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Another episode recorded in the summer of 2023, before Esin went on tour for Disney Pixar's Coco in Concert. Esin shares her journey from Turkey to Disney to becoming the youngest screen scoring department assistant chair of Berklee, her relationship with music, and her incredible ability to turn her passion into her work. She discusses her passion for music, the challenges of the industry, and the importance of pursuing one's dreams. The dialogue explores the creative process of film scoring, the significance of collaboration, and the balance between teaching and composing. Esin emphasizes the need for passion in music and offers valuable advice for aspiring musicians. Please leave a comment below and let us know what inspirations you take from this episode because we would love to know! Timestamps 00:00 Introduction and First Impressions 02:27 Musical Journey and Inspirations 05:02 Defining Success and Impact 07:55 The Role of Passion in Music 10:38 Life as a Film Composer 13:51 Balancing Multiple Roles 16:36 Upcoming Projects and US Tours 19:24 Creative Process in Film Scoring 22:35 Navigating Collaborations and Revisions 24:29 Personal Growth Through Music 27:37 Turning Passion into Action: Just Do It! 40:26 Networking and Seizing Opportunities 49:20 Overcoming Self-Doubt and Embracing Challenges Guest Bio Esin Aydingoz is an emerging composer and conductor working in animation, films, TV series, video games, and stage musicals. Originally from Turkey, she moved to the United States to study at Berklee College of Music, where she recently served as the Assistant Chair of the Screen Scoring Department. Aydingoz was nominated for a Grammy Award in 2024 for her cello arrangement of Rolling Stones' "Paint It Black," featured in Tim Burton’s Emmy winning hit Netflix series Wednesday. Her arrangement reached #1 on the Billboard Classical Charts, with over thirty-seven million Spotify plays. Aydingoz's documentary score for Black Barbie premiered at SXSW, and her first feature film Simchas and Sorrows brought her a nomination for the prestigious David Raksin Award for Emerging Talent by the Society of Composers & Lyricists. Aydingoz's film and TV music can be heard on Netflix, Apple TV+, Amazon Prime Video, Hallmark, etc., as well as in the archival box set Cinema's First Nasty Women, which was named one of the British Film Institute's top 10 Blu-rays of 2023. Her latest score is from the critically acclaimed Hulu Original film, She Taught Love, which received a limited theatrical run and is streaming now on Hulu in the US and on Disney+ internationally.​ To learn more about Esin Aydingoz, check out her website at https://www.esinaydingoz.com/. Disney Pixar’s Coco in Concert on Tour, Music Director, Esin Aydingoz: https://amp-worldwide.com/artist/coco-in-concert-on-tour/

Another episode recorded in the summer of 2023, before Esin went on tour for Disney Pixar's Coco in Concert. Esin shares her journey from Turkey to Disney to becoming the youngest screen scoring department assistant chair of Berklee, her relationship with music, and her incredible ability to turn her passion into her work. She discusses her passion for music, the challenges of the industry, and the importance of pursuing one's dreams. The dialogue explores the creative process of film scoring, the significance of collaboration, and the balance between teaching and composing. Esin emphasizes the need for passion in music and offers valuable advice for aspiring musicians. Please leave a comment below and let us know what inspirations you take from this episode because we would love to know! Timestamps 00:00 Introduction and First Impressions 02:27 Musical Journey and Inspirations 05:02 Defining Success and Impact 07:55 The Role of Passion in Music 10:38 Life as a Film Composer 13:51 Balancing Multiple Roles 16:36 Upcoming Projects and US Tours 19:24 Creative Process in Film Scoring 22:35 Navigating Collaborations and Revisions 24:29 Personal Growth Through Music 27:37 Turning Passion into Action: Just Do It! 40:26 Networking and Seizing Opportunities 49:20 Overcoming Self-Doubt and Embracing Challenges Guest Bio Esin Aydingoz is an emerging composer and conductor working in animation, films, TV series, video games, and stage musicals. Originally from Turkey, she moved to the United States to study at Berklee College of Music, where she recently served as the Assistant Chair of the Screen Scoring Department. Aydingoz was nominated for a Grammy Award in 2024 for her cello arrangement of Rolling Stones' "Paint It Black," featured in Tim Burton’s Emmy winning hit Netflix series Wednesday. Her arrangement reached #1 on the Billboard Classical Charts, with over thirty-seven million Spotify plays. Aydingoz's documentary score for Black Barbie premiered at SXSW, and her first feature film Simchas and Sorrows brought her a nomination for the prestigious David Raksin Award for Emerging Talent by the Society of Composers & Lyricists. Aydingoz's film and TV music can be heard on Netflix, Apple TV+, Amazon Prime Video, Hallmark, etc., as well as in the archival box set Cinema's First Nasty Women, which was named one of the British Film Institute's top 10 Blu-rays of 2023. Her latest score is from the critically acclaimed Hulu Original film, She Taught Love, which received a limited theatrical run and is streaming now on Hulu in the US and on Disney+ internationally.