2025年第一期AI播客：与AI一起进化
《瞎说设计》第一季
这是好久以来一直想做的栏目，我们希望AI做的不只是摘要，转述，念文本，而是在阅读一篇文章之后会不断提出问题的AI播客主持人。跑了一遍flow后觉得部分AI的观点问的确实还行。但是目前转成中文的效果做得很差。
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【本期中文预览】
【英文稿前五分钟】
说话人 1 00:00
All right, so get ready because today we're going like deep diving into some pretty mind bending stuff. Yeah, we've got this article and it features Gao Sheiming. He's the president of the China Academy of art. And he's talking about AI, okay. And the future, basically, humanity itself.
说话人 2 00:20
And he uses this really interesting jumping off point. Okay, a Chinese SCI fi artwork. Oh, cool. It's called one in.
说话人 1 00:28
Infinity. Yeah, I remember seeing something about that. Yeah, it has this crazy premise where you've got these three students, right, from right now, 2020, they get cryogenically frozen, okay, and they wake up 500 years in the future, right? But the future isn't like flying cars and robot butlers and stuff. It's like weird. It's weird. They find out that everyone's minds are all linked together. Yeah, into this shared brain.
说话人 2 00:52
So complete interconnectedness. But.
说话人 1 00:54
That sounds kind of nice.
说话人 2 00:57
But here's the catch. In this shared brain, creativity has basically flat.
说话人 1 01:01
Lined. So like everyone's on the same wavelength and there are no new ideas.
说话人 2 01:06
Exactly. It's like a cautionary tale. Okay, like what if achieving this utopian ideal of like perfect communication, right, actually like comes at the cost of individual thought?
说话人 1 01:19
Oh, that's kind of scary. It is. Okay, so that's the SCI fi setup. Yeah, but Gao shimming in this article, he's saying this isn't just fantasy, right? He actually sees some parallels to what's happening in our world right now. Exactly. The internet is already connecting us in crazy ways. AI is getting more and more sophisticated every day. And honestly, who knows where it all leads.
说话人 2 01:40
Exactly. And he worries we're so focused on creating digital objects, digital ops, like, you know, all these new gadgets and apps. Right. Right. That we're neglecting to think about like what it means to be.
说话人 1 01:54
A digital subject. So like how our understanding of being human is changing in this digital world.
说话人 2 01:59
Yes, exactly. Yeah, that's deep. It is. Whoa, think about it. Okay. What happens to the concept of individual identity, okay, when we're constantly connected, right? Sharing all of our thoughts and experiences online, are we becoming more like nodes in a network than individual selves?
说话人 1 02:20
Yeah, that's a bit trippy.
说话人 2 02:21
It is. And it's something we need to think about. Okay, because AI is evolving, right? And it's not just gonna change our world, it could change our very understanding of what it means to be.
说话人 1 02:32
Human. Okay, so that brings up another point that Gao Shiming makes. Okay, all those like dystopian SCI fi movies about AI, you know, like the matrix, right, where the machines take over. He thinks those are really influencing how we view the future.
说话人 2 02:46
And not necessarily in a good way. Oh, really? Yeah, the matrix scenario. Okay, we're a small elite, controls the masses through technology, right? It taps into some of our deep seated fears about power and control. Oh, for.
说话人 1 03:00
Sure. And even the puppet master in that kind of situation. Might end up trapped, too, right? It's like that old philosophical idea of the master slave dialectic.
说话人 2 03:09
Exactly. Both the master and the slave become dependent on each other. In this unhealthy relationship. Okay, we see echoes of that in like anxieties about AI, okay, this fear that the technology we create will ultimately enslave us.
说话人 1 03:25
So it's not just about robots with laser beams taking over. Right? It's a deeper issue of control, independence.
说话人 2 03:33
Exactly. And it goes beyond just those Hollywood scenarios. Okay. Gao Shining even brings up goth is homunculus.
说话人 1 03:40
I've heard.
说话人 2 03:41
That. This idea of artificial life, right. It suggests that our anxieties about AI are tied to even older anxieties. Okay, about creating life. About playing God.
说话人 1 03:51
Okay, that adds a whole other layer to it. It does. But you know, when most people think of AI, I think they do picture robots. Is that too narrow of you then?
说话人 2 03:58
Definitely. Okay, think about it. AI isn't just about building machines, okay, that can do things like humans. It's also a way to like understand our audio and minds better. Oh, interesting. By trying to recreate intelligence artificially, right? We learn more about how we learn, how we think, okay, we.
说话人 1 04:17
Create. So AI is a tool for self reflection. If you're like holding up a mirror to our own minds.
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