【聊了什么The What】 《可怜的东西》是一部关于剥削与女性命运的丰富、引人深思、扭曲的成长故事。在跟随好奇而大胆的主角贝拉·巴克斯特的两个小时里，我们闯入了贝拉的生活中，同时收获了一种“有益的混乱”——能够帮助我们理解了一系列复杂的问题：在一个企图界定和限制女性的世界里寻求女性自主权，性工作作为一种艰苦、剥削性质的劳动，以及在某种程度上，生物黑客技术和CRISPR伦理问题。 Poor Things is a juicy, chewy, twisted coming-of-age fable about exploitation and womanhood. The two hours we spent following the curious, bold protagonist Balla Baxter provided a helpful chaos for us to metabolize an array of complex problems: the pursuit of female autonomy in a world seeking to define and confine it, the nature of sex work as gritty, exploitative labor, and, at some point, the ethics of biohacking and CRISPR. 【时间轴 The When】 00:00 今年颁奖季的宠儿Poor Things以及为什么我们要重新录制这集播客 04:04 我们对于这个电影的第一感受 10:10 “成熟女人的身体与婴儿的心智“——为什么我们对于Bella的担心程度随着她的旅程展开而忽上忽下？ 13:45 Poor Things是一部彻底翻转过来的《洛丽塔》？ 23:40 (假装我们在聊这部电影）电影的设定导致我们去思考了文本中复杂的性同意 35:47 Poor Things的科幻设定——人类为何恐惧技术？Bella是一个关于AI的角色（？？？），科学设定和伦理困境 45:30 我们对于现有科技以及特权人群改造人体的探讨 51:12 从事性工作的Bella和她的劳工意识觉醒 01:06:55 Bella弑父，和父亲和解，最后“变成父亲”的旅程 00:00 Poor Things - This awards season's darling - and why we're re-recording this podcast 04:04 Our first impressions of the film 10:10 "A mature woman's body with an infant's mind" - Why do our concerns over Bella fluctuate throughout her journey? 13:45 Is Poor Things a thoroughly inverted Lolita? 23:40 (Pretending we're discussing the film) - How the storyline prompts pondering complex consent ethics within the text 35:47 Poor Things' sci-fi premise - Why does technology unnerve humanity? Is Bella an allegory for AI (?) - scientific concepts and ethical dilemmas 45:30 Our exploration of current technologies and how privileged groups alter human bodies 51:12 Bella's awakened labor consciousness after entering sex work 01:06:55 Bella's patricide, reconciliation with her father, and eventual symbolic rebirth as her father 【拓展链接 The Links】 https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5149/9781469661940_berg https://www.thelancet.com/series/HIV-and-sex-workers https://www.thecut.com/2014/01/qa-the-woman-debunking-myths-about-sex-work.html https://pwd.org.au/sex-work-and-the-ndis-frequently-asked-questions/ 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 疲惫娇娃的一季度一次的"氛围检查"aka闲聊节目又来了。从庆祝人生的某些瞬间，到对于婚礼各种细节的选择和对”物品“之间的拧巴关系，再到”怎么才能好好玩“，再到“最近上头下头是啥”，我们又絮絮叨叨聊了一个半小时。 In our quarterly “vibe check” tradition aka rambling chatfest, the CyberPink girls back to dive shallow(ish) once more. We hit the full life spectrum - from celebrating magical moments, untangling our love/hate with things (to Marie Kondos’s delight/chagrin), pondering how to properly “adult”...to spiraling into ‘what’s trending hot and not’ before emerging somehow wiser. Or at least blissfully 90 minutes older. 【时间轴 The When】 01:15 浅浅开头，这集播客我们基本上都在闲聊，如果你想听干货的话这期并没有 02:20 我们各自的焦虑梦 05:50 过去一年没发生什么大事，然后小蓝突然随便结了个婚 08:20 花酱对于小蓝的婚礼上"礼乐”的理解 14:20 小蓝在写婚礼誓词的心路过程 19:25 我们如何解读“结婚”? 如何庆祝一个人的存在？ 37:00 一芳的登基故事和一场回门宴引发的地缘政治事件 54:40 我们最近的上头和下头 1:16:00 活着就是挣点钱然后再去玩 00:15 Super casual open - this episode is all about random banter 02:20 Each sharing anxiety dreams plaguing our sleep/nap 05:50 The past year = no major events really...except Xiaolan randomly threw a wedding?! 08:20 Hana-chan interprets wedding ceremony “rituals” 14:20 Xiaolan details her agonizing vow-drafting journey 19:25 How we each approach/view “marriage” 37:00 Yifang's "enthronement" story...includes the "geo-political" drama at a wedding (!!) 54:40 Our latest addictions/obsessions 01:16:00 let's earn some $ then go play? 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 2023年末，疲惫娇娃又与友台不合时宜录制了一期“不时疲惫”，与大家分享一些2023年我们不愿意透露的脆弱时刻。我们围坐在一起，聊起过去一年中各自独自在黑夜与灵魂对视的脆弱瞬间、无法解开的心结、尚未获得疗愈的创伤。希望你听到这期节目能够收获一些力量。大家新年快乐。 As the ball is about to drop to ring in 2024, CyberPink joined up with our comrades to put together another episode — a raw confessional session airing those vulnerabilities from the past year that we’d rather keep under wraps. We gathered round, spinning yarns into the wee hours about our solitary moments of fragility over months past, staring into the abyss of our souls as darkness enveloped us; the lingering emotional baggage yet to be reconciled and wounds still laid bare for all to see. And cheers to a bright new year ahead, friends. 