​ To learn more about Esin Aydingoz, check out her website at https://www.esinaydingoz.com/. Disney Pixar’s Coco in Concert on Tour, Music Director, Esin Aydingoz: https://amp-worldwide.com/artist/coco-in-concert-on-tour/

The profound impact of music on personal development, creativity, and emotional well-being; the importance of music therapy; the role of listener profiles in shaping musical preferences; the benefits of music education. Dr. Rogers shares insights from her career in music production and neuroscience, emphasizing the need for creativity and the significance of understanding one's unique relationship with music. Guest Bio Director, Berklee Music Perception and Cognition Laboratory; Record Producer; Author, This Is What It Sounds Like: What the Music You Love Says About You Susan Rogers holds a doctorate in psychology from McGill University, where she studied music cognition and psychoacoustics under researchers Daniel Levitin and Stephen McAdams. Her research focuses on auditory memory, the perception of musical signals, and the influence of musical training on auditory development. For two decades prior to her science career, Rogers was one of the world's few women known for her work as a record producer, engineer, mixer, and audio electronics technician. Career highlights include years (1983–1988) as staff engineer for recording artist Prince and working with such diverse artists as Barenaked Ladies, David Byrne, Tricky, and Tevin Campbell. Chapters 00:00 Background story about this episode and Happy New Year 02:55 Susan's favourite music genre 05:58 When you love your work, it's so easy. -- a multifaceted career 09:14 As a child, I knew I did not want to be a musician, but I want to help bringing music into the world. 12:30 Which archetype are you? from the early Silicon Valley 15:19 7 dimensions of a song and listener profile 18:04 Which element of a record is "right" for you? How it shapes your brain's auditory cortex? 19:59 How early childhood music listening experiences shapes our brain? 25:08 I don't listen to music. Can music therapy benefit me? 28:15 How prevalent is tone deaf? 29:01 Research shows learning to play an instrument at any age improves your mood, memory, immune system 30:42 How to bring more music into your life and enhance quality of life? 33:02 The music of our culture mimics the way we use our voices to convey emotions. 34:06 Appreciate the music from various culture help us expand our experiences and personal identity 35:34 How to do a "Record Pull" with your friends? 40:37 Don't prepare to 100% ready: The Power of Nervousness in Performance 42:25 Lack of Focus is the Biggest Enemy of Greatness --Jerry Seinfeld 44:05 How to find the perfect level of stage fright? Mindset matters 45:58 The greatest benefit of a proper music education, what research says? 47:37 Musical boys are more cooperative and empathetic, research shows 49:04 The impact of group music lessons for children and adults 51:13 You can be musical without being a musician. 53:16 Brain differences in Trained Singers vs non-singers 56:01 Creativity and the brakes in your Brain 01:05:02 Protect Childlike Wonder and Creativity: Never tell your child to hurry. 01:07:33 Take your brain off its leash, be free and have fun! 01:11:22 Childish VS Childlike: breaking free from the "should" Takeaways * Music can be a powerful tool for healing and personal growth. * Understanding listener profiles can enhance our appreciation of music. * Creativity is essential for personal fulfillment and cannot be forced. * Music education fosters cooperation and empathy in children. * Music therapy can benefit individuals regardless of their musical background. * Childlike curiosity and openness are vital for creativity. * The brain's response to music shapes our preferences and emotional connections. * Engaging with music can improve cognitive functions and emotional well-being. * Sharing music with others deepens connections and understanding. * The future of music lies in the intersection of creativity and neuroscience.

