荧幕与小屏幕的对比 * 00:59:15 主演安藤樱 * 01:02:10 《重启人生》没有挑战社会主流价值 * 00:02:32 - It's a radical thing to produce a slowly-paced TV drama. * 00:05:35 - "Brush up Life" did not touch on the pain points of rebirth dramas. * 00:07:03 - Japan's "world" genre. * 00:08:35 - Japan's "local" genre: Focusing on small places and discussing "our place." * 00:09:20 - The comparison between returning to hometowns (small cities) and leaving hometowns (going to big cities or overseas). * 00:11:03 - Japan's "atmosphere" genre. * 00:13:00 - Reflecting on poverty issues in Japanese society. * 00:15:10 - Imagining Japan as a post-scarcity society. * 00:15:44 - Japan's foreign migrant workers. * 00:16:35 - Japan's relative poverty issue. * 00:18:25 - The connection between Japan's bubble economy and post-scarcity society. * 00:19:55 - The different paths of "lying flat" and "involution." * 00:21:45 - Japan's "loose" generation * 00:27:30 - "Brush up Life" explores death. * 00:30:25 - The Buddhist reincarnation concept in the show * 00:35:40 - The comedic rhythm of "Brush up Life" * 00:49:50 - The comparison of Japanese and Korean dramas in the global market * 00:59:15 - Why we love Sakurai Ando. * 01:02:10 - "Brush up Life" did not challenge mainstream social values. 【拓展链接 The Links】 * 《奇巧计程车》 * 《宽松世代又如何》影评 * 有日剧气质的美国导演Kelly Reichardt 新片《Showing Up 好戲登場》 * 为什么日本年轻人不愿意出国 * 东京贫困女子 * 高中生穷忙族 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email：[email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat： CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 在流行文化中，女性的身体似乎是可塑的：小红书告诉你只要自律加上运气，你想要什么样的身材都唾手可得。然而，人和食物的真实关系往往是拧巴而痛苦的。我们的狩猎采集者祖先为了生存，在十几万年中进化出了对糖分和脂肪的渴望；而在几十年中，现代食品工业让糖分和脂肪突然变的唾手可取，馋虫每一天都无数次试探我们意志力的边缘。近期的新药——也就是卡戴珊身材巨变的钥匙——Ozempic在美国引发了巨大的讨论。肥胖是意志力薄弱的体现吗？在身体依旧长期被商品化的世界里，我们该如何看待Ozempic“躺瘦”的诱惑？ In the realm of popular culture, the female body appears to be infinitely malleable: social media promises that with discipline and luck, any desired physique is within reach. But in reality, our relationship with food often twists into a painful knot. Our hunter-gatherer ancestors evolved an insatiable craving for sugar and fat; in mere decades, the modern food industry has made these indulgences effortlessly accessible, incessantly tempting our willpower at every turn. Recently, a new drug called Ozempic — the key to the Kardashian-esque metamorphosis from silicon-injected peaches to sinny Barbies — has ignited a fervent debate in America. Does obesity signify a weakness of will? In a world where the body remains commodified, how should we perceive the seductive allure of Ozempic's promise of effortless slimming? Is fat bias systemic and how do we fight against it? 【时间轴 The When】 * 02:46 Ozempic是什么，为什么他引发了如此多讨论？ * 16:05 肥胖与医疗系统、社会阶层的复杂关系 * 45:17 我们为什么不喜欢《鲸》？ * 02:46 What is Ozempic and why has it sparked so much debate? * 16:05 The complex relationship between obesity, the healthcare system, and social class * 45:17 Why don't we like "Whale"? 【拓展链接 The Links】 * Will the Ozempic Era Change How We Think About Being Fat and Being Thin? * Life After Food * An Extreme Risk of Taking Ozempic: Malnutrition * Does energy imbalance (calories in > out) cause obesity? * Diet culture can hurt kids. This author advises parents to reclaim the word 'fat' 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email：[email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat： CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