【时间轴 The When】 （本次时间轴文案由不合时宜提供） 01:35 这期节目的由来：不时疲惫一相聚，都会jam出一集节目；而这期节目关于脆弱和痛苦 03:34 第一次去做心理咨询，心路历程经历了什么变化? 10:43 当一段亲密关系逝去以后，“我”的一部分似乎被带走 14:17 跟父母的关系——遥远又亲近 22:28 埋藏在你的成长经历当中的基底，确实形塑了你是什么样的一个人 36:45 和黑暗的情绪共处时，你用什么方式拉自己出来？ 52:33 因为ego的保护，自己可能看不到一些真相 01:01:28 现代人的情绪问题不是一个个体的现象，而是集体性、社会性的现象 01:04:12 在“钱越花越有”的口号下，人人向往模板化的生活，遮蔽了内心真正的追寻 01:09:57 为什么身心灵吸引了那么多女性,这是女权的失败吗? 01:15:13 如何理解宗教对现代社会的作用? 01:25:32 在活着以外，还能做一些正向的事情,就已经额外再创造意义了 01:30:16 如何平衡、界定EGO和自我主体? 01:35 we reunited and had this soulful discussions flow, as in this episode pondering vulnerability and anguish 03:34 One's inaugural therapy session - an intense inner reckoning 10:43 As intimacy dissolves, the lingering sense of losing part of oneself 14:17 Bonds with our parents - profoundly close yet distant 22:28 How the cornerstones of our formative years shape the essence of our identities 36:45 Battling melancholy moods - drawing one's psyche toward sanguinity 52:33 Does ego shield us from difficult self-truths? 01:01:28 Emotional malaise today is not merely personal but shared collective discontent 01:04:12 The compulsion to believe in “the more you consume, the more you have” obscures genuine inner purpose 01:09:57 Why does self-care retain feminine coding - a patriarchal relic? 01:15:13 Can religion still sustain modern life's demands? 01:30:16 Reconciling ego and selfhood - a perpetual undertaking 【拓展链接 The Links】 Gift from the Sea by Anne Morrow Lindbergh 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 有人说Bottoms 垫底俱乐部是一部高校性转版的《搏击俱乐部》，但其实远远不止如此。它荒诞离奇，充满暴力和一些隐藏的不算太深的讽刺和哲思，是适合我们这个时代的美国高校喜剧电影。 故事围绕着Josie和PJ这一对好友展开，她们是这所美国高中食物链的底层，不只是因为她们是拉拉，而是用她们自己的话来说：“gay，ugly and untalented”。在高三毕业前的最后一年这对好友决心突破自己，互为僚机泡到全校最受欢迎的拉拉队队员，而她们达成目标的方式就是阴差阳错组建了这个高中第一个女子搏击俱乐部。 这一期，小蓝和四位酷儿/Gen Z/Older Millennial朋友们，也是一档全新的女权喜剧播客《大波福娃》的主播们，一起聊了聊这部酷儿青少年校园“发烧梦”。 Some say "Bottoms" is a high-school-themed, gender-flipped version of "Fight Club," but it's far more than that. It's a bizarre and whimsical journey, filled with violence and some blazen satire and not-so-subtle philosophical musings— a perfect update of the high school comedy genre fit for our times. The story revolves around Josie and PJ, a dynamic duo situated at the bottom rung of the American high school social ladder. Their struggles extend beyond being lesbians; in their own words, they're "gay, ugly, and untalented." In their final year before graduating high school, this determined pair sets out to break free from their constraints to date the two most popular cheerleaders in the school. Their unconventional method? Accidentally forming the first all-female fight club in the high school. In this episode, Xiaolan and her four queer/Gen Z/Older Millennial friends, who are the hosts of the brand-new feminist comedy podcast "Dat Beauvoir," convene to chat about this queer teenage "fever dream." 本期参与录制的有： * 桃子（she/her）：一个还没出道就隐退了的业余脱口秀演员，精通捆粽子和翻花绳 * 跑跑（they/them）：工匠/小丑/人民教师/高科技亚逼（消歧义），尊重且热爱谐音梗，老龄 Z 世代。 * 小苕 (it/its)：一颗零零后坡塔头，咖喱牛腩里的薯仔，地三鲜里的土豆 * Nancy (she/her)：惨惨的博士僧，是一个older millennial中年人 * Sis Peach (she/her): I have a Golden retriever, a plush dog with an imaginary ESA vest. * Runrun (they/them): local shop tech / clown / adjunct / computer beep boops, pun always intended. * Shao (it/its): A potato with Chinese characteristics. Can’t be fried or smashed. * Nancy (she/her): a struggling PhD, older millennial 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:00 对电影的初印象：高校性转版的《搏击俱乐部》? * 10:46 电影里的主要女性角色 * 33:51 时空错乱美学：Y2K的视觉叠加在2023年的观念上 * 43:30 美国高校电影和我们的酷儿启蒙 * 54:48 为什么这部电影里的暴力如此令人心旷神怡（？） * 01:15:54 这个电影吃了几个性别研究博士生？ * 01:32:58 今夏其他破破烂烂间歇发疯但是歌颂暖心女性友谊的喜剧电影 * 00:00 Initial Impressions of the Movie: A Gender-Swap High School Version of "Fight Club"? * 10:46 Deep dive on our favorite characters * 33:51 Aesthetic of Temporal Disarray: Y2K Visuals Superimposed on 2023 Concepts * 43:30 American High School Movies and Our Queer Enlightenment * 54:48 Why the Violence in This Movie is So Delightfully Liberating (?) * 01:15:54 This Film is a Gender Studies Love Fest * 01:32:58 Other Ragged, Intermittently Insane, Yet Heartwarming Comedies Celebrating Female Friendship This Summer 【拓展链接 The Links】 大波福娃 ‘Bottoms’ Review: Physical Education Getting So High That You Think You’re Going to Die - Ayo Edebiri - Taking the Stage Sabrina Wu - Hot Girl Impression 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