The profound impact of music on personal development, creativity, and emotional well-being; the importance of music therapy; the role of listener profiles in shaping musical preferences; the benefits of music education. Dr. Rogers shares insights from her career in music production and neuroscience, emphasizing the need for creativity and the significance of understanding one's unique relationship with music. Guest Bio Director, Berklee Music Perception and Cognition Laboratory; Record Producer; Author, This Is What It Sounds Like: What the Music You Love Says About You Susan Rogers holds a doctorate in psychology from McGill University, where she studied music cognition and psychoacoustics under researchers Daniel Levitin and Stephen McAdams. Her research focuses on auditory memory, the perception of musical signals, and the influence of musical training on auditory development. For two decades prior to her science career, Rogers was one of the world's few women known for her work as a record producer, engineer, mixer, and audio electronics technician. Career highlights include years (1983–1988) as staff engineer for recording artist Prince and working with such diverse artists as Barenaked Ladies, David Byrne, Tricky, and Tevin Campbell. Chapters 00:00 Background story about this episode and Happy New Year 02:55 Susan's favourite music genre 05:58 When you love your work, it's so easy. -- a multifaceted career 09:14 As a child, I knew I did not want to be a musician, but I want to help bringing music into the world. 12:30 Which archetype are you? from the early Silicon Valley 15:19 7 dimensions of a song and listener profile 18:04 Which element of a record is "right" for you? How it shapes your brain's auditory cortex? 19:59 How early childhood music listening experiences shapes our brain? 25:08 I don't listen to music. Can music therapy benefit me? 28:15 How prevalent is tone deaf? 29:01 Research shows learning to play an instrument at any age improves your mood, memory, immune system 30:42 How to bring more music into your life and enhance quality of life? 33:02 The music of our culture mimics the way we use our voices to convey emotions. 34:06 Appreciate the music from various culture help us expand our experiences and personal identity 35:34 How to do a "Record Pull" with your friends? 40:37 Don't prepare to 100% ready: The Power of Nervousness in Performance 42:25 Lack of Focus is the Biggest Enemy of Greatness --Jerry Seinfeld 44:05 How to find the perfect level of stage fright? Mindset matters 45:58 The greatest benefit of a proper music education, what research says? 47:37 Musical boys are more cooperative and empathetic, research shows 49:04 The impact of group music lessons for children and adults 51:13 You can be musical without being a musician. 53:16 Brain differences in Trained Singers vs non-singers 56:01 Creativity and the brakes in your Brain 01:05:02 Protect Childlike Wonder and Creativity: Never tell your child to hurry. 01:07:33 Take your brain off its leash, be free and have fun! 01:11:22 Childish VS Childlike: breaking free from the "should" Takeaways Music can be a powerful tool for healing and personal growth. Understanding listener profiles can enhance our appreciation of music. Creativity is essential for personal fulfillment and cannot be forced. Music education fosters cooperation and empathy in children. Music therapy can benefit individuals regardless of their musical background. Childlike curiosity and openness are vital for creativity. The brain's response to music shapes our preferences and emotional connections. Engaging with music can improve cognitive functions and emotional well-being. Sharing music with others deepens connections and understanding. The future of music lies in the intersection of creativity and neuroscience.

