【聊了什么 The What】 他是 1997 年出生的硅谷新贵，28 岁就坐上了 Meta 首席 AI 官的位置。Alexandr Wang 从 MIT 辍学创业，到打造独角兽 Scale AI，一路高歌猛进。但相比履历，他的性格更耐人寻味：既是奥赛极客，又是派对常客；他不仅在硅谷的人脉网络中游刃有余，还在更为传统、精英的华盛顿为公司争取来了国防合同。同时，他也提出了争议极大的MEI（能力、卓越、智慧）招聘原则——这究竟是出于真心，还是精心的权力游戏？ 本期，我们请到了Scale AI早期员工小蒋，透过第一手经历，聊聊这位“机会主义者”如何在极客与政客之间切换，在硅谷风口中找到属于自己的位置。 更正：节目中提到Meta Superintelligence Labs更名为TBD Lab，根据最新报道，TBD Lab是Meta Superintelligence Labs的一个部门 He is a rising star of Silicon Valley, born in 1997 and already serving as Meta’s Chief AI Officer at just 28. From dropping out of MIT to founding the unicorn Scale AI, Alexandr Wang’s ascent has been nothing short of meteoric. But beyond the dazzling résumé, his personality is far more intriguing: both an Olympiad geek and a party regular; equally adept at navigating Silicon Valley’s social networks and lobbying the more traditional, elite circles of Washington to secure defense contracts. He also introduced the highly controversial MEI (Merit, Excellence, Intelligence) hiring principle—was this a genuine belief, or a calculated power play? In this episode, we’re joined by Xiao Jiang, an early employee of Scale AI, who shares first-hand stories about how this “opportunist” moves fluidly between geeks and politicians, carving out his place at the very heart of Silicon Valley’s AI boom. Correction: The program mentioned that Meta Superintelligence Labs was renamed to TBD Lab. According to the latest reports, TBD Lab is a division of Meta Superintelligence Labs. 【购票链接 The Link】 Destination Undefined — 新戏胞剧团 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:02:44 – 谁是Alexandr Wang * 00:04:10 – Meta收购Scale股份与AI人才大战 * 00:07:33 – Alex作为二代华人移民的早年经历 * 00:09:18 – 从MIT辍学到加入YC及创业 * 00:12:23 – 早期员工爆料：对Alex的初印象和面试风格 * 00:26:11 – 数据标注的难度与护城河 * 00:31:31 – 劳工争议与运营挑战 * 00:37:11 – Alex Wang与Sam Altman的关系 * 00:40:52 – 转向国防与政治姿态 * 00:50:45 – DEI vs. MEI 争议 * 00:57:12 – Alex与扎克伯格的关系 * 01:03:09 – Super Intelligence Lab未来将会如何？ * 00:02:44 – Who is Alexandr Wang * 00:04:10 – Meta’s acquisition of Scale shares and the AI talent war * 00:07:33 – Alex’s early years as a second-generation Chinese immigrant * 00:09:18 – From dropping out of MIT to joining YC and starting a company * 00:12:23 – Early employee insights: first impressions of Alex and his interview style * 00:26:11 – The difficulty and moat of data labeling * 00:31:31 – Labor disputes and operational challenges * 00:37:11 – Alexandr Wang’s relationship with Sam Altman * 00:40:52 – Shift toward defense and political positioning * 00:50:45 – The DEI vs. MEI controversy * 00:57:12 – Alex and Mark Zuckerberg’s relationship * 01:03:09 – What’s next for the Super Intelligence Lab? 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 * 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 * 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 * 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 本期嘉宾： * 小蒋：人工智能从业者，Scale AI早期员工 【拓展链接 The Links】 * The Information：《名声、争议与财富：亿万富翁 Alexandr Wang 硅谷崛起全记录》 - Fortune：《走近 Alexandr Wang 的崛起与 Meta 斥资 140 亿美元的豪赌》 * Forbes：《22 岁创始人如何把 Scale AI 打造成数十亿美元企业》 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： * 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl * 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl * Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected]

【聊了什么The What】 当你的Twitter feed成精，会拍出一部怎样的电影？答案就是HBO的新电影《Mountainhead》。 本期节目，我们和疲惫娇娃和美轮美换共同畅聊这部《继承之战》导演的最新力作。雪山豪宅里的四个科技巨头，一边俯瞰着因自家AI而陷入动荡的世界，一边上演着堪比现实硅谷大佬群聊的扯皮与交锋。为什么说这部电影像是“All-in Podcast”成了精？四个主角如何分别对应现实中的硅谷大佬们？当硅谷tech bro提起“有效加速主义”（E/acc）、创始人主权（Founder Sovereignty）与“大教堂”（The Cathedral）黑话时，他们到底在说什么？改变世界的宏愿如何一步步成为“想当皇帝”的委婉表达？如何用第一性原理重新发明公交车？ What kind of movie would your Twitter feed make if it came to life? The answer might just be HBO’s new film Mountainhead. In this episode, we team up with our friends at 疲惫娇娃CyberPink and 美轮美换 American Roulette to dive into the latest work by the director of Succession. Set in a luxurious alpine mansion, the film follows four tech moguls as they gaze down at a world spiraling into chaos—thanks to their own AI creations—while engaging in arguments and power plays that feel eerily reminiscent of a real-life Silicon Valley group chat. Why does this film feel like the All-In Podcast personified? Which of the four characters map onto real-world tech titans? And when these Silicon Valley tech bros throw around buzzwords like "Effective Accelerationism (E/acc)," "Founder Sovereignty," and "The Cathedral"—what are they really talking about? How do lofty ambitions to "change the world" morph into thinly veiled power grabs? And what does it mean to reinvent public transportation from first principles? 【时间轴 The When】 * 03:39 我们最喜欢的编剧把我们的推特故事线拍成电影了 * 08:15 四位主角是如何“缝合”现实中的硅谷大佬们？ * 15:56 硅谷意识形态的转变：从商业逻辑到宗教信仰 * 32:29 科技大佬的权力渴望与“大教堂”、“创始人主权”、“Luxury Belief” * 42:30 渴望权力，却又想逃避责任的Tech Bro文化 * 54:29 警惕权力的新外衣与我们应有的警惕 * 03:39 Our favorite screenwriter turns our Twitter storylines into a movie * 08:15 How the four protagonists are “stitched together” from real-life Silicon Valley moguls * 15:56 The ideological shift in Silicon Valley: from business logic to religious belief * 32:29 Tech elites’ thirst for power: “The Cathedral,” “Founder Sovereignty,” and “Luxury Beliefs” * 42:30 The Tech Bro dilemma—craving power while dodging responsibility * 54:29 The new disguise of power and why we must remain vigilant 【拓展链接 The Links】 * [Peter Thiel被问到“你希望人类继续持续下去对吧？”的迟疑爆红视频] * 小华提到的漫画：“参议院的老板们”——1889 [image.png] 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 * 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 * 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 * 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： * 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl * 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod * 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: * Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl * Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod * Business Inquiries Email: [email protected]

【聊了什么 The What】 在这期节目中，新新人类探讨了硅谷文化的右转现象，重点关注了一个显著征兆："恶德信号"。 如果说 Virtue Signaling 是将"政治正确"公开展示，并在硅谷的右转浪潮中遭到反噬，那么 Vice Signaling ——恶德信号—— 则是高举"我不善良，但真实"的旗帜。在加速主义笼罩下的硅谷，"理性崇拜"、恶德展示和"赛博雄性"已成为主流文化。节目通过分析特朗普、马斯克、Mark Zuckerberg 的 bad-boy makeover，Bryan Johnson刻意营造的"吸血鬼"式的biohacking，以及基因编辑狂人贺建奎在X平台的表演，深入解读了当代硅谷的时代情绪。另外和大家说一句：这期节目是六月份录制的，很多事件都经历了变化，这些变化也在默默证实这期节目当中我们讨论到的"恶德信号"的现象。 In this episode, Pixel Perfect discusses Silicon Valley's rightward cultural shift, focusing on a notable phenomenon: "vice signaling." While virtue signaling is about publicly displaying "political correctness" - which has faced backlash amid Silicon Valley's rightward wave - vice signaling raises the banner of "I'm not virtuous, but I'm authentic." Under the shadow of effective accelerationism (e/acc), Silicon Valley's mainstream culture has become dominated by rationality worship, vice signaling, and cyber masculinity. The show provides an in-depth analysis of the contemporary Silicon Valley zeitgeist through examining Trump, Musk, and Mark Zuckerberg's bad-boy makeover, Bryan Johnson's deliberately cultivated "vampire-like" biohacking, and gene-editing maverick He Jiankui's performances on X platform. 【时间轴 The When】 00:02:39 主播抛出 Vice Signaling 概念 00:19:47 Mark Zuckerberg：从书呆子程序员到金链子的 180° 转弯 00:22:08 Bryan Johnson：吸血鬼式长生实验与 “Don’t Die” 哲学 00:28:14 雄性文化 & 贺建奎：当疯狂科学家遇上社媒表演，贺建奎 X 自导 “反派叙事” 00:50:02 Peter Thiel: Vice Signaling 投资教父现身 01:09:46 旧金山那些充满黑话的广告牌：恶德展示的平台、只跟 AI 圈内人说话 01:14:25 有效加速主义的乌托邦 00:02:39 Hosts introduce the concept of Vice Signaling 00:19:47 Mark Zuckerberg: A 180° turn from nerdy programmer to gold chain wearer 00:22:08 Bryan Johnson: Vampire-like longevity experiments and the "Don't Die" philosophy 00:28:14 Masculinity Culture & He Jiankui: When mad scientists meet social media performance, He Jiankui's self-directed "villain narrative" 00:50:02 Peter Thiel: The godfather of Vice Signaling appears 01:09:46 San Francisco's cryptic billboards: A platform for displaying vices, speaking only to AI insiders 01:14:25 The utopia of effective accelerationism 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 【拓展链接 The Links】 Meet Cathy Tie, Bride of “China’s Frankenstein”: The creator of CRISPR babies is flirting again with infamy, this time through a mysterious alliance with an Internet-savvy entrepreneur. The Wink from Tech Billboards: From Elizabeth Holmes's haunting return to AI-jargon and vice-signaling, Bay Area billboards have become a coded language for a tech world in flux Genes for Memes: He Jiankui and gene editing fantasies 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: [email protected]