本期节目已入选豆瓣播客2024新春精选推荐活动，欢迎大家到豆瓣收听！ 【聊了什么The What】 无论你是Taylor Swift的忠实粉丝还是普通路人，你肯定听说过这位美国女歌手，以及她从出道以来经历的不同的“eras”（时代）对流行文化的影响。 从她高中时期固化女性形象“You belong with me”的时代，2009年金融危机后被Kanye羞辱的”受害者公主“时代，2010年中期的时代金发红裙维密秀上的时代，再到2023年她开启的全美巡演撬动几十亿美元经济活动的”eras”时代。 这期疲惫娇娃，我们以Taylor Swift在2023年的演唱会名字“Eras”为主题，回顾她2008年初出茅庐再到2023成为定义时代的流行巨星的一路。无论是循环播放她的歌，还是将她作为流行文化的符号来去深入研究，我们都在人生的不同阶段和Taylor Swift交织。每一个Taylor的时代都能让我们回溯到过去十五年的某一种人生状态，唤起一些根深蒂固的回忆和情绪。本期节目中我们深入挖掘她多年来的各种造型，职业生涯变革的颁奖典礼时刻，与其他巨星的争执以及她的音乐——并探讨这些主题如何与我们自己的成长紧密相连，以及过去十五年“女性”作为一个集体意识是如何进化和蜕变。 Whether you’re a die-hard Swiftie or just a regular person who’s not into her songs, there’s no denying the grip that Ms. Taylor Swift has had on American pop culture since her debut in 2006. In her most recent “Eras” tour, which generated roughly $5 Billion USD for the US economy, Taylor Swift walks the audience through her many eras: the hopeless romantic princess in sparkly dresses in “You Belong With Me,” who then fell from her pumpkin carriage and claimed victimhood after Kanye’s public humiliation of her in 2009; clapping back at critics and experimenting musically with “Red;” embracing her "girl squad" of famous friends and cementing her spot as a pop culture icon with “1989;” her villainelle era with “Reputation;” and taking quaratining at home to the next level by embracing cottagecore with “Folklore” and “Evermore” during the pandemic. In this episode of CyberPink, we take a look at how different stages of our own lives intersect with Taylor Swift’s eras and how we interacted with her – whether it’s through passionately listening to her songs on repeat, reciting the lyrics, or simply studying her as a pop culture artifact and what her popularity means from an anthropological perspective. Each Taylor era evokes memories and emotions that allow us to revisit a moment somewhere in the last fifteen years. So join us as we dive deep into her many looks through the years, career-changing award show moments, feuds with other mega stars, and her music – and explore how the themes intricately intertwined with our own growth, and the evolution of what it means to be a modern woman. 【时间轴 The When】 * 03:00 Fearless Era：来自纳什维尔的邻家女孩和我们的青春期 * 22:29 在2009年MTV音乐录影带大奖颁奖舞台上，Taylor和Kanye命运的齿轮开始转动 * 37:00 Red Era：流行巨星Taylor同时也是机灵乖巧的”最大公约数女性“ * 42:40 Taylor vs Spotify：改变音乐行业的流媒体 * 50:00 Famous歌词的争议，和2016年前后美国流行文化的大转弯 * 01:09:00 Reputation Era：Taylor的音乐母带和重录争议 * 01:25:05 Midnights Era：Taylor的第十张专辑，为女性和自己创作 * 03:00 Fearless Era: The girl next door from Nashville and our collective coming-of-age * 22:29 On the stage of the 2009 MTV VMAs, the wheels of fate begin to turn for Taylor and Kanye * 37:00 Red Era: Pop superstar Taylor as the clever, well-behaved “common denominator” woman * 42:40 Taylor vs Spotify: When streaming upheaved the music industry * 50:00 The controversial lyrics of “Famous” and America's culture shift around 2016 * 01:09:00 Reputation Era: Debate over Taylor's master recordings and re-recordings * 01:25:05 Midnights Era: Taylor's tenth album, written for all women and herself 【拓展链接 The Links】 我们提到的文章： * For Taylor Swift, the Future of Music Is a Love Story * Tom Hiddleston on Taylor Swift, Heartbreak, and Great Bolognese * Taylor Swift (Acquired’s Version) * Listening to Taylor Swift in Prison 其他参考的内容： * Make the Whole Place Shimmer: America Spends Big for Beyoncé and Taylor Swift * Non-Fungible Taylor Swift * Scooter Braun Makes $300 Million Deal for Big Machine Records * Taylor Swift’s Feud With Scooter Braun Spotlights Musicians’ Struggles to Own Their Work * The unavoidable politics of Taylor Swift * Kanye West Addresses Hip-Hop’s Homophobia In 2005 Interview | MTV News * Can't Shake It Off: How Taylor Swift Became a Nazi Idol * Taylor Swift: The Rolling Stone Interview 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 从荞麦信箱和Reddit上的“Am I the Axxhole”，全世界人类的一大共性就是热衷于观察其他人的“家务事”，并给出自己的判决——You are not the axxhole，为网友的乳腺着想，分手吧。