两个在初创和大厂之间反复横跳的人，终于坐下来把这些年的职业弯路摊开聊了聊。不是什么逆袭故事，就是普通人在"我到底想干什么"这个问题上，摸爬滚打了十年之后的一些真心话。如果你也正处在职业迷茫期，也许会在我们的故事里找到一点共鸣和陪伴。
本期主播：
至卉：生活在中国，注册营养师兼创业公司产品经理，职业上靠研究食物谋生，生活中靠“用嘴表达”解压，持续探索生活与自我的可能性。ENFJ射手，激情高昂，内心柔软。
翠翠：生活在英国，工科博士在读，生活方式试验爱好者，从南京初创公司到北京大厂再到英格兰校园，像河一样流出自己的人生路径。INFJ白羊，平淡内敛，一身反骨。
时间戳
Part 1 我们的十年职业经历
00:00 在社会上十年，两个普通女性混成了啥样？
01:50 翠翠：职业起点就在初创公司，三年爱过也恨过
04:20 翠翠：放弃体面岗位，奔赴专业领域，辞职出国读博
09:23 至卉：脱不下孔乙己的长衫，结果只是大厂纺织女工
12:56 至卉：上市集团到草台班子，落差下探索喜欢的领域
Part 2 学到的本事和踩过的坑
13:48 大公司VS初创，通用技能VS十项全能
19:55 工作是拿时间换想要的东西，不必面面俱到赢得上级认可
23:23 小公司灵活自由的另一面
25:54 逃离渣男式的跳槽是跳火坑，知己知彼才是正解
30:53 拿回主动权，建立护城河，不再把职业选择权交给别人
Part 3 本命职业路径的探索
33:12 走过的路，都算数
35:36 我也想被大佬带飞，没有大佬我就成为那个大佬
38:27 天降真命天子不存在，本命职业也不是完美匹配
41:25 不去找正确答案，而是注重自我感受
45:53 别人眼里的风光VS自己眼里的价值
49:09 五年后的职业期待：开花结果，成为大佬
延伸阅读 / 相关推荐
- 知己知彼，百战不殆 ——《孙子兵法》
- 职业教练 / 职业咨询：如果你也在迷茫期，找专业的人聊聊也许会有帮助
How Many Wrong Turns Before You Find Your Path?
About This Episode
Two women who've spent a decade bouncing between startups and big corporates finally sit down to untangle their career journeys. This isn't a success story — it's an honest look at what happens when you don't have a grand plan, when you pick jobs the way you might pick a rebound relationship, and when the path you're drawn to doesn't come with a manual or a mentor. If you're in the middle of your own career fog, there might be something here for you.
Timestamps
Part 1: Our Decade in the Working World
- 00:00 After ten years out there, where have two ordinary women ended up?
- 01:50 Cuicui: Started her career at a startup — three years of devotion and heartbreak
- 04:20 Cuicui: Walking away from a comfortable position to chase her professional edge — quitting to pursue a PhD abroad
- 09:23 Zhihui: Clinging to the "elite graduate" identity, only to find herself a factory worker at a loom in big tech
- 12:56 Zhihui: From a listed corporate to a scrappy little team — finding what she actually loves through the free fall
Part 2: Lessons Learnt and Potholes Hit
- 13:48 Big company vs startup: being a polished cog vs becoming a Swiss army knife
- 19:55 Work is trading your time for what you want — you don't have to be perfect at everything to earn approval
- 23:23 The flip side of startup freedom
- 25:54 Jumping ship like you're fleeing a bad relationship can land you in another fire — know yourself and your target first
- 30:53 Taking back control, building your own moat, and refusing to hand your career choices to someone else
Part 3: Finding Your True Calling
- 33:12 Every road you've walked counts for something
- 35:36 I wanted someone brilliant to show me the way — if that person doesn't exist, I'll become them myself
- 38:27 There's no dream job falling from the sky — your calling isn't a perfect match waiting to be found
- 41:25 Stop hunting for the "right answer" — start listening to how you actually feel
- 45:53 What others call success vs what feels valuable to you
- 49:09 Five years from now: blooming, bearing fruit, and becoming that person you once wished would mentor you
Further Reading
- "Know yourself, know your opponent" — The Art of War by Sun Tzu
- Career coaching: if you're in a fog, talking to a professional can genuinely help
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