The profound impact of music education, the role of a teacher, and the evolution of music in the context of technology and personal growth. Laszlo and I reflect on our experiences at Berklee, the challenges faced during the pandemic, and the future of music education, emphasizing the importance of creativity, connection, and the human experience in music. Guest Bio Internationally acclaimed Boston-based jazz pianist and composer Laszlo Gardony is one of the most expressive and technically skilled pianists working in jazz today. “A formidable improviser who lives in the moment,” according to JazzTimes, Gardony has performed in 27 countries and released 14 albums as a leader: 11 on the Sunnyside label, two on Antilles and one on Avenue Jazz. Winner of the Great American Jazz Piano Competition, he has been noted for his “fluid pianism” by The New York Times, praised by JazzTimes for his “incredible technique spread over a highly personal harmonic language,” lauded by The Boston Phoenix for his “accessible lyricism and subtle complexities” and celebrated by the UK’s Jazzwise as a “fine pianist who has mastered the sound of surprise” and hailed by Cadence as a pianist deserving of wider recognition. And as DownBeat put it: “No matter how busy Gardony becomes, there’s a stillness at the center of his music, a distinctive amalgam of central European folk strains, majestic classic piano and improvisational fearlessness.” The legendary Dave Brubeck also called him “a great pianist.” A professor in the piano department at Berklee College of Music since 1987, Gardony is also a faculty member at Harvard University’s Jazz Combo Initiative program. Timestamps 00:00 Why it took me 18 months to publish this interview? A brief life review. 17:06 Laszlo reflects on hearing Xingyu at the Berklee first-week audition and the role of a teacher 23:54 Navigating Challenges: Growth Through Adversity 31:06 Teaching at Harvard: open up the Musician Mind 37:09 Can AI replace real music and art? The problem with human desensitization 43:54 Creating 'Close Connection': The Album's Evolution 46:48 How to teach music online? 52:38 The Art of Improvisation in Music 62:19 The Art of Creating Music from Spontaneity 66:30 Musical Influences and Writing my Dairy on the Piano 69:13 What happens in your brain when you improvise? How to become egoless so that the greater wisdom can come in... 1:11:21 The Future of Music Education: hearing the sounds that express our humanity 1:13:52 The Role of Machine and Human in the Future of Music Takeaways 1. The connection between teacher and student is vital for growth. 2. Improvisation allows for deeper self-expression in music. 3. Art should facilitate connection and creativity among individuals. 4. How musicians took the challenge of the pandemic to reflect and innovate? 5. Humanity and compassion are essential qualities for artists. 6. Music serves as a form of therapy and self-reflection. 7. The future of music lies in discovering subtle sound elements. 8. Teaching music requires a balance between structure and spontaneity. 9. The essence of music is rooted in human experience and connection. Recourses * lgjazz.com * Cedar Tree Dance (Laszlo Gardony) - The Laszlo Gardony Trio w/ John Lockwood (b), Yoron Israel (d) * 2011 Space Art-icy