在最琐碎的家务事中，有无数隽永的社会问题和模糊的道德难题；故事随处可见，但把这样的故事讲好又非常难。2023年斩获金棕榈的法国剧情悬疑片《坠楼的审判》就是个中出彩之作。女作家Sandra的丈夫Samuel从他们的家顶楼坠楼离奇死亡，而Sandra成为了最大的嫌疑人。整个故事就围绕着这桩疑似谋杀案的司法调查展开，但被当堂剖析的不只是疑案——Sandra和Samuel之间失败的婚姻，父子、母子和伴侣之间那些心照不宣，无法言说的细微情绪统统被放在法庭上被代表所谓公平正义的律师、法官和看客逐一剥茧抽丝。 If the popularity of the “Am I The A**hole” subreddit and its Chinese equivalence were any indication, we humans really love nothing more than sticking our noses all the way in other people’s family business and passing judgments. But it takes an extraordinarily skilled storyteller to bring out the universal, profound moral struggles embedded in our seemingly mundane, daily life: what does it mean to be understood, even in the most intimate relationships? Can anyone be persuaded? If so, by facts or manipulation? “The Anatomy of a Fall,” which won the Palme d'Or prize at the Cannes Film Festival this year, is an icey, cerebral thriller about a mysterious death and a failed marriage, but also about truth, persuasion, the power of narratives, and all the unspoken love and cruelty within human relationships. 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:00 坠楼的审判是一部“文学”的电影 * 12:14 杀人犯是Sandra吗？ * 23:50 悬疑片外皮下，对于所谓“真相”塑造过程的剖析 * 36:48 站在审判席上的“成功女性”和亲密关系中的权力 * 56:34 Sandra与Samuel的争吵，失权者的绝望 * 00:00 “Anatomy of a Fall” and why do we like literary cinema * 12:14 Did she do it? * 23:50 The court scene, and how we construct “truth” in our relationships * 36:48 The “successful women” on trial and power dynamics in intimate relationships * 56:34 The fight scene, and the despair of the disempowered 【拓展链接 The Links】 * 'Anatomy of a Fall' dissects a marriage and, maybe, a murder * Part of the ‘great resignation’ is actually just mothers forced to leave their jobs 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

本期播客由简单心理特别赞助播出。 【聊了什么The What】 这期我们把Ted Lasso和The Bear这两部剧糅在一起聊， 虽然一部发生在绿茵场上，一部发生在厨房里，但是这两部剧都跟随着相同的故事蓝本——人如何化解创伤，寻找自己？如何在工作和团队中沟通，化解摩擦？ 后疫情时代的2023年，探讨这些角色之间的摩擦和冲突如何被书写，探讨这些角色如何从创伤中恢复，重新找到并定义自己，在一定程度上也是探讨我们自己——我们如何理解自己的情绪？我们如何解读家人、同事、合作者、队友和友人的行为？我们如何在合作中了解自己、在摩擦中建立深厚的连接、在创伤中成长？ 本期嘉宾：Dr. Eileen Cheng-yin Chow 周成蔭 教授 In this episode, we bring together two beloved shows—Ted Lasso and The Bear— to discuss how although one takes place on the football pitch and the other in the kitchen, both follow the same narrative blueprint. How do people resolve trauma and find themselves? How do they communicate and resolve friction at work and in teams? In 2023, the post-pandemic era, we explore how the conflicts between these characters are written, how they recover from trauma, rediscover and redefine themselves. We also explore ourselves to some extent - how do we understand our own emotions? How do we interpret the behaviors of family, colleagues, partners, teammates, and friends? How do we better understand ourselves, build deep connections through frictions, and grow beyond trauma through collaboration? Our guest: Dr. Eileen Cheng-yin Chow 【广告时间 Sponsored Ad】 本期播客由简单心理特别赞助播出。 「简单心理」成立于2014年，是国内领先的心理健康服务平台，在全球117个城市，拥有1500+位优秀的华语心理咨询师，目前已为超过100万人次提供专业的心理健康服务。 线上首次咨询包含3份专业的心理量表，一次50分钟的1v1视频访谈，在结束之后48小时内提供给你一个定制化心理健康方案，包含推荐3位适合的心理咨询师及提供10份以上的自助书/影/音的资料。 在【简单心理公众号】回复【疲惫娇娃】领取专属优惠，券后是269元。 它像是一次全面的“心理体检”，可以帮你有效梳理当前的困扰，高效地定位你在面对的问题，成为你自我探索旅程上迈出的第一步。 在北京/上海的朋友，可以去简单森林体验线下面对面的心理咨询服务。简单森林有面向成人、儿童、青少年、伴侣、家庭不同人群的方向，我们也为大家争取到了350元的优惠券，大家根据自己的实际情况选择。 更多心理服务请搜索🔍APP/公众号「简单心理」 [641af51e5ae1a39f9adc09091f16aec6.JPG] 【时间轴 The When】 0:00 - 06:10 首次心理咨询体验 06:10 Ted Lasso和The Bear的剧情简介: 体育、成长、代际创伤如何被演绎 16:00 为什么我们会爱上银幕上的“神性脸”和小屏幕上的“邻家脸”? 18:45 在阳刚文化中,这两部剧如何处理情绪化以及受创伤的男人,以及邀请观众用显微镜去观察他们的情绪? 23:00 伤害的脚本一遍一遍上演,哀伤不是线性的,代际创伤如何被具体的场景演绎? 29:40 在美国叙事中,移民如何通过劳作转移痛苦? 