In this episode, Meg and Amy deep dive into AI, their experiences exploring its capabilities, where they think it will be adapted and where they think it won’t, and more. Both Amy and Meg share how it is or isn’t being used in their respective fields, and Meg shares the fun ways she’s been using it outside of work. Meg 和 Amy深入讨论了人工智能——这个可能对创意行业产生深远影响的发明。她们分享了在探索人工智能及其潜能方面的经验，以及人工智能在哪些领域能起到重要作用。Amy和Meg还分享了在截然不同的工作环境中，她们的日常工作是怎样受到人工智能和高端科技的影响。Meg还在节目结尾，和大家分享了人工智能在提升生活质量方面的妙用。 If you’re reading this in your inbox or on Substack, yay! If you’re not, you can join us on Substack here - where you’ll be the first to know about every new episode and update. And be sure to follow along with us on… Instagram: @spark_podcast WeChat:TheSparkPodcast Little Universe: The Spark Podcast （赵枣Amy_火花） Himalaya: The Spark Podcast 火花电台 NetEase:The Spark Podcast 火花电台 如果你是通过Substack的邮件在阅读有关这集的内容，祝贺！如果你不了解 Sutbstack, 那么，你可以点击这里对我们进行关注。关注以后，你将了解我们所有的更新和动态。 我们其他的官方社交平台有： Instagram: @spark_podcast 微信公众号: TheSparkPodcast 小宇宙: The Spark Podcast （赵枣Amy_火花） 喜马拉雅: The Spark Podcast 火花电台 网易云音乐:The Spark Podcast 火花电台 If this podcast means something to you, it would mean so much to us if you’d be willing to take 30 seconds to do each or all of these three things. First, can you please follow or subscribe to The Spark Podcast? Following The Spark Podcast helps you because you’ll never miss an episode. And it helps us because you’ll never miss an episode. To do this, just go to The Spark Podcast show page on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts, and then just tap the plus sign in the upper right-hand corner or click on follow. This is the most important thing for The Spark. While you’re there, if you’d be willing to give us a five star rating and review and share an episode you loved with a friend, we would be so grateful. We appreciate you very much. Thank you for being here. 如果这个播客对你有意义，如果你愿意花30秒钟做以下这三件事中的任意一件或全部，对我们来说意义重大。首先，请你关注或订阅《The Spark Podcast》。关注《The Spark Podcast》不仅可以帮助你不会错过任何一集节目，还可以帮助我们更加了解你。要做到这一点，只需前往Apple Podcasts、Spotify或你听播客的任何地方的《The Spark Podcast》节目页面，然后点击右上角的加号或关注按钮即可。这是对于《The Spark Podcast》最重要的事情。在那里，如果你愿意给我们一个五星评级和评论，并与朋友分享你喜欢的一集节目，我们将不胜感激。我们非常感谢你的支持。谢谢你的参与。 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thesparkpodcast.substack.com

What you might not know is that when Meg is not behind the mic for The Spark Podcast, she’s writing. Surveyor of life, midwife of stories - the truest thing Meg knows about herself is that she’s a writer. In May of 2022, she started a personal newsletter called Field Notes where she shares her lyrical essays, poems, and personal anecdotes. With Field Notes, she’s created a community of “messy, complicated, brave, courageous, vulnerable, adventurous, kind, wholehearted, free-spirited, perfectly imperfect, follow-your-gut, and lead-with-your-heart kind of people,” as she likes to put it. Her most recent piece, “Keys” - a personal essay about her best friend-breakup, caught the attention of many with a deep resonation around the story she shares and her redefinition of friendship. It also prompted this conversation, where Amy dives deep into conversation with Meg not only about Field Notes and her writing, but about creativity as a whole, what it means to be vulnerable, the difference between vulnerability and oversharing. And more. This conversation is one of Meg and Amy’s most favorite conversations to date. Read “Keys” and the rest of Meg’s Field Notes, and join her community at megdowaliby.substack.com. 也许你不知道的是，当 Meg 卸掉The Spark Podcast火花电台的工作后，她在写作。作为生活的勘测者，故事的助产士，Meg清楚地知道，她其实是一位作家。在 2022 年 5 月，她开始了一份名为《田野笔记Field Notes》的电子报。Meg在其中分享她的抒情散文、诗歌和个人趣闻。 通过《田野笔记Field Notes》，她打造了一个社群。正如她所说，这是一个“混乱、复杂、勇敢、坚韧、脆弱、冒险、善良、真实、自由、完美、随心而行的人”的社群。 她最近的一篇作品，《钥匙Keys》 是一篇关于她与最好的朋友分手的个人散文。这篇文章引起了许多人的关注。读者深刻地共鸣了Meg在随着年岁的增长而发生的对友情的不断重新定义。 这也引发了这次对话。Amy 与 Meg 进行了深入的交流。谈话间不仅涉及到《田野笔记Field Notes 和她的写作，还包括创造力的概念，脆弱的意味，以及表现脆弱与过度分享之间的区别。 这次对话是 Meg 和 Amy 迄今为止最喜欢的对话之一。 阅读《钥匙Keys》和 Meg 的其他《田野笔记Field Notes》，并加入她的社群，网址为 megdowaliby.substack.com。 