The profound impact of music education, the role of a teacher, and the evolution of music in the context of technology and personal growth. Laszlo and I reflect on our experiences at Berklee, the challenges faced during the pandemic, and the future of music education, emphasizing the importance of creativity, connection, and the human experience in music. Guest Bio Internationally acclaimed Boston-based jazz pianist and composer Laszlo Gardony is one of the most expressive and technically skilled pianists working in jazz today. “A formidable improviser who lives in the moment,” according to JazzTimes, Gardony has performed in 27 countries and released 14 albums as a leader: 11 on the Sunnyside label, two on Antilles and one on Avenue Jazz. Winner of the Great American Jazz Piano Competition, he has been noted for his “fluid pianism” by The New York Times, praised by JazzTimes for his “incredible technique spread over a highly personal harmonic language,” lauded by The Boston Phoenix for his “accessible lyricism and subtle complexities” and celebrated by the UK’s Jazzwise as a “fine pianist who has mastered the sound of surprise” and hailed by Cadence as a pianist deserving of wider recognition. And as DownBeat put it: “No matter how busy Gardony becomes, there’s a stillness at the center of his music, a distinctive amalgam of central European folk strains, majestic classic piano and improvisational fearlessness.” The legendary Dave Brubeck also called him “a great pianist.” A professor in the piano department at Berklee College of Music since 1987, Gardony is also a faculty member at Harvard University’s Jazz Combo Initiative program. Timestamps 00:00 Why it took me 18 months to publish this interview? A brief life review. 17:06 Laszlo reflects on hearing Xingyu at the Berklee first-week audition and the role of a teacher 23:54 Navigating Challenges: Growth Through Adversity 31:06 Teaching at Harvard: open up the Musician Mind 37:09 Can AI replace real music and art? The problem with human desensitization 43:54 Creating 'Close Connection': The Album's Evolution 46:48 How to teach music online? 52:38 The Art of Improvisation in Music 62:19 The Art of Creating Music from Spontaneity 66:30 Musical Influences and Writing my Dairy on the Piano 69:13 What happens in your brain when you improvise? How to become egoless so that the greater wisdom can come in... 1:11:21 The Future of Music Education: hearing the sounds that express our humanity 1:13:52 The Role of Machine and Human in the Future of Music Takeaways The connection between teacher and student is vital for growth. Improvisation allows for deeper self-expression in music. Art should facilitate connection and creativity among individuals. How musicians took the challenge of the pandemic to reflect and innovate? Humanity and compassion are essential qualities for artists. Music serves as a form of therapy and self-reflection. The future of music lies in discovering subtle sound elements. Teaching music requires a balance between structure and spontaneity. The essence of music is rooted in human experience and connection. Recourses lgjazz.com Cedar Tree Dance (Laszlo Gardony) - The Laszlo Gardony Trio w/ John Lockwood (b), Yoron Israel (d) 2011 Space Art-icy

在南非开普敦的大西洋边，以海鸥之声为背景，我与一位学生家长Susan一起回顾儿子Max跟随我学习音乐这一年多的成长旅程——不仅充分发掘了孩子的音乐潜能，还帮助Max打破“自闭症问题学生”的枷锁，成为乐于助人、日渐自信的“小博士”。当我们将全人音乐教育与音乐治疗有机整合，很多的不可能将成为可能。 我保留了环绕着我们的海浪声。邀请你想象和我们一起坐在海边，享受迎面而来的大西洋海风，聆听与重新思考音乐、教育方式、儿童成长、自闭症、音乐治疗、学校教育等议题。 Timestamps 02:02 从“问题学生”到“小博士”的蜕变：妈妈又惊又喜，五味杂成 08:30 找寻独特的天赋之路：重要的是找到支持孩子的专业人士 17:01 音乐之路的引路者：与作曲家探讨音乐创作与演奏的奥秘 25:34 你的孩子是否有ADHD？了解ADHD的真相与误判！ 28:25 音乐与数学的共通之处 34:06 寻找专业支持：家长与老师共同培养孩子的自信与能力 35:02 成绩与能力必然相关吗？ 42:40 音乐治疗的魔力：探索即兴互动促进社交技能和语言表达的成长 51:11 揭开自闭症的真相：家长如何面对孩子的诊断？ 59:42 如何选择多元发展：重新定义孩子成长的标准与方向 1:03:06 家长的焦虑与对教育标准的反思 1:08:15 成为LEADER的关键：超越成绩要求的培养与自主性 1:16:47 音乐隐藏智慧：探索爵士乐与古典音乐的差异及其对大脑发育的影响 1:25:19 用声音和母乳为孩子提供安全依恋关系 1:33:51 真正的音乐：情感流淌，疗愈自我，产生深度连接与共鸣 嘉宾 Susan Guo U+营地品牌联合创始人 英国低龄留学规划5年经验 培生认证对外汉语副教授 相关专业概念 学障资优生（Twice-Exceptional Child） 简称“2E”，指同时具有天才特征和学习障碍的人群 音乐治疗（Music Therapy） 是指由完成认可的音乐治疗项目的持证专业人员，在治疗关系中临床和基于证据地使用音乐干预来实现个性化目标 神经多元性（Neurodiversity） 是一个理解人类大脑功能的视角，承认在感官处理、运动能力、社交舒适度、认知和注意力方面的多样性是神经生物学上的差异。这种多样性属于神经认知差异的光谱。 自闭症（ASD） 神经发育障碍，其特征是重复、局限和僵化的行为、兴趣和活动模式，以及社交沟通和社交互动的缺陷，并伴有高或低的感官敏感性。 注意力缺陷多动障碍（ADHD）通常始于儿童时期，并可能持续到成年。主要症状包括注意力困难、多动和冲动，可能导致自尊心低下、人际关系问题以及在学校或工作中的困难。