本期节目由UPKO赞助播出 【聊了什么The What】 A24最新大热剧集「怒呛人生」aka ”Beef“讲述的是两名陌生人在各自人生的低谷因一起路怒事件结下了梁子，在一系列逐渐升级的复仇之后犹如镜子般映照出彼此的最我毁灭。这部剧在中国互联网上大受好评，引发一系列对于东亚原生家庭中的”心理债务“以及男弱女强的婚姻关系的讨论。然而在北美，韩裔艺术家David Choe的性侵言论争议让这部口碑极佳的剧集蒙上一层阴影。 In this episode, we are talking about A24's latest hit show "Beef," how it serves up Asian American fury, discuss intergenerational trauma, power dynamic and class differences within a marriage, and the limitation of therapy. We also discuss the controversy over David Choe, who plays Issac in the show. 本节目有关于性的提及，请酌情收听。This episode is explicit in every way. Please listen with caution. ALSO, MAJOR SPOILER ALERT! 剧透警告！！ 【时间轴 The When】 * 0:00-9:22 广告时间：UPKO * 11:30 对《怒呛人生》第一印象 * 15:04 Danny和他的韩裔移民父母对幸福的强烈不信任 * 17:52 Amy和老公George之间的复杂的婚姻关系 * 30:32 Amy和Danny是彼此最无法面对的镜像 * 39:38 剧名Beef：吃掉两人“过节”的牛肉 * 43:36 为什么《怒呛人生》在国内这么火？中国的观众为什么会被如此具体的美国加州亚裔生活经历触动？ * 51:42 Cousin Issac的角色，韩裔美国人在洛杉矶的历史背景 * 58:21 Cousin Issac的选角背后的争议，种族歧视以及有害的男性气质 * 1:09:36 Jordan，脸谱化的白人女富豪 * 1:13:05 魔幻现实主义的元素：土地，浆果，乌鸦 * 1:17:28 请不要关掉音频哦此刻有彩蛋 * 0:00-9:22 Sponsored Ad for UPKO * 11:30 First impressions of Beef * 15:04 Danny and his family's pessimistic view on life * 17:52 Amy and George's situationship * 30:32 Amy and Danny are "divine twins" * 39:38 The meaning behind the name beef * 43:36 Why is Beef so popular in China * 51:42 Cousin Issac and Korean American history in LA * 58:21 The controversial casting of David Choe for Cousin Issac * 1:09:36 Jordan, the token white woman * 1:13:05 Magical realism elements: dirt, psychedelics, and crows * 1:17:28 Don't leave just yet, we have an easter egg for you 【本集嘉宾 The Guests】 烤芬 播客”越烤越糊“主播 【拓展链接 The Links】 David Choe是谁？ 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 🎉【UPKO 听众专属福利】 1. 点击这里跳转，或复制完整链接【19￥qlSBdmSJjPt￥ CZ0001】粉丝优惠，领取专属UPKO天猫旗舰店优惠券，下单直接满减 2. 淘宝搜索【UPKO旗舰店】，私信客服，报暗号【疲惫娇娃】领券下单； 3. 另外！考虑到我们有部分海外听众，海外用户购买可以到upko官网www.upkoofficialshop.com , 下单时使用code【cyberpink】获得20% OFF惊喜折扣。 重要提示！ 1. 淘宝下单时记得一定要私信客服【疲惫娇娃】才能领券哦～ 2. 部分苹果手机是最新系统的听友可能会遇到口令无法跳转的情况，选择第2种方式购买也可以的哦 [image.png] 【以下图为UPKO可爱的小熊礼盒】 [WechatIMG9.jpeg] 祝大家五一劳动节愉快！ 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email：[email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat： CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 我们有很多的词汇描述离开中文世界、中文身份渐渐溶解进全世界的身份里的这种状态——在2023年这个词叫做润。然而烦恼并不会在润出来这个瞬间消失；对于表达者来说，离开母语世界常常意味着需要用新的语言表达自己。我该用什么语言表达？我表达的受众是谁？我该如何立足于离散者的身份，寻找到新的语言？ We have many words to describe this diasporic state of leaving the Chinese-language world and Chinese-language identity behind, gradually dissolving into the identity of a world citizen. In 2023, Chinese pop culture refers to this state as "run" -- running away from one's homeland, running back into the embrace of the mother tongue, constantly on the go and wondering where is home. Leaving home doesn't mean all your troubles cease to exist. For creators, leaving behind the world of one's mother tongue often means the need to find a new language to express themselves fully. What language should I use? Who's my audience, now that I myself am caught between worlds? How should I lean into this new identity of a displaced person who's now a part of the diaspora community, and find a new language? 【本集嘉宾 The Guests】 林东尼 Tony Lin, Twitter @tony_zy 【时间轴 The When】 * 02:00 自我介绍，对离散身份产生认同感的心路历程 * 13:50 了解离散身份的历史厚度以及对创作的影响 * 29:00 离散创作者面临什么样的挑战 * 38:00 我们该如何找到观众？离散群体创作的对象是谁？为什么诚实尤其重要？ * 44:30 托尼的清迈创作空间 * 01:05:00 对创作者的建议 * 02:00 Guests' self-introduction and their personal journey of identifying with the diaspora * 13:50 Understanding the historical depth of diasporic identity and its influence on creative work * 29:00 Challenges faced by diasporic creators * 38:00 How do we find our audience? Who is the target audience for diasporic creative work? Why is authenticity particularly important? * 44:30 Tony's creative space in Chiang Mai * 01:05:00 Advice for creators 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email：[email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat： CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 我们最近对HBO制作的游戏改编电视剧《最后生还者》十分着迷，于是果断邀请我们的好朋友Sophia一起来深入探讨这个制作精良的节目。其中一个很大的主题就是，爱是否可以征服一切？在世界末日之下，是什么支撑着男女主角活下去？ 在此有大型剧透警告：我们将深入讨论剧情和比较有争议的大结局，所以如果还没有去看剧的请先看了再回来听，或者做好被剧透的准备来听我们的安利。 We are obsessed with the video game adaptation TV series by HBO, The Last of Us, and invited our old friend Sophia (screenwriter) to join us in diving into the details of this well-made show. Love is a major theme of the show -- but does it conquer all? Does it forgive all faults? Does the end justify the means? Tune in to find out. Major spoiler alert, we will be discussing several episodes and the ending as well, so this is your reminder to watch the show if you haven't, or be prepared to find out what (controversy) happens at the end. 【时间轴 The When】 * 1:42 游戏改编佳作《最后生还者》剧情简介，（全集）剧透警告 * 4:08 追剧初体验：游戏玩家与普通观众为何都喜欢 * 8:42 第三集：足以载入影史的暖心末日恋情，突破直男壁垒 * 17:41 第五集：Joel和Ellie的镜像人物：哥哥Henry和弟弟Sam，以及世界末日下对孩童的刻画 * 24:57 第七集：Ellie和Riley的懵懂初恋 * 29:18 第八集：Ellie的自我成长 * 34:08 第九集 / 大结局：爱是否可以征服一切？ * 48:36 思想实验：该如何应对世界末日 * 54:15 表扬HBO对于游戏情节细节的致敬 * 57:17 咱们闷骚的爹（daddy变身father）：Pedro Pascal和他的一些趣闻 * 1:42 Plot summary of the game adaptation masterpiece "The Last of Us", major spoiler warning * 4:08 Our initial thoughts: Why gamers and regular viewers alike all love it * 8:42 Episode 3: A heartwarming doomsday love story, breaking through the straight male barrier * 17:41 Episode 5: Joel and Ellie's mirrored characters: siblings Henry and Sam, and the portrayal of children in the post-apocalyptic world * 24:57 Episode 7: Ellie and Riley's innocent first love * 29:18 Episode 8: Ellie's self-growth as a character * 34:08 Episode 9 / Grand Finale: Can love conquer all? * 48:36 Thought experiment: How to approach the end of the world * 54:15 Praising HBO's tribute to the game plot details * 57:17 Our beloved "daddy" becomes a "father": Pedro Pascal and anecdotes 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email：[email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat： CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 上周第95届奥斯卡颁奖典礼上，我们喜爱的《瞬息全宇宙》几乎横扫所有被提名的奖项，一举拿下最佳影片，最佳导演，最佳女主角，最佳男配角，最佳女配角等奖项。