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来源：小宇宙
This is Echora’s new podcast series, ”Global Echo”, We’ll invite scholars in the humanities for half-academic, half-casual conversations—packed with pro insights but never hard to follow—hoping to bring the charm of the humanities to more people.
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🌟Echora Host
Adella @Adella GuGu
* Translator of（Chinese version）
* First Prize of the CUHK Literary Award（全球华文青年文学奖）
🌟Global Guest
Mark Robbins
* Fudan Chair Professor at Fudan University’s Institute of Global Public Policy
* Emeritus Professor in the School of Public Policy at the University of Connecticut
Robbins’ research is principally focused in two areas; state and local government finance and citizen preferences for taxing and spending. His research includes studies of state and local government debt, state budgets and tax preferences.
🌟Global Content
In this episode, we sit down with Mark Robbins, a public finance professor at Fudan University’s Institute for Global Public Policy. He doesn’t talk like a typical economist. He started in psychology — so he’s obsessed with one question: Why do we hate paying taxes, but love what taxes can buy?
We get real about:
🧋 Milk tea & invisible taxes – Is your bubble tea more expensive because of a consumption tax? And who really pays for it?
🏠 Rent & commuting – Why “living far from work” isn’t just your choice. It’s written into the city’s budget.
👵 Pension panic – You pay for today’s elderly. Will anyone pay for you? And what does “intergenerational fairness” even mean?
🧠 The “framing effect” – Why “building a school for your child” sounds great, but “raising your property tax” sounds awful — even though they’re the same thing.
🌆 City vibes vs. survival – Do you choose a city for nightlife, parks, or just affordable housing? And how does public spending shape that choice?
This isn’t a lecture on fiscal policy. It’s a raw, honest conversation about the invisible architecture that shapes your rent, your anxiety, your future — and what you can actually do about it.
🌟Echo Colonnade
* THE PRESS
🌟Timestamps
01:55 From Psychology to Finance
04:29 Tax Aversion: Why one word makes us reject good policies
06:36 Fiscal Illusion: The disconnect between the taxes we pay and reality
08:38 Intergenerational Equity: Who really wins and losses in the policy game?
12:57 Why wouldn't a free year of kindergarten change your mind about having kids？
18:16 The "Abandoned" Generation: Why young people leave our parents to grow up
25:11 Preschool services vs. one-time baby bonus
30:20 Can our social insurance system survive when people all live way too long
35:07 Who really pays for your pricier milk tea when taxes go up
40:11 From Infrastructure Gaps to Young People's Tax Preferences
45:40 How Young People Choose a City: Salary, Housing, Nightlife
55:47 Should Future Generations Pay for Today's High-Speed Rail?
01:00:06 Give Yourself Permission to Pause
01:06:37 Please ask Better Questions, and measure What Truly Matters
01:13:30 Q&A How to Balance Tax for AI Industry vs. Social Welfare?
01:18:46 Q&A Facing AI Uncertainty: Save Money or Take Stressful Jobs?
01:22:19 Q&A Will US Dollar Collapse Under Mounting Federal Debt?
01:25:55 Q&A How Will China's Fiscal Model Evolve After Land Sales Peak?
🌟About Echora
Echora is a community for cultural resonance initiated by veteran humanities creators—translators, freelance writers, literary editors, and more. It dedicates itself to exploring an ecology of humanities and social sciences content that carries intellectual depth yet remains accessible, profound without being obscure.
We regularly craft fluid conversational gatherings in urban humanities spaces, where through diverse perspectives we perceive, unpack, and confront the plights of real life. May the contours of growth become threads weaving through each other’s lives; may we find, within this spiritual aura, the courage to face life head-on.
🌟About THE PRESS
Shun Pao Building was established in 1918.It was the newspaper office of Shun Pao, the longest-running and most influential newspaper in modern China. Standing here for more than a century, this magnificent historical building has witnessed the prosperity and decay of Shun Pao, the relaunch of Jiefang Daily. Nowadays, after a complete renovation, it has become the foundation for Shanghai catering industry, cultural development and creative brands.THE PRESS is one of them.
