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【聊了什么The What】

这期我们把Ted Lasso和The Bear这两部剧糅在一起聊， 虽然一部发生在绿茵场上，一部发生在厨房里，但是这两部剧都跟随着相同的故事蓝本——人如何化解创伤，寻找自己？如何在工作和团队中沟通，化解摩擦？ 后疫情时代的2023年，探讨这些角色之间的摩擦和冲突如何被书写，探讨这些角色如何从创伤中恢复，重新找到并定义自己，在一定程度上也是探讨我们自己——我们如何理解自己的情绪？我们如何解读家人、同事、合作者、队友和友人的行为？我们如何在合作中了解自己、在摩擦中建立深厚的连接、在创伤中成长？

本期嘉宾：Dr. Eileen Cheng-yin Chow 周成蔭 教授

In this episode, we bring together two beloved shows—Ted Lasso and The Bear— to discuss how although one takes place on the football pitch and the other in the kitchen, both follow the same narrative blueprint. How do people resolve trauma and find themselves? How do they communicate and resolve friction at work and in teams? In 2023, the post-pandemic era, we explore how the conflicts between these characters are written, how they recover from trauma, rediscover and redefine themselves. We also explore ourselves to some extent - how do we understand our own emotions? How do we interpret the behaviors of family, colleagues, partners, teammates, and friends? How do we better understand ourselves, build deep connections through frictions, and grow beyond trauma through collaboration?

Our guest: Dr. Eileen Cheng-yin Chow

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【时间轴 The When】

0:00 - 06:10 首次心理咨询体验

06:10 Ted Lasso和The Bear的剧情简介: 体育、成长、代际创伤如何被演绎

16:00 为什么我们会爱上银幕上的“神性脸”和小屏幕上的“邻家脸”?

18:45 在阳刚文化中,这两部剧如何处理情绪化以及受创伤的男人,以及邀请观众用显微镜去观察他们的情绪?

23:00 伤害的脚本一遍一遍上演,哀伤不是线性的,代际创伤如何被具体的场景演绎?

29:40 在美国叙事中,移民如何通过劳作转移痛苦?

35:00 Ted Lasso和The Bear中良好的沟通习惯,以及从“根”上开始争吵的现实

40:05 Ted Lasso中的剧情互文——文化冲突和个人创伤

44:58 Ted Lasso如何通过吸纳文学内容来构建一个心理上的”安全空间“,以及为什么我们喜欢看运动故事——连载剧,聚焦当下

52:00 心理治疗如何干预惯性沟通,让你的快乐小狗复活?

59:40 小杨和Eileen关于文化隔阂和心理咨询的故事

1:03:00 焦虑让人上瘾——移民的焦虑存在状态,历史中芝加哥唐人街的底层华人的心理经历

1:09:00 移民的生存状态是一部分的自己生活在过去

1:15:00 我们不磕Carmy和Sydney的原因

1:22:30 女性没有被演出来的中年危机

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06:10 - Synopses of Ted Lasso and The Bear: how sports, growth, and intergenerational trauma are portrayed

16:00 - Why do we become enamored with "divine faces" on the big screen and "familiar faces" on the small screen?

18:45 - Within masculine cultures, how are these two shows handling emotional, traumatized men and inviting the audience to observe their emotions microscopically?

23:00 - We see the script of harm play out repeatedly throughout both shows, and we observe how grief is not linear. How do these two shows portray intergenerational trauma through scenes?

29:40 - In the all-American narrative, how do immigrants ease their pain through labor?

35:00 - We discuss effective communication habits in Ted Lasso and The Bear, and the reality of how arguments always start from the “root”

40:05 - Intertextuality in Ted Lasso's plot - cultural conflicts and personal trauma

44:58 - How Ted Lasso constructs a psychological "safe space" by incorporating literary content, and why we enjoy watching sports stories

52:00 - How can going to therapy intervene with our engrained ways of communication and revive one's happy “inner puppy”?

59:40 - Our host Xiao Yang and Guest Eileen's stories on cultural gaps and going to therapy

1:03:00 - Anxiety is addictive - the existential anxiety of immigrants and the psychological experiences of lower-class Chinese immigrants in Chicago's Chinatown (history lesson time)

1:09:00 - To survive, immigrants are always partially living in the past

1:15:00 - Why we don't romanticize Carmy and Sydney's relationship

1:22:30 - There’s not enough portrayal of women going through mid-life crises on the big or small screen

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