本次奥斯卡提名作品总体水平中规中矩，也没有什么特别引人注目的表现，我们给大家一笔带过介绍一下。本期节目的重点讨论是横扫奥斯卡大奖的电影——《瞬息全宇宙》。除了该电影夺奖的情况，我们还讨论了它背后普遍共享的情感主题（人与父母之间的关系），电影如何紧扣时代脉搏，以及关继威和杨紫琼的职业生涯。多谢大家收听！ "Everything Everywhere All At Once" swept the 95th Academy Awards last week. In this episode, we break down the universal themes behind the movie, why it's considered a zeitgeist of our times, as well as the career trajectory of Ke Huy Quan and Michelle Yeoh. We also briefly discuss other Oscars frontrunner nominees, and why we haven't watched most of them. 【时间轴 The When】 * 1:07 看了和没有看的第95届奥斯卡提名作品：《造梦之家》，《达荷美女战士》，《壮志凌云2：独行侠》 ，《鲸鱼》，《伊尼舍林的报丧女妖》 * 16:52 非常不“好莱坞”的《瞬息全宇宙》横扫奥斯卡背后普遍共享的情感：人与父母的关系 * 26:31《瞬息全宇宙》如何紧扣时代脉搏 * 34:53 关继威和杨紫琼的职业生涯回顾 * 1:07 Front runners of the 95th Oscars nominees: The Fabelmans, Woman King, Top Gun: Maverick, The Whale, Banshees of Inisherin * 16:52 The universal sentiment behind family relationships and how EEAAO swept the Oscars * 26:31 EEAAO as the zeitgeist movie of the year * 34:53 The story of Ke Huy Quan and Michelle Yeoh 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email：[email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat： CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 本期节目由大人糖赞助播出 【聊了什么The What】 「白莲花度假村」 White Lotus 2是今年呼声最大的剧集之一，引发了无数中英文关于人性幽微、性与权力、表演性女权主义者等等问题的思考和讨论。这次我们和神交很久的好朋友Hayami聊了这部剧集。 White Lotus 2 is one of the most popular dramas of the year, sparking countless think pieces and discussions in both English and Chinese about class, about the nuanced power dynamics in relationships, sex and desire. In this episode, we invited our friend Hayami to talk about how the series was received in China and the U.S. 【时间轴 The When】 0 - 8:50 大人糖产品广告时间 10:30「白莲花度假村」的群像戏和人物简介 15:00 Ethan和Harper之间的权力/性关系 20:40 Ethan和Cameron之间的同性竞争，隐隐的较量，和勾心斗角 27:00 深挖Harper这个女性人物 29:35 深挖小助理角色 36:40 Tonya的悲剧 48:00 又迷人又天真且从未作恶的“妓女”？ 57:00 意大利爷爷父子三代人是在逐代变好吗？ 59:40 男性们的“女性主义”表演时刻 0 - 8:50 Commercial 10:30 Group scenes and character profiles in "White Lotus 2" 15:00 The power dynamics within Ethan and Harper's relationship 20:40 The toxic "male camaraderie," jealousy and hidden rivalry between Ethan and Cameron 27:00 Digging deeper into Harper‘s character 29:35 Why do we dislike Portia so much? 36:40 Tanya's Tragedy 48:00 The charming, innocent, and not-real female characters: Mia and Lucia 57:00 Are the three generations of men getting better at respecting women? 59:40 Virtual signalling and performing being a "feminist" 🎉「听众专属福利」 对大人糖产品感兴趣的朋友们，可通过以下2种方式获得专属优惠，逗豆鸟和小海豹原价359元，领券后到手价299元，备注还可额外赠送158元大礼包，早买早享受，具体有什么可以点击链接查看详情哦✌️ 1⃣️点击这里（https://market.m.taobao.com/app/tb-source-app/shopact/pages/index?wh_weex=true&pathInfo=shop/activity&userId=2207279521660&shopId=590584953&pageId=370417957&alisite=true）跳转或复制口令【98￥OrzxdjQ2PXg￥】领专属优惠券，下单直接满减 2⃣️淘宝搜索【大人糖旗舰店】，私信客服，报暗号【疲惫娇娃】领券下单 重要提示！ 