在南非开普敦的大西洋边，以海鸥之声为背景，我与一位学生家长Susan一起回顾儿子Max跟随我学习音乐这一年多的成长旅程——不仅充分发掘了孩子的音乐潜能，还帮助Max打破“自闭症问题学生”的枷锁，成为乐于助人、日渐自信的“小博士”。当我们将全人音乐教育与音乐治疗有机整合，很多的不可能将成为可能。 我保留了环绕着我们的海浪声。邀请你想象和我们一起坐在海边，享受迎面而来的大西洋海风，聆听与重新思考音乐、教育方式、儿童成长、自闭症、音乐治疗、学校教育等议题。 Timestamps 02:02 从“问题学生”到“小博士”的蜕变：妈妈又惊又喜，五味杂成 08:30 找寻独特的天赋之路：重要的是找到支持孩子的专业人士 17:01 音乐之路的引路者：与作曲家探讨音乐创作与演奏的奥秘 25:34 你的孩子是否有ADHD？了解ADHD的真相与误判！ 28:25 音乐与数学的共通之处 34:06 寻找专业支持：家长与老师共同培养孩子的自信与能力 35:02 成绩与能力必然相关吗？ 42:40 音乐治疗的魔力：探索即兴互动促进社交技能和语言表达的成长 51:11 揭开自闭症的真相：家长如何面对孩子的诊断？ 59:42 如何选择多元发展：重新定义孩子成长的标准与方向 1:03:06 家长的焦虑与对教育标准的反思 1:08:15 成为LEADER的关键：超越成绩要求的培养与自主性 1:16:47 音乐隐藏智慧：探索爵士乐与古典音乐的差异及其对大脑发育的影响 1:25:19 用声音和母乳为孩子提供安全依恋关系 1:33:51 真正的音乐：情感流淌，疗愈自我，产生深度连接与共鸣 嘉宾 Susan Guo U+营地品牌联合创始人 英国低龄留学规划5年经验 培生认证对外汉语副教授 相关专业概念 学障资优生（Twice-Exceptional Child） 简称“2E”，指同时具有天才特征和学习障碍的人群 音乐治疗（Music Therapy） 是指由完成认可的音乐治疗项目的持证专业人员，在治疗关系中临床和基于证据地使用音乐干预来实现个性化目标 神经多元性（Neurodiversity） 是一个理解人类大脑功能的视角，承认在感官处理、运动能力、社交舒适度、认知和注意力方面的多样性是神经生物学上的差异。这种多样性属于神经认知差异的光谱。 自闭症（ASD） 神经发育障碍，其特征是重复、局限和僵化的行为、兴趣和活动模式，以及社交沟通和社交互动的缺陷，并伴有高或低的感官敏感性。 注意力缺陷多动障碍（ADHD）通常始于儿童时期，并可能持续到成年。主要症状包括注意力困难、多动和冲动，可能导致自尊心低下、人际关系问题以及在学校或工作中的困难。

参与到本期特别节目中的是2024-2025学年【FOREJAZZX音乐治疗基础训练班】的学员们。他们在各个专业领域发光发热，出于对音乐与生活的热爱而相聚，共同提升音乐能力、探索音乐对于生命的启迪；同时，希望用学习到的有关运用音乐提升身心健康的知识帮助到身边的家人、学生、同事或朋友。 如果你也怀抱这样的心意，欢迎加入我们。2025-2026学年正在招生面试中，招生简章详询 Email: [email protected]，附上自我介绍。 【FOREJAZZX音乐治疗基础训练班】一年期团体课程。基于伯克利音乐学院音乐治疗系经过22年发展形成的行业领先音乐治疗师培训体系，中文版本经过2021-2024年4年打磨成熟。每周线上互动式授课＋线上学习平台，2025年起实施滚动录取。理论+体验式学习＋科学实践应用+以学生为中心。 课程为期一年，分为三个学期暨三门核心课程，依据我在伯克利音乐学院学习爵士乐与音乐治疗双专业的教学体系设计。录制这一天是第一学期的期中周，在周日晚上的课程结束后，我与学生们（线上）围坐一堂，深入聊聊共同关心的4大主题。 1. 工业化音乐教育VS还原音乐的真谛 2. 爵士乐的精神与历史 3. 音乐的核心是灵魂与情感还是技术与成就？ 4. 课程学习到目前阶段的反思与收获/成长 Highlights 19:38 最大的收获，是我好像可以更靠近音乐一点，也更靠近自己一点 22:52 我们这一代人是为满足中国高速发展而出生的一代。我们生出来，其实就是为了去满足我们国家要这样的高速去发展。所以，我们就从生出来就一直快速的，什么都是快的。突然间到了这个疫情之后的这个停摆，让我们这一代人不知所措，茫然急刹车。突然，你让一个高速运转的机器突然间停了，大家就害怕了。那不就结束了吗？还有没有其他选择？ 25:22 接触到很多80、90后，小时候是被打着考完钢琴十级，青春期就说“我再也不弹琴了”，和父母反抗，把它作为叛逆的其中一个部分。当他们长大后再想捡起来的时候，常常会遇到一个困难，就是当他在坐在钢琴前，他是是充满恐惧的——那些被打骂逼迫着去考级、做很多自己不喜欢的事情、放弃很多其他自己真正想做的事——那些记忆和创伤就会阻碍他们去跟音乐建立一个健康有爱的关系。这是我看到觉得特别心痛的一件事情。也变成我在国内的工作占比很大的一部分。 34:56 我希望做的事是让音乐成为孩子的某种人生底气——当他去面对未来的一切不确定时，音乐就是他的一个家。如果你把他的家毁了——无家可归。 39:51 因为我觉得我们自己没有看到多样的路径。都说人生不是轨道，是旷野，但我们只被允许看到了轨道，星宇看到了旷野、大海、星辰。 43:06 「人力资源」这个词的出现，已经开始不把人当完完整整、有血有肉、有各方面需要、有身心精神各个维度的人了。已经把人降维度成一个可以利用的资源了， 47:53 我觉得这个学习是一个音乐系统认知的升级。 53:24 玄学和幻想只有一墙之隔。 1:04:33 为什么会有这些乱象？因为市场太好了，韭菜太多了。我们的教育在干什么？制造割不完的韭菜。 1:28:04 看到很多人性的力量在里面——当他们出现了这些问题的时候，他们不是消极地去抗议，而是把这些情绪诉诸于音乐，这是一个很健康的宣泄方式，甚至是创意，造就了嘻哈音乐的诞生。 1:37:00 银河触手可及，想象在这样的环境中学习星座、体验音乐与生命力。 本期音乐推荐 爵士乐曲Strange Fruit两个版本 * Billie Holiday 1959 * Nina Simone Live in Antibes, 1965 Bobby McFerrin Don't Worry Be Happy FOREJAZZX合唱团成员登记开启：想要学习Bobby McFerrin, Victor Wooten, Jacob Collier这种风格的音乐，添加公众号@Cherub星宇有音乐真好，找到企业微信，添加并在自我介绍中发送暗号。

参与到本期特别节目中的是2024-2025学年【FOREJAZZX音乐治疗基础训练班】的学员们。他们在各个专业领域发光发热，出于对音乐与生活的热爱而相聚，共同提升音乐能力、探索音乐对于生命的启迪；同时，希望用学习到的有关运用音乐提升身心健康的知识帮助到身边的家人、学生、同事或朋友。如果你也怀抱这样的心意，欢迎加入我们。2025-2026学年正在招生面试中，招生简章详询 Email: [email protected]，附上自我介绍。【FOREJAZZX音乐治疗基础训练班】一年期团体课程。基于伯克利音乐学院音乐治疗系经过22年发展形成的行业领先音乐治疗师培训体系，中文版本经过2021-2024年4年打磨成熟。每周线上互动式授课＋线上学习平台，2025年起实施滚动录取。理论+体验式学习＋科学实践应用+以学生为中心。课程为期一年，分为三个学期暨三门核心课程，依据我在伯克利音乐学院学习爵士乐与音乐治疗双专业的教学体系设计。录制这一天是第一学期的期中周，在周日晚上的课程结束后，我与学生们（线上）围坐一堂，深入聊聊共同关心的4大主题。工业化音乐教育VS还原音乐的真谛爵士乐的精神与历史音乐的核心是灵魂与情感还是技术与成就？课程学习到目前阶段的反思与收获/成长Highlights19:38 最大的收获，是我好像可以更靠近音乐一点，也更靠近自己一点22:52 我们这一代人是为满足中国高速发展而出生的一代。