35:00 Ted Lasso和The Bear中良好的沟通习惯,以及从“根”上开始争吵的现实 40:05 Ted Lasso中的剧情互文——文化冲突和个人创伤 44:58 Ted Lasso如何通过吸纳文学内容来构建一个心理上的”安全空间“,以及为什么我们喜欢看运动故事——连载剧,聚焦当下 52:00 心理治疗如何干预惯性沟通,让你的快乐小狗复活? 59:40 小杨和Eileen关于文化隔阂和心理咨询的故事 1:03:00 焦虑让人上瘾——移民的焦虑存在状态,历史中芝加哥唐人街的底层华人的心理经历 1:09:00 移民的生存状态是一部分的自己生活在过去 1:15:00 我们不磕Carmy和Sydney的原因 1:22:30 女性没有被演出来的中年危机 0:00 - 06:10 - Our first experience of 简单心理 therapy *Sponsored 06:10 - Synopses of Ted Lasso and The Bear: how sports, growth, and intergenerational trauma are portrayed 16:00 - Why do we become enamored with "divine faces" on the big screen and "familiar faces" on the small screen? 18:45 - Within masculine cultures, how are these two shows handling emotional, traumatized men and inviting the audience to observe their emotions microscopically? 23:00 - We see the script of harm play out repeatedly throughout both shows, and we observe how grief is not linear. How do these two shows portray intergenerational trauma through scenes? 29:40 - In the all-American narrative, how do immigrants ease their pain through labor? 35:00 - We discuss effective communication habits in Ted Lasso and The Bear, and the reality of how arguments always start from the “root” 40:05 - Intertextuality in Ted Lasso's plot - cultural conflicts and personal trauma 44:58 - How Ted Lasso constructs a psychological "safe space" by incorporating literary content, and why we enjoy watching sports stories 52:00 - How can going to therapy intervene with our engrained ways of communication and revive one's happy “inner puppy”? 59:40 - Our host Xiao Yang and Guest Eileen's stories on cultural gaps and going to therapy 1:03:00 - Anxiety is addictive - the existential anxiety of immigrants and the psychological experiences of lower-class Chinese immigrants in Chicago's Chinatown (history lesson time) 1:09:00 - To survive, immigrants are always partially living in the past 1:15:00 - Why we don't romanticize Carmy and Sydney's relationship 1:22:30 - There’s not enough portrayal of women going through mid-life crises on the big or small screen 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun, and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 立秋是万物复苏的季节，这意味着闲聊节目又来啦！ 我们在这个夏天结束、秋天开始的季节也支棱了一下，设计了一封问卷，想借这个机会了解一下大家。问卷中也搜集上来了很多大家想要问我们的问题，我们选了一些在这期节目中回答。这封问卷会作为一个信箱保持开放，每一封收回来的问卷我们都会读！如果大家对我们有什么问题和建议，都可以通过问卷丢给我们，也可以给[email protected]发邮件。 Happy pumpkin spice latte season! We like season changes, because it means we get to record our seasonal vibe check episodes. A couple of weeks ago out of a burst of productivity we shipped a survey to get to know yall better, which includes an AMA section where we collected all of your simmering questions. We had so much fun reading the responses (keep’em coming!!), and decided to break out the mailbox for an AMA episode! The survey will stay open, we read every entry religiously, so consider that a way to let us know about your questions, concerns, thoughts, anything you would like us to know. You can also email us at [email protected]. 【时间轴 The When】 * 01:20 “如果读phd的话想要读什么专业？” * 14:21 “好奇几位主播平时喜欢听什么音乐类型呀，走路或者休息的时候会听什么呢？” * 24:02 “想问问各位主播的书单” / “主播们是怎么能找到那么多好看的影视作品的？” * 50:09 “近期生活里有哪些新经验，或者新尝试，感觉如何？” * 01:06:59 “想知道每位主播最欣赏另外三位的什么？” * 01:20 "What major would you want to study if you were to pursue a Ph.D.?" * 14:21 “I'm curious about what types of music you usually like to listen to. What do you listen to when walking or resting?” * 24:02 “I want to ask about the reading lists of each host." / "How do the hosts manage to find so many good films and TV shows?” * 50:09 “What are some new experiences or trials you've had recently in life, and how do you feel about them?” * 01:06:59 “I want to know what each host most admires about the other three hosts” 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 准备这期节目的时候，我脑子里一直出现西班牙艺术家弗朗西斯科·戈雅的的一副版画——《怪物诞生于理性的梦中》。在一定程度上，奥本海默讲述的就是这样的一个故事：人类在打开潘多拉的盒子、把公式里隐藏的魔法释放到人间，却无法控制释放出来的东西。年初ChatGPT出现的时候，许多人开始担心人类是否面临着另一个“奥本海默时刻”、是否释放了另一个可能毁灭我们自己的怪物？而对另一些人来说，沉湎于科幻般的未来本身就是值得批判的。 这期节目，我们继续这场关于电影《奥本海默》的对话。在这一集中我们讨论了钱学森的一生，与奥本海默自己的故事作了平行对比，探讨了由科学开放性与国家忠诚之间的张力引发的伦理问题，并探讨了我们自己对“AI末日论”的看法。 