1、下单时记得一定要备注【疲惫娇娃】才会随单一起送出礼包哦 2、部分苹果手机是最新系统的听友可能会遇到口令无法跳转的情况，选择第2种方式购买也可以的哦 另外！考虑到我们有部分海外听众，也可通过点击➡️（https://go.osuga.com/3mNV2uf），下单输入优惠码【疲惫娇娃40】可立减40刀，但到手价格&优惠政策与国内不同享，有需要的朋友们可以自由选择啦～ [adf8d981fd80cab39bd108f0f1cf0465.jpg] Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 在准备这期节目的时候，我问ChatGPT：“如果我是梁文道，会向OpenAI的创始人提出哪些问题？” ChatGPT给我的回答是：“面对着一个迅速变化的时代，我们应该如何去面对这种变化？作为一个人，我们应该如何保持自己的独特性和真实性，同时又能够适应这个变化的时代？” 或许许多人已经隐隐的感觉到，AI的技术可能会对我们的生活带来翻天覆地的变化；这种变化既让人兴奋又让人感到隐隐的不安。这期节目，我们和每天试图玩坏GPT的研究者小马、投身GPT淘金热的Y Combinator创业者小蒋、尝试把GPT带入新闻公司的媒体人小华一起聊了聊人工智能技术在过去一年给我们的启发、冲击和思考。 I asked ChatGPTto draft me a few questions to OpenAI in the style of Leung Man-tao, and it responded with - "In the face of a rapidly changing era, how do we adapt to these changes while maintaining humanity's uniqueness and authenticity? And how do we deal with the changes brought about by AI technology?" I like this question. Perhaps you are already feeling the revolutionary changes AI might bring in our lives, an equally exciting and unsettling era to be in. In this episode, we talked to a researcher, a founder and a journalist about the inspiration, impact, and reflections that AI has brought us over the past year. 【时间轴 The When】 * 02:00 给大家表演一个分角色朗读课文 Kevin Roose and his mid-night chat with “Sydney” * 13:44 我们生活中在如何使用GPT：找选题，产品文档，搞艺术 How we use GPT in our daily lives: brainstorming, writing product documents, creating art. * 28:30 AI为什么会“瞎编”、为什么用户可以很容易的玩坏GPT Why does AI "make up" things, and why can users easily manipulate GPT? * 40:13 为什么大型语言模型会展示出某种价值观？AI的价值观会反过来影响人类吗？Why do large language models exhibit certain values and ideologies? Will the values of AI in turn affect humans? * 52:30 我们会把记者、医生、律师甚至统治国家都交给AI吗？Will we entrust reporters, doctors, lawyers, or even governing nations to AI? 【拓展链接 The Links】 我们提到的一些文章和作品： 小蒋的创业项目：https://www.monterey.ai/ The Gentle Seduction：https://eyeofmidas.com/scifi/Stiegler_GentleSeduction.pdf 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email：[email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat： CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 疲惫娇娃们又录一期没有任何实质内容，只有氛围的播客……希望大家听完以后什么都没学到。 快要忘记播客名字的几个女的在冬日聚在一起，聊了最近我们的“上头下头”和人生感悟。 从喜剧演员给我们的人生启蒙，再到古埃及历史，到《最后的生还者》，再讲到人生…… 【时间轴 The When】 * 01:37 一芳的上头，「最后的生还者」 * 12:30 花酱的上头，「最后的生还者」 * 20:00 小蓝的上头，「一年一度喜剧大赛」 * 37:00 一段小蓝的中年领悟 * 44:00 我们为什么不再“质疑他人的选择” * 48:00 小杨的上头：NBA bench reaction * 01:37 Yifang's recent obsession: The Last of Us * 12:30 Hana-chan's recent obsession: The Last of Us * 20:00 Xiaolan's recent obsession: Annual Comedy Competition * 37:00 A mid-life epiphany of Xiaolan * 44:00 Why we don't challenge other people's choices anymore * 48:00 Xiao Yang's recent obsession: NBA bench reaction 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China：https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email：[email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat： CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助