我们生出来，其实就是为了去满足我们国家要这样的高速去发展。所以，我们就从生出来就一直快速的，什么都是快的。突然间到了这个疫情之后的这个停摆，让我们这一代人不知所措，茫然急刹车。突然，你让一个高速运转的机器突然间停了，大家就害怕了。那不就结束了吗？还有没有其他选择？25:22 接触到很多80、90后，小时候是被打着考完钢琴十级，青春期就说“我再也不弹琴了”，和父母反抗，把它作为叛逆的其中一个部分。当他们长大后再想捡起来的时候，常常会遇到一个困难，就是当他在坐在钢琴前，他是是充满恐惧的——那些被打骂逼迫着去考级、做很多自己不喜欢的事情、放弃很多其他自己真正想做的事——那些记忆和创伤就会阻碍他们去跟音乐建立一个健康有爱的关系。这是我看到觉得特别心痛的一件事情。也变成我在国内的工作占比很大的一部分。34:56 我希望做的事是让音乐成为孩子的某种人生底气——当他去面对未来的一切不确定时，音乐就是他的一个家。如果你把他的家毁了——无家可归。39:51 因为我觉得我们自己没有看到多样的路径。都说人生不是轨道，是旷野，但我们只被允许看到了轨道，星宇看到了旷野、大海、星辰。 43:06 「人力资源」这个词的出现，已经开始不把人当完完整整、有血有肉、有各方面需要、有身心精神各个维度的人了。已经把人降维度成一个可以利用的资源了，47:53 我觉得这个学习是一个音乐系统认知的升级。53:24 玄学和幻想只有一墙之隔。1:04:33 为什么会有这些乱象？因为市场太好了，韭菜太多了。我们的教育在干什么？制造割不完的韭菜。1:28:04 看到很多人性的力量在里面——当他们出现了这些问题的时候，他们不是消极地去抗议，而是把这些情绪诉诸于音乐，这是一个很健康的宣泄方式，甚至是创意，造就了嘻哈音乐的诞生。1:37:00 银河触手可及，想象在这样的环境中学习星座、体验音乐与生命力。本期音乐推荐爵士乐曲Strange Fruit两个版本Billie Holiday 1959Nina Simone Live in Antibes, 1965Bobby McFerrin Don't Worry Be HappyFOREJAZZX合唱团成员登记开启：想要学习Bobby McFerrin, Victor Wooten, Jacob Collier这种风格的音乐，添加公众号@Cherub星宇有音乐真好，找到企业微信，添加并在自我介绍中发送暗号。

Join us to explore the profound impact of music on personal identity, healing, and creativity. We discuss the importance of creating one's own experiences, the healing power of music, and the challenges of navigating cultural expectations in the music industry. Scott shares his journey of songwriting and the founding of World Singing Day, emphasizing that music is for everyone and can bring joy and connection across cultures. We explore the significance of singing and music in personal expression, healing, and community building. We discuss the origins of World Singing Day, the importance of finding one's voice, and the transformative power of music therapy, particularly for seniors. The dialogue also touches on cultural perspectives regarding singing, the role of music in fostering community, and the necessity of trusting one's inner voice while navigating life's journey. We explore the importance of trusting one's path, the growth of World Singing Day, and the challenges of navigating societal expectations. We discuss the balance between creativity and commercialization, the journey of self-discovery, and the power of voice and expression. The conversation emphasizes the significance of music in personal growth and encourages listeners to embrace their unique journeys and sing together, particularly on World Singing Day. Food for thought "Some of the biggest mistakes are the best learning." "Cultural expectations can mold one's relationship with music." "We can create our own experience, and our own life." "The power of voice is deeply connected to our emotions and identity." "Judgments from society can silence our voices." "Music education can be therapeutic." "Trust your inner wisdom and follow what lights you up." "Creativity thrives in an environment free from commercial pressures." "Self-discovery is a journey that requires trust and openness." "Life's biggest decisions often come naturally, not through force." Chapters 00:00 Intro 00:54 Celebrating Connections and Milestones 04:57 Creating Your Own Heaven 11:21 The Healing Power of Music 18:19 Navigating Cultural Expectations in Music 25:11 The Journey of Musical Creation 27:12 The Birth of World Singing Day 30:17 Finding Your Voice Through Music 33:07 The Healing Power of Singing 37:23 The Importance of Community in Music 40:58 Cultural Perspectives on Singing 45:27 The Role of Music in Personal Expression 48:22 Navigating Life's Journey Without a Plan 54:08 Trusting Your Path 57:31 The Growth of World Singing Day 01:00:36 Navigating Societal Expectations 01:01:38 Creativity vs. Commercialization 01:04:40 The Journey of Self-Discovery 01:07:34 The Power of Voice and Expression 01:17:19 Encouragement to Sing Together 01:19:19 If This Were Heaven by Scott Johnson 01:19:51 Outro Guest Bio Scott Johnson Scott founded World Singing Day in 2012 with the belief that nothing bonds people faster than singing together. He has written and produced music for over 40 years, including 7 albums of his own songs, ranging from children’s music to adult contemporary pop/rock. In 2003, Scott co-founded the Positive Music Association to promote artists and music with universal, life-affirming messages.