In preparing this episode, my mind kept going back to a print by the Spanish artist Francisco Goya – The Dream of Reason Produces Monsters. Its themes resonate eerily with the moral complexities of Oppenheimer – a man haunted by the monster he dreamed into reality. When ChatGPT went live earlier this year, many people started asking – does humanity face another Oppenheimer moment? Did we unleash another monster? – and many others started to find that question itself distracting, or even dangerous. As we delve into the second installment of our conversation on Oppenheimer, this episode also shines a spotlight on Qian Xuesen's life, drawing parallels with Oppenheimer's own story. We probe the ethical issues arising from the dichotomy between scientific openness and national allegiance, and unpack the burgeoning anxiety around an so-called AI apocalypse. 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:00 钱学森和奥本海默人生的平行与交错 * 10:34 科学家身份与国族身份之间的张力 * 26:07 我们该如何讲述原子弹的故事 * 35:09 “人工智能”是下一个原子弹吗？ * 00:00 The Parallels and Intersections in the Lives of Qian Xuesen and Oppenheimer * 10:34 The Tension Between Scientific Identity and National Identity * 26:07 How Should We Narrate the Story of the Atomic Bomb? * 35:09 Are we facing another Oppenheimer moment? 【拓展链接 The Links】 * Our Oppenheimer Moment: The Creation of A.I. Weapons * Oppenheimer and After * Ordinary Notes * Copenhagen * HSS at the Movies 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 「念奴娇·昆仑」里有这样的诗词，仿佛让我们看到了平地而起的蘑菇云，和原子弹之父奥本海默面对广袤的新墨西哥州的沙漠的剪影： 横空出世，莽昆仑，阅尽人间春色。 飞起玉龙三百万，搅得周天寒彻。 夏日消溶，江河横溢，人或为鱼鳖。 千秋功罪，谁人曾与评说？ 从1945年原子弹爆炸的那一刻起，人类已经在原子弹威胁阴影之下生活了八十年；而对于它千古功罪的“评说”从未停止。这个夏天，导演克里斯托弗·诺兰为我们呈上了新的作品《奥本海默》，讲述了原子弹之父复杂和不为人知的人生，原子弹和他的创造者的故事被一起投射到了70mm的IMAX巨幕上，我们也穿越诺兰的镜头，看到了奥本海默与原子弹的纠葛——然而这部电影对于许多话题选择了缄默。 疲惫娇娃邀请来两位前物理学家——前高能理论物理学家赵智沉和前实验粒子物理学家程扬扬——参与了一场长达两小时的对话，并剪辑成上下两集呈现给大家。在第一部分中，我们反思了电影的叙事选择和视觉语言，揭示了核历史中被隐藏和被埋葬的许多角色——原住民、女性、被殖民的国家和国民、原子弹的受害者们。同时我们也从核武器的历史角度展开，探讨了他们的科学背景如何塑造他们对这一令人难忘的电影体验的独特视角。 How do you even begin to tell the story of the Atomic bomb, when humanity split the atom out of wartime desperation, and finally created the ability to destroy ourselves? For eight decades, we've lived in its looming shadow, a tool of annihilation that has redefined global geopolitics and provoked existential inquiries that span generations. It takes a filmmaker like Christopher Nolan to project it onto the grand canvas of a 70mm IMAX screen. Enter 'Oppenheimer,' this summer's epic blockbuster. To discuss the film, two former physicists - Zhao Zhichen, a former theoretical physicist, and Cheng Yangyang, an experimental particle physicist - engaged in a two-hour conversation to unpack the summer epic blockbuster Oppenheimer. In the first part, we reflect on the narrative choices and visual language of the film, uncovering many overlooked figures in nuclear history - indigenous peoples, women, colonized nations and citizens, victims of the bomb. We also explore how their backgrounds in nuclear physics inform their unique perspectives on this memorable cinematic experience. 【时间轴 The When】 * 02: 37 安利节目：属于我们社群的一档关于美国政治新闻的播客『美轮美换』上线啦！ * 03: 30 「奥本海默」第一观影印象 * 15: 00 电影采用了哪种叙事、忽视了哪些人物？ * 24: 05 电影中被抹去的人 —- 受害者，女性，原住民 * 25: 50 原子弹的解脱视角是什么？为什么标志性的“蘑菇云”这个视角有问题？ * 39: 30 如果物理学有一种旋律，这个旋律在物理学家二种听起来是什么样的？ * 46: 25 物理学家所研究的东西，无论是庞大微小还是抽象，在多大程度上影响了ta们看待世界的方式？ * 02:37 - Show highlight: Our friends' US politics podcast "美轮美换" is live! * 03:30 - First impressions of "Oppenheimer" * 15:00 - What narrative techniques does the film use, and whose stories does it overlook? Nolan's "overreach" and contradictions * 24:05 - Who is erased from the film – the victims of atomic bomb, the women, and the indigenous people * 25:50 - What is the redemptive perspective on the atomic bomb? Why is the iconic "mushroom cloud" visual problematic? * 39:30 - If physics has a tune, what does that music sound like to physicists? * 46:25 - To what extent does the scale and abstraction of their research shape physicists' worldviews? 