On April 30, 2015, sponsored by several Fudan alumni,THE PRESS's first innovative restaurant opened here. Stepping into THE PRESS, the well-preserved carved dome in the lobby, together with a whole wall of documentary photos of Shun Pao tell the world its glory and stories.
🌟Teams members
* Host: Adella
* Planner: Gen
* Producer: Eason @复杂生活@好状态说明书
🌟Music
* Rootless tree – Damien Rice
* Jets – Blur
🌟Contact Us
* Email：[email protected] [email protected]
* Wechat：sunmerineason
-------------------------
🌟Echora Host
Adella @Adella GuGu
* Translator of
* First Prize of the CUHK Literary Award（全球华文青年文学奖）
🌟Global Guest
Mark Robbins
* Fudan Chair Professor at Fudan University’s Institute of Global Public Policy
* Emeritus Professor in the School of Public Policy at the University of Connecticut
Robbins’ research is principally focused in two areas; state and local government finance and citizen preferences for taxing and spending. His research includes studies of state and local government debt, state budgets and tax preferences.
🌟Global Content
In this episode, we sit down with Mark Robbins, a public finance professor at Fudan University’s Institute for Global Public Policy. He doesn’t talk like a typical economist. He started in psychology — so he’s obsessed with one question: Why do we hate paying taxes, but love what taxes can buy?
We get real about:
🧋 Milk tea & invisible taxes – Is your bubble tea more expensive because of a consumption tax? And who really pays for it?
🏠 Rent & commuting – Why “living far from work” isn’t just your choice. It’s written into the city’s budget.
👵 Pension panic – You pay for today’s elderly. Will anyone pay for you? And what does “intergenerational fairness” even mean?
🧠 The “framing effect” – Why “building a school for your child” sounds great, but “raising your property tax” sounds awful — even though they’re the same thing.
🌆 City vibes vs. survival – Do you choose a city for nightlife, parks, or just affordable housing? And how does public spending shape that choice?
This isn’t a lecture on fiscal policy. It’s a raw, honest conversation about the invisible architecture that shapes your rent, your anxiety, your future — and what you can actually do about it.
🌟Echo Colonnade
* THE PRESS
🌟Timestamps
01:55 From Psychology to Finance
04:29 Tax Aversion: Why one word makes us reject good policies
06:36 Fiscal Illusion: The disconnect between the taxes we pay and reality
08:38 Intergenerational Equity: Who really wins and losses in the policy game?
12:57 Why wouldn't a free year of kindergarten change your mind about having kids？
18:16 The "Abandoned" Generation: Why young people leave our parents to grow up
25:11 Preschool services vs. one-time baby bonus
30:20 Can our social insurance system survive when people all live way too long
35:07 Who really pays for your pricier milk tea when taxes go up
40:11 From Infrastructure Gaps to Young People's Tax Preferences
45:40 How Young People Choose a City: Salary, Housing, Nightlife
55:47 Should Future Generations Pay for Today's High-Speed Rail?
01:00:06 Give Yourself Permission to Pause
01:06:37 Please ask Better Questions, and measure What Truly Matters
01:13:30 Q&A How to Balance Tax for AI Industry vs. Social Welfare?
01:18:46 Q&A Facing AI Uncertainty: Save Money or Take Stressful Jobs?
01:22:19 Q&A Will US Dollar Collapse Under Mounting Federal Debt?
01:25:55 Q&A How Will China's Fiscal Model Evolve After Land Sales Peak?
🌟About Echora
Echora is a community for cultural resonance initiated by veteran humanities creators—translators, freelance writers, literary editors, and more. It dedicates itself to exploring an ecology of humanities and social sciences content that carries intellectual depth yet remains accessible, profound without being obscure.
We regularly craft fluid conversational gatherings in urban humanities spaces, where through diverse perspectives we perceive, unpack, and confront the plights of real life. May the contours of growth become threads weaving through each other’s lives; may we find, within this spiritual aura, the courage to face life head-on.
