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Ep2 儒家:羞耻心

Ep2 儒家:羞耻心

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本期节目聚焦「羞耻作为一种道德情感」,深入探讨古典儒家哲学家对羞耻的理解。我们特别邀请到胡婧博士(Dr Jing Iris Hu),她曾发表学术论文「Shame, Vulnerability, and Change」(《羞耻、脆弱与改变》)。我们将围绕以下几个核心问题展开讨论: 儒家思想为何重视羞耻感? 羞耻感能否以及如何独立于社会评价存在? 儒家提出了哪些机制来培养这种独立性 一个真正具备德行的人是否还需要羞耻感?时间轴0:00 Part I — 导言 Introduction16:53 Part II — 儒家对羞耻的看法 Confucians on shame16:54 嘉宾介绍:胡婧 Introducing Jing HU19:52胡婧文章的两个主要观点 The two main claims of Hu’s article22:53儒家如何回应“羞耻否定论“ The Confucian response to “shame rejectionism”27:53儒家是否需要真实的“客观”价值观来支撑他们对羞耻的看法?Whether Confucians need real, “objective” values to underwrite their views about shame34:37为什么羞耻的“亲社会取向”是一件好事 Why shame’s pro-social orientation is a good thing42:51我们是否需要羞耻感,才能与他人建立正确的沟通Whether we need a sense of shame in order to have the right communicative channels with others49:45 德性圆满者还需要羞耻感吗?(亚里士多德 vs. 孔子 vs. 宋子) Would a fully virtuous person need a sense of shame?(Aristotle vs. the Confucians vs. Songzi)1:05:13 嘉宾问答环节Closing questions for our guest1:11:16 下期预告Preview of the next episode重点讨论段落子曰:「道之以政,齐之以刑,民免而无耻;道之以德,齐之以礼,有耻且格。」(English version: Analects 2.3, Edward Slingerland’stranslation)目前节目持续更新中,每周一与你见面,欢迎订阅收听!如果你有任何想法或建议,欢迎在评论区留言,或前往 Warp, Weft, andWay 网站参与讨论。其他参考资料Jing Iris Hu, “Shame, Vulnerability, and Change“The Analects《論語》(Chinese)The Analects (English translations)The Mencius, also knownas the Mengzi (Chinese, English)Analects 5.1Mencius or Mengzi 6A10Martha Nussbaum, Hiding from Humanity: Disgust, Shame, and the LawCheshire Calhoun, “An Apology for Moral Shame“Marta Jimenez, Aristotle on Shame and Learningto Be GoodChristopher C. Raymond, “Shame and Virtue in Aristotle“Bryan W. Van Norden, “The Emotion of Shame and the Virtue of Righteousness in Mencius“The Xunzi (about Xunzi, Chinese text, English translation)Mencius or Mengzi 4B.33Songzi 宋子Lisa Tessman, Burdened VirtuesSee also Bongrae Seok, Moral Psychology of Confucian Shame特别鸣谢 The Hong Kong Ethics Lab 的支持和赞助,以及 Warp, Weft and Way 网站对讨论环节的支持。主持人: Richard Kim's websiteJustin Tiwald's website音频剪辑 & 中文 show notes: Lena在小宇宙查看该单集文稿

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Ep1 道家:逍遥/无执

Ep1 道家:逍遥/无执

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本期节目以「道家的逍遥/无执」为主题,聚焦《庄子》核心篇章「朝三暮四」,详细讨论其独特的逍遥观。Richard 和 Justin 首先介绍了自己以及开设这一播客系列的初衷。他们深入论述了「哲学的双重视角」,为庄子式的逍遥与无执提供了可能。同时,他们也对这种逍遥/无执理论提出了一些疑虑。时间轴:00:00 Part I — 引言 Introduction6:30 Part II — 道家的逍遥/无执 Daoist detachment6:31 关于庄子 Our particular Daoist: Zhuangzi8:30 「朝三暮四」典故 The monkey-trainer passage10:44 哲学的双重视角 Philosophical double-vision25:05 双重视角与价值区分 Double-vision and value distinctions30:30 为什么我们要采纳哲学的双重视角? Why should we adopt philosophical double-vision?40:38 两种视角如何整合(策略模型 vs. 垄断模型 vs. 其他) How the two perspectives can be integrated (strategic model vs. Monopoly model vs. others)53:28 对道家逍遥的质疑:人际关系 An objection to Daoist detachment: personal relationships1:00:22 另一种质疑:无意义感 An other objection: meaninglessness1:11:05 下期主题 Next week’s topic重点讨论段落 「朝三暮四」劳神明为一,而不知其同也,谓之朝三。何谓朝三?曰狙公赋芧,曰:「朝三而莫四。」众狙皆怒。曰:「然则朝四而莫三。」众狙皆悦。名实未亏,而喜怒为用,亦因是也。是以圣人和之以是非,而休乎天钧,是之谓两行。(English version: Zhuangzi, ch. 2, Paul K Kjellberg's translation)目前节目持续更新中,每周一与你见面,欢迎订阅收听!如果你有任何想法或建议,欢迎在评论区留言,或前往 Warp, Weft, and Way 网站参与讨论。其他参考资料The Zhuangzi 《庄子》 (Chinese)The Zhuangzi (English translations)The Daodejing (Chinese, English)Bryan W. Van Norden, Introduction to ClassicalChinese PhilosophyThomas Nagel, The View from NowhereTerrence Malick (director), The Tree of LifePierre Hadot, Philosophy as a Way ofLifeThe Xunzi, ch. 21, section 5 (Xunzi’s brief criticism of Zhuangzi)Confucius’s dialogue with the Duke of She (on the inescapability of human concerns)P. F. Strawson, “Freedom and Resentment“The Huainanzi, ch. 19, section 9 (story about the unpredictable turns of good and bad fortune)The Zhuangzi, ch. 18, section 4 (Zhuangzi talks to a skull about death)The Zhuangzi, ch. 18, section 2 (Zhuangzi “mourns” the death of his spouse)The Zhuangzi, ch. 6, section 7 (ideal mourner Mengsun Cai)Robert Nozick, The Examined Life:Philosophical MeditationsSee also Justin Tiwald, “Well-Being and Daoism” for more on philosophical double-vision in the Zhuangzi特别鸣谢 The Hong Kong Ethics Lab 的支持和赞助,以及 Warp, Weft and Way 网站对讨论环节的支持。主持人: Richard Kim's website Justin Tiwald's website音频剪辑 & 中文 show notes: Lena在小宇宙查看该单集文稿

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