【拓展链接 The Links】 * Our Oppenheimer Moment: The Creation of A.I. Weapons * Oppenheimer and After * Ordinary Notes * Copenhagen * HSS at the Movies 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 Barbie是一部不需要介绍的电影。 从女性主义导演Greta Gerwig决定接受Barbie电影拍摄的那天起，疲惫娇娃的集体直觉就告诉我们，这部电影将会是一个和我们——作为女性创作者和评论者——不断交织的重要作品：它是我们在当下需要的文本，它是一部需要被拍出来、需要被我们看到、被我们被讨论的电影。电影中最核心的议题也是我们在这么多年以来关注和参与议题；电影对男权社会的戏谑和抛梗、对现实的无奈和失望、对女性自身的矛盾冲突、对于“个人觉醒”的描写，都映射出我们一路走来歪歪扭扭的足迹。这串足迹是集体的，也是个人的。 如果说看Barbie电影是场集体行为，参与它的程度从“狂欢”到“郑重”是一个延续的光谱，那么我们试图去参与这个光谱的每一段。芭比上映当天，拥抱粉色夏日的轻松和充满荧光色的芭比式的快乐；看完芭比之后，不断地回忆情节，阅读历史，阅读影评，自省，录制播客。这场夏天袭来的粉红色风暴让我们录制了一起很长的播客，我们聊了很多很多。 “Barbie” needs no introduction. From the moment acclaimed feminist filmmaker Greta Gerwig took the helm of this project, the CyberPink team has intuited that this film would resonate deeply with us—as women content creators peering into pop culture. Barbie is the movie we need right now—one destined to be made, seen, and discussed by a new generation of women who experienced this cultural icon in our own ways. Its central themes echo our longtime theses: gender power dynamics, women’s role in society, the conflicts we grapple with, and paths to self-actualization. Through clever satire of patriarchal tropes, raw disappointment with the real world, surprisingly sharp critiques of the tensions women face, and an arc of personal awakening, Barbie reflects our collective zig-zagging journey. For us, watching Barbie is a communal experience, spanning a spectrum from playful reverie to solemn rumination. On the opening day, we reveled in the gleeful pink fever dream of Barbie. Then came endless rehashing of plotlines, contextual research, reviews, introspection, and of course, culminating in this podcast episode that unpacks it all. This pink storm led to an epic 2-and-half-hour recording session. The film resonates as both a cultural touchstone and an opportunity for personal reflections —an instant classic to savor alone and together. 【时间轴 The When】 * 01:53 Barbie不只是一部电影，是今夏一个席卷全球的文化现象 * 05:35 疲惫芭比们在布鲁克林的观影体验：扮演女性气质 * 11:25 这部芭比大IP是如何被拍出来的？ * 16:41 我们最喜欢的电影情节/场景：真实的虚假、群Ken乱舞 * 24:05 芭比世界里的男性角色以及电影对男性气质的刻画和调侃 * 38:02 芭比的历史包袱：隐含颠覆意味的“永恒女性“ * 45:48 当我们用第三波女权主义的视角纳米级审视1960年代孕育出来的商业产物 * 47:55 展开讲讲肯娃娃这个邻家肌肉男形象是怎么被创造出来的 * 50:22 芭比作为一个产品和文化符号有哪些时代限制？ * 54:03 芭比与身材焦虑——腰究竟为什么这么细？ * 56:50 我们的成长过程中，芭比扮演过什么样的角色 * 1:09:00 芭比的本质，芭比的存在，一定就是反女性主义的吗? * 1:12:56 被导演Greta Gerwig重塑了的芭比是不是成了消费主义的“女权买办”？ * 1:25:56 我们纷纷离开了Barbieland，然后呢？ * 1:34:24 我们能否允许普通芭比的存在？（疲惫娇娃或成最大赢家？ * 01:53 “Barbie” is not just a movie, it’s the global cultural phenomenon of this summer * 05:35 Our own experience watching Barbie in New York, dressing up as Barbie as “drag” * 11:25 How did this movie come about? The push and pull between Mattel, Margot Robbie, and Greta Gerwig * 16:41 Our favorite scenes from the movie: Barbieland, the Ken dance * 24:05 How the movie portrays and pokes fun at masculinity — Ken, Allen, and Mattel executives * 38:02 Barbie’s historical baggage and her role as “the forever woman” * 45:48 Scrutinizing Barbie with today’s values * 47:55 How did Ken get invented? What happened with his “bump” * 50:22 Barbie’s limitation as a commercial product and her role in cultural commentary * 54:03 Barbie has the body of that of a drag queen; Barbie and body image anxiety * 56:50 What role did Barbie play in the lives of CyberPink hosts as girls growing up in China in the 90s? * 1:09:00 Is Barbie’s existence anti-feminism? Can Barbie grow and change? * 1:12:56 The underlying conflict and complicity between Greta Girwig’s Barbie and capitalism * 1:25:56 We left Barbieland, then what? Our discussions about the movie’s ending * 1:34:24 Can we give space for the existence of a normal, tired Barbie? 