【聊了什么 The What】
这个四月，疲惫娇娃被邀请去了大城市东京参加两年一度的星战庆典。
这个地表浓度最高的星战粉丝盛会是一个持续了三十多年的文化现象，也是一个迪士尼的商业帝国和星战的跨越多个时代的原生粉丝文化的结合，这次的日本庆典是近几届中规模最大的一届，也在各种细节中致敬了日本的历史和文化。
我们除了在红毯上采访到了巨多明星以外，还有特别多见闻需要和几个女的们yap yap. 所以这期是一集氛围闲聊，主要聊聊阿花和一芳在庆典中的见闻。我们聊了星战粉丝群体的多元化和演变、庆典现场的独特氛围和活动安排、庆典中的重磅官宣（新电影、瑞恩·高斯林等等！）、与《曼达洛人》和《安多》主创及主演的采访体验、星战IP与日本文化的交融等等……
另外这一期的许多提到的和明星们的面对面采访视频都在我们的同名小红书发布了。请大家在小红书上关注我们！《安多》第二季也开播了！欢迎大家点这里回顾我们聊第一季的节目！
In mid-April, CyberPink was invited to Tokyo Japan, to attend Star Wars Celebration! It was our first time at this iconic gathering of all fans across galaxies, but Star Wars Celebration has been around since the late 1990s. It’s a testament to the multi-generational and organic nature of being a Star Wars fan, but also goes to show the commercial prowess of Disney (which acquired LucasFilm in 2012). This year’s celebration in Japan was the largest in recent years and paid tribute to Japanese history and culture in many subtle ways.
Your favorite gals got to join the press line and interview your favorite stars, but that’s not all! In this episode, the gals who went spill the tea with the other gals on what exactly went down at Star Wars Celebration 2025. We talk about the evolving diversity of the Star Wars fanbase (and movies), the unique vibe and programming at the event, major announcements (New movies! New shows! Ryan Gosling!), what it was like interviewing the creators and stars of The Mandalorian and Andor, how the Star Wars IP merges with Japanese culture, and more…
Additionally, many of the face-to-face interview videos with celebrities mentioned in this episode have been posted on our Xiaohongshu account with the same name. Please follow us on Xiaohongshu! Andor Season 2 has also premiered! Feel free to click here to revisit our episode where we discussed Season 1!
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【时间轴 The When】
00:01:10 为什么会被邀请参加？星战庆典背景
00:02:30 星战粉丝群体的演变与自我认知
00:04:23 参与者非常多元化，各个年龄层都有；场地巨大，分为不同展台和舞台；光剑到处都是
00:16:30 “妈妈我们出息了”之红毯采访体验：我们和所有大明星们都聊了一遍天
00:20:06 高司令要进入星战宇宙了
00:27:00 近年星战故事的焦点变化：不再只关注原力/绝地，普通角色戏份增加，《安多》和《曼达洛人》中的风暴兵也很可怕。从“将军的故事”到“生灵的故事”
00:31:07 Pedro Pascal（佩德罗·帕斯卡）采访：关于他的“守护者”角色（《最后生还者》和《曼达洛人》）
00:35:25 回到日本之行与星战文化交融；文化挪用与互相启发/融合的讨论，中国所扮演的角色
00:47:47 迪士尼的商业模式：虽然看起来是粉丝主导的聚会，背后是迪士尼强大的垂直整合商业帝国。通过提供沉浸式体验和产品，巩固其地位
00:50:10 粉丝选择哪个IP是购买选择，是为多巴胺和身份买单
00:53:00 海登·克里斯滕森与安纳金：作为“美强惨”杨过，在东亚女性粉丝中非常受欢迎
00:57:15 下届星战庆典预告：2025年星战50周年，将在美国洛杉矶举办
00:01:10 How did we get invited? What is Star Wars Celebration?
00:02:30 The evolution of the Star Wars fandom and self-perception
00:04:23 Fans from all ages and across the world attended; the venue was massive and divided into various stages, booths, and exhibition space; Lightsabers were everywhere
00:16:30 “Mom, we made it!” Red carpet interview experience: We got to chat with all the major stars
00:20:06 Ryan Gosling is joining the Star Wars universe
00:27:00 The shift in Star Wars storytelling focus: No longer just about the Force or Jedi — more screen time for everyday characters. Even stormtroopers have personalities. From “stories of generals” to “stories of ordinary beings”
00:31:07 Interview with Pedro Pascal: On playing “protector” roles
00:35:25 Return to the fusion of Japan and Star Wars culture; Cultural appropriation vs. mutual inspiration and the role China plays
00:47:47 Even though the celebration feels fan-led, it’s backed by Disney’s powerful vertically integrated empire. Through immersive experiences and products, they’re reinforcing their dominance
00:50:10 Choosing a fandom/IP is like a purchase decision: It’s about paying for dopamine — and identity
00:53:00 Hayden Christensen as Anakin: As the “beautiful, strong, tragic” type, he's especially beloved by East Asian women fans
00:57:15 Teaser for the next Star Wars Celebration: 2025 will mark the 50th anniversary of Star Wars, and the celebration will be held in Los Angeles, USA
【拓展链接 The Links】
Star Wars Celebrations 官网
《安多》第一季的节目！
【疲惫红书 CyberRed】
除了播客以外，疲惫娇娃的几个女的在小红书上开了官方账号，我们会不定期发布【疲惫在读】、【疲惫在看】、【疲惫旅行】、【疲惫Vlog】等等更加轻盈、好玩、实验性质的内容。如果你想知道除了播客以外我们在关注什么，快来小红书评论区和我们互动。
Apart from the podcast, we have set up an official account on Xiaohongshu. We will periodically post content such as “CyberPink Reading,” “CyberPink Watching,” “CyberPink Traveling,” “CyberPink Vlog,” and more. Those are lighter, more fun, and more experimental stuff about our lives. Leave us some comments on Xiaohongshu!
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