🌟About THE PRESS
Shun Pao Building was established in 1918.It was the newspaper office of Shun Pao, the longest-running and most influential newspaper in modern China. Standing here for more than a century, this magnificent historical building has witnessed the prosperity and decay of Shun Pao, the relaunch of Jiefang Daily. Nowadays, after a complete renovation, it has become the foundation for Shanghai catering industry, cultural development and creative brands.THE PRESS is one of them.
On April 30, 2015, sponsored by several Fudan alumni,THE PRESS's first innovative restaurant opened here. Stepping into THE PRESS, the well-preserved carved dome in the lobby, together with a whole wall of documentary photos of Shun Pao tell the world its glory and stories.
🌟Teams members
* Host: Adella
* Planner: Gen
* Producer: Eason @复杂生活@好状态说明书
🌟Music
* Rootless tree – Damien Rice
* Jets – Blur
🌟Contact Us
* Email：[email protected] [email protected]
* Wechat：sunmerineason
小宇宙热评
花花开的时候
2个月前
河南
3
学到了一句话：学会按下暂停，与压力和解。
I’ve learned a valuable lesson：Learn to pause, and come to terms with life’s pressures.
ber就要个果盘儿
2个月前
湖北
2
年轻人选城市，看工资、住房还是氛围，背后都是公共支出在影响。土地财政要变了，我们的生活也会跟着变，真的要多了解这些，不然稀里糊涂被影响都不知道。
HD小木屋
2个月前
河南
2
“听完这段关于教育压力与养老保障的讨论，我深有同感——我们这代人既怕给孩子‘复刻’自己曾经历的教育焦虑，又对未来的养老契约充满怀疑。这种‘想生又不敢生’‘想信又不敢信’的纠结，真的像被夹在两代人的夹缝里，每一步都走得小心翼翼。”
奶气满满
2个月前
河南
2
这不就是当代年轻人精神状态实录嘛，一边骂内卷一边熬夜加班，我本人了。
人间尽兴客
2个月前
四川
2
梦回听力考试现场🤣🤣🤣...我觉得在小县城就挺好的，工作压力不大，生活便利性也还行
牛奶小布丁吖
2个月前
江苏
2
听了这期节目，真的是练习了听力😄，我也觉得现在子女跟父母关系有点儿疏远，没有共同话题，更喜欢彼此单独待着，缺乏家庭氛围感
清风徐来sw
2个月前
天津
2
从奶茶税到养老金，原来生活每个选择背后都有一本“城市账本”。Mark教授用心理学解构公共政策，让冰冷的税收突然有了温度。
美酒醉人
2个月前
浙江
2
A lot of our tiredness doesn’t come from not working hard enough, but from being pushed forward by a whole set of invisible fiscal and social rules.
天天芯芯
2个月前
湖北
2
这期是全英文访谈呀，虽然有点挑战，但能听到学者从公共财政角度聊“为什么活得累”，视角好独特！正好顺便练练听力，期待干货～
束河元年
2个月前
四川
2
有点水平的全英文讲解啊，我这英语水平还是有待提高啊哈哈哈。
小三影子
2个月前
浙江
2
主播的英语水平真厉害，我正好想找个英语节目练练听力，主播的节目就是我想要的，节目表达的观点也很好，讨论当今社会热门话题
花花开的时候
2个月前
河南
1
The comment should be written in English.
跃羽
2个月前
四川
1
1:00:48 按下暂停键好好休息是为了更好的上路，卷不动的时候想想自己是为了什么
Eason发现故事
2个月前
上海
1
听众的水平也太高了🥹
樱桃小丸子1
2个月前
四川
1
这期全英文访谈太有深度了，Mark教授从公共财政拆解生活焦虑，视角独特，听完对内卷、养老有了新思考✨
萌家花儿
2个月前
湖北
1
纯英语播放，有点意思，80.90最苦逼的一代，啥都没赶上，赶上了延迟退休，赶上了物价飞涨，赶上了房奴，身心俱疲，可是还得不停的奔跑，因为上有老下有老，还有自己要养。
空城旧语
2个月前
福建
0
梦回英语听力考试，哈哈哈
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