【拓展链接 The Links】 * [A Six-Decade Tour of Barbie’s Dreamhouses]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/14/style/barbie-dreamhouse-history-six-decades.html * [After “Barbie,” Mattel Is Raiding Its Entire Toybox] https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/07/10/after-barbie-mattel-is-raiding-its-entire-toybox * [Is Your Carbon Footprint BS?]https://gimletmedia.com/shows/howtosaveaplanet/llh8gxg/is-your-carbon-footprint-bs * [“Forever Barbie：The Unauthorized Biography of a Real Doll”]https://www.amazon.com/Forever-Barbie-Unauthorized-Biography-Real/dp/0802776949 * [Greta Gerwig’s ‘Barbie’ Dream Job]https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/11/magazine/greta-gerwig-barbie.html 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, lighter, more fun and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu! 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China: https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat: CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助

【聊了什么The What】 本期关于性，而且只关于性——这个在当代社会和日常生活无法被绕过的话题，一把了解自己的钥匙。 我们趁着录制这次节目的契机，从大脑里提取出了我们关于性的记忆，哪些小时候看到的画面和角色给了我们性启蒙？同时，我们也聊了最近HBO颇有争议的一部剧集「偶像漩涡」（英语：The Idol），以及里面糟糕的对女性和性的刻画。我们也找出了一些近些年银幕上受人欢迎并且对女性的性欲有正面和积极的解读，鼓励我们去直视自己的欲望。 娇娃画外音：本集播客提到的所有性行为和对于性的解读都是出自于我们的个人经历，我们是以异性恋和顺直女身份的视角去观察和谈论性，所以会有异性恋中心主义的局限性。 录制期间我们将西门庆说成了“妹夫”，西门庆不是妹夫也不想做妹夫，望周知。 本期节目是由“成年人世界里的一点甜”的女性情趣品牌——大人糖赞助的定制播客。在本期节目里你能听到疲惫娇娃们对进阶新产品”兔子月“的细致使用体验。 In this episode, we talk about a very under-explored topic in pop culture -- sex (lol) We reminisce about the pop culture characters from childhood that sparked our sexual awakening. We critique the controversial HBO series "The Idol" for its terrible portrayals of desirability and sex. We also discuss recent shows praised for their positive depictions of female sexuality, encouraging women to embrace their own wants and needs. A note from CyberPink - our perspectives come from personal experiences as cis heterosexual women, which come with inherent limitations. This episode is sponsored by the female sexual wellness brand OSUGA. Tune in to hear our thoughts on their sex toy "Rabbit Moon"! 【听众福利 The Deal】 对大人糖产品感兴趣的朋友们，可通过以下2种方式获得专属优惠，兔子月原价599元，领券后到手价499元，备注还可额外赠送158元大礼包，同时之前推荐的小海豹和逗豆鸟这次依然会给到优惠！更多信息可以点击链接查看详情哦✌️ 1⃣️点击这里跳转或复制口令【￥pqPBdtNklHp￥】领专属优惠券，下单直接满减 2⃣️淘宝搜索【大人糖旗舰店】，私信客服，报暗号【疲惫娇娃】领券下单 [58804d0eaf91951113c3db799f5d3a85.jpg] 重要提示！ 1、下单时记得一定要备注【疲惫娇娃】才会随单一起送出礼包哦 2、部分苹果手机是最新系统的听友可能会遇到口令无法跳转的情况，选择第2种方式购买也可以的哦 另外！考虑到我们有部分海外听众，也可通过点击➡️ OSUGA 下单输入优惠码【疲惫娇娃40】可立减40刀，但到手价格&优惠政策与国内不同享，有需要的朋友们可以自由选择啦～ 【时间轴 The When】 01:50 几个见过世面的娇娃们对进阶新产品“兔子月”大呼牛逼，并且激情介绍产品详情和真实使用体验（此次聊了整整十分钟） 10: 08 疲惫娇娃们的银幕性启蒙，大陆影视剧中拧巴的女性性主体和港台片中媚骨天成的女性角色们 14:10 迪士尼版本「巴黎圣母院」中的性压抑：性力量能转化成黑暗和毁灭 17:25 「情深深 雨濛濛」中的两代女性悲剧，以及银幕上平凡的性 21:27 「赎罪」中禁忌和跨越阶级的性 25:40 女性仍然卡在”不知道如何表达性需求“这一步 28:20 HBO的「The Idol 偶像漩涡」中对女性身体和性的糟糕刻画 42:20 Netflix的「Never Have I Ever 好想做一次」中积极的性理念 49:17 骄傲月中的灵感 01:50 We rave about the advanced new product "Rabbit Moon" and enthusiastically (maybe too much) introduce product details and real user experiences (we talked for a full 10 minutes!) 10:08 Cyberpink’s sexual awakenings from movies and TV shows - twisted female sexual subjects in mainland Chinese media vs alluring female characters in Hong Kong & Taiwanese media 14:10 Sexual repression in the Disney version of "The Hunchback of Notre Dame": sexual power can transform into darkness and destruction 17:25 Two generations of women's tragedies in "Romance in the Rain", and mundane sex on screen 21:27 Forbidden and cross-class sex in "Atonement" 25:40 Women still don’t know how to express sexual needs 28:20 HBO's "The Idol" and its terrible portrayals of the female body and sexuality 42:20 The positive sexual ethos in Netflix's "Never Have I Ever" 49:17 Asian sex icons and inspirations during Pride Month 【拓展链接 The Links】 偶像旋涡 (The Idol) 好想做一次 (Never Have I Ever) 赎罪 (Atonement) 【疲惫红书 CyberRed】 除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。 【买咖啡 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡： * 海外用户：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * 海内用户：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] * 商务合作微信：CyberPink2022 If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad：https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm * Those in China：https://afdian.com/a/cyberpinkfm * Business Inquiries Email：[email protected] * Business Inquiries WeChat： CyberPink2022 Support on Patreon | 爱发电上赞助