Join us to explore the profound impact of music on personal identity, healing, and creativity. We discuss the importance of creating one's own experiences, the healing power of music, and the challenges of navigating cultural expectations in the music industry. Scott shares his journey of songwriting and the founding of World Singing Day, emphasizing that music is for everyone and can bring joy and connection across cultures. We explore the significance of singing and music in personal expression, healing, and community building. We discuss the origins of World Singing Day, the importance of finding one's voice, and the transformative power of music therapy, particularly for seniors. The dialogue also touches on cultural perspectives regarding singing, the role of music in fostering community, and the necessity of trusting one's inner voice while navigating life's journey. We explore the importance of trusting one's path, the growth of World Singing Day, and the challenges of navigating societal expectations. We discuss the balance between creativity and commercialization, the journey of self-discovery, and the power of voice and expression. The conversation emphasizes the significance of music in personal growth and encourages listeners to embrace their unique journeys and sing together, particularly on World Singing Day. Food for thought "Some of the biggest mistakes are the best learning." "Cultural expectations can mold one's relationship with music." "We can create our own experience, and our own life." "The power of voice is deeply connected to our emotions and identity." "Judgments from society can silence our voices." "Music education can be therapeutic." "Trust your inner wisdom and follow what lights you up." "Creativity thrives in an environment free from commercial pressures." "Self-discovery is a journey that requires trust and openness." "Life's biggest decisions often come naturally, not through force." Chapters 00:00 Intro 00:54 Celebrating Connections and Milestones 04:57 Creating Your Own Heaven 11:21 The Healing Power of Music 18:19 Navigating Cultural Expectations in Music 25:11 The Journey of Musical Creation 27:12 The Birth of World Singing Day 30:17 Finding Your Voice Through Music 33:07 The Healing Power of Singing 37:23 The Importance of Community in Music 40:58 Cultural Perspectives on Singing 45:27 The Role of Music in Personal Expression 48:22 Navigating Life's Journey Without a Plan 54:08 Trusting Your Path 57:31 The Growth of World Singing Day 01:00:36 Navigating Societal Expectations 01:01:38 Creativity vs. Commercialization 01:04:40 The Journey of Self-Discovery 01:07:34 The Power of Voice and Expression 01:17:19 Encouragement to Sing Together 01:19:19 If This Were Heaven by Scott Johnson 01:19:51 Outro Guest Bio Scott Johnson Scott founded World Singing Day in 2012 with the belief that nothing bonds people faster than singing together. He has written and produced music for over 40 years, including 7 albums of his own songs, ranging from children’s music to adult contemporary pop/rock. In 2003, Scott co-founded the Positive Music Association to promote artists and music with universal, life-affirming messages.