【聊了什么 The What】 上一期聊中国工厂背后的全球化逆流打开了几位主播的话匣子，身处在动荡、多变的当下，我们越来越多看到同龄的新新人类开始陷入怀旧的情绪：从小时候观看奥运会和世博会的懵懂的激动，到互联网如何打开我们探索世界的大门，那个时代好像有一种开放、灿烂、向全世界问好的基调。朴树在千禧年写下“穿新衣吧，剪新发型呀。轻松一下，Windows 98”，却在2017年把这首歌改写成“时光不再，已不是我们的世界。它早已物是人非，让人崩溃意冷心灰”，去看看这两首歌的评论区，你就会看到大家都能感受到同样的集体情绪。 所以这期播客里，主播们一起检视了这种情绪转变，当我们在怀念古早互联网和全球化潮流的时候怀念的到底是什么？我们发现，作为和互联网共同长大的第一代人，科技带领我们见了世面、走到海外，我们却越来越想要回归 low-tech 的设备和不智能的软件。安蕤给我们科普了什么是“中式梦核”，这些蓝玻璃旧商场的意象，带着一层阴暗诡异的滤镜，代表着我们对过去又怀念又遗憾的情绪。不过即使在陷入算法网络的今天，互联网还是给我们了一些希望：全球化的未来，可能就藏在东华金龙的 TikTok 视频评论区里。 In the last episode, the discussion about the backlash against globalization around Chinese factories really kept us thinking. Living in a time of turbulence and change, we increasingly see our peers evoking a sense of nostalga: from the excitement of watching the Olympics and World Expo as kids, to the way the internet opened the door for us to explore the world, there seemed to be a tone of openness and optimism in that era. Back in the millennium, Pu Shu wrote, “Put on new clothes, get a new haircut. Let’s have some fun, Windows 98,” but by 2017, he rewrote the song as “Time is gone, this is no longer our world. Everything has changed, leaving us devastated and disheartened.” Take a look at the comment sections of both songs, and you’ll see that everyone feels this collective emotion. So in this episode, the hosts examined this emotional shift. When we look back fondly on the early internet and the wave of globalization, what exactly are we nostalgic for? We found that, as the first generation to grow up alongside the internet, technology showed us the world and took us overseas—yet we’re increasingly turning to low-tech devices and non-AI software. Anrui explained to us what “Chinese Dreamcore” is: these images of blue buildings and deserted malls through an eerie filter reflect a sense of yearning and regret for the past. But even in today’s algorithm-driven internet, there’s still some hope: the future of globalization might just be hiding in the comment sections of Donghua Jinlong’s TikTok videos. 【时间轴 The When】 * 00:03:00 – 哈佛女孩刘亦婷那个时代对成功的想象 * 00:10:26 – 08年奥运会与10年世博会的大时代感 * 00:23:28 – 互联网和娱乐工业让我了解千里之外的世界 * 00:30:32 – 智能手机如此发达，我们却开始怀念一次性相机 * 00:32:50 – 什么是中式梦核，为什么它让我们隐隐不安？ * 00:44:56 – 我们是第一代怀旧记忆与互联网无法分割的人 * 01:00:15 – 人工智能算法主导的互联网让人群之间越来越分裂和封闭 * 01:06:58 – TikTok上的工厂视频却能引起跨文化的共鸣 * 00:03:00 – Perceiving the success of Liu Yiting, the “Harvard girl” * 00:10:26 – Optimism in the 2000s: the 08 Olympics and 10 World Expo * 00:23:28 – Meeting the world through Western songs and iTunes * 00:30:32 – Smartphones are out; disposable cameras are in * 00:32:50 – What is “Chinese Dreamcore” and why does it make us uncomfortable? * 00:44:56 – The first generation that can’t be nostalgic without bringing up the internet * 01:00:15 – An algorithm-driven internet is isolating people * 01:06:58 – Yet TikTok factory videos can still bridge cultures 【我们是谁 Who We Are】 新新人类是一档由几个与互联网一起长大的新生代科技记者主持的播客，致力于站在中美交汇点上，解读全球科技潮流与人文的交织。 马修：一个网瘾晚期的全职养猫人 杜安蕤：一个想当裁缝的科技/文化撰稿人 一闻：一个对地铁比手机更上瘾的记者 【拓展链接 The Links】 * 黄河山，“中式梦核”艺术家，小红书账号@黄河山hhs * “Why Chinese manufacturers are going viral on TikTok,” MIT Technology Review 【支持我们 Please Support Us】 如果喜欢这期节目并愿意支持我们： 海外用户：patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl 海内用户：afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod 商务合作邮箱：[email protected] If you like our show and want to support us, please consider the following: Those Abroad: patreon.com/c/pixelperfect_xxrl Those in China: afdian.com/a/pixelperfectpod Business Inquiries Email: [email protected]