If you’re reading this in your inbox or on Substack, yay! If you’re not, you can join us on Substack here - where you’ll be the first to know about every new episode and update. And be sure to follow along with us on… Instagram: @spark_podcast WeChat:TheSparkPodcast Little Universe: The Spark Podcast （赵枣Amy_火花） Himalaya: The Spark Podcast 火花电台 NetEase:The Spark Podcast 火花电台 如果你是通过Substack的邮件在阅读有关这集的内容，祝贺！如果你不了解 Sutbstack, 那么，你可以点击这里对我们进行关注。关注以后，你将了解我们所有的更新和动态。 我们其他的官方社交平台有： Instagram: @spark_podcast 微信公众号: TheSparkPodcast 小宇宙: The Spark Podcast （赵枣Amy_火花） 喜马拉雅: The Spark Podcast 火花电台 网易云音乐:The Spark Podcast 火花电台 If this podcast means something to you, it would mean so much to us if you’d be willing to take 30 seconds to do each or all of these three things. First, can you please follow or subscribe to The Spark Podcast? Following The Spark Podcast helps you because you’ll never miss an episode. And it helps us because you’ll never miss an episode. To do this, just go to The Spark Podcast show page on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts, and then just tap the plus sign in the upper right-hand corner or click on follow. This is the most important thing for The Spark. While you’re there, if you’d be willing to give us a five star rating and review and share an episode you loved with a friend, we would be so grateful. We appreciate you very much. Thank you for being here. 如果这个播客对你有意义，如果你愿意花30秒钟做以下这三件事中的任意一件或全部，对我们来说意义重大。首先，请你关注或订阅《The Spark Podcast》。关注《The Spark Podcast》不仅可以帮助你不会错过任何一集节目，还可以帮助我们更加了解你。要做到这一点，只需前往Apple Podcasts、Spotify或你听播客的任何地方的《The Spark Podcast》节目页面，然后点击右上角的加号或关注按钮即可。这是对于《The Spark Podcast》最重要的事情。在那里，如果你愿意给我们一个五星评级和评论，并与朋友分享你喜欢的一集节目，我们将不胜感激。我们非常感谢你的支持。谢谢你的参与。 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thesparkpodcast.substack.com

In this episode, Amy and Meg sit down to talk about the Barbie movie - because it’s a MUST. IYKYK. They talk about their experiences going to see both Barbie and Oppenheimer, how the Barbie movie was received in both America and China, the stark contrast between Barbie and Oppenheimer, and their arrival at this moment in history. 在这集中，Amy和Meg分享了观看电影《芭比》和《奥本海默》截然不同的观影体验，以及这两部电影在中国和美国引起的各类社会反响。在交谈中，两人对比了这两部火遍大江南北的作品的本质不同，以及我们是如何从被奥本海默极其一举一动影响着的历史，走向连芭比娃娃都有话语权的未来。 If you’re reading this in your inbox or on Substack, yay! If you’re not, you can join us on Substack here - where you’ll be the first to know about every new episode and update. And be sure to follow along with us on… Instagram: @spark_podcast WeChat:TheSparkPodcast Little Universe: The Spark Podcast （赵枣Amy_火花） Himalaya: The Spark Podcast 火花电台 NetEase:The Spark Podcast 火花电台 如果你是通过Substack的邮件在阅读有关这集的内容，祝贺！如果你不了解 Sutbstack, 那么，你可以点击这里对我们进行关注。关注以后，你将了解我们所有的更新和动态。 我们其他的官方社交平台有： Instagram: @spark_podcast 微信公众号: TheSparkPodcast 小宇宙: The Spark Podcast （赵枣Amy_火花） 喜马拉雅: The Spark Podcast 火花电台 网易云音乐:The Spark Podcast 火花电台 If this podcast means something to you, it would mean so much to us if you’d be willing to take 30 seconds to do each or all of these three things. First, can you please follow or subscribe to The Spark Podcast? Following The Spark Podcast helps you because you’ll never miss an episode. And it helps us because you’ll never miss an episode. To do this, just go to The Spark Podcast show page on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts, and then just tap the plus sign in the upper right-hand corner or click on follow. This is the most important thing for The Spark. While you’re there, if you’d be willing to give us a five star rating and review and share an episode you loved with a friend, we would be so grateful. We appreciate you very much. Thank you for being here. 如果这个播客对你有意义，如果你愿意花30秒钟做以下这三件事中的任意一件或全部，对我们来说意义重大。首先，请你关注或订阅《The Spark Podcast》。关注《The Spark Podcast》不仅可以帮助你不会错过任何一集节目，还可以帮助我们更加了解你。要做到这一点，只需前往Apple Podcasts、Spotify或你听播客的任何地方的《The Spark Podcast》节目页面，然后点击右上角的加号或关注按钮即可。这是对于《The Spark Podcast》最重要的事情。在那里，如果你愿意给我们一个五星评级和评论，并与朋友分享你喜欢的一集节目，我们将不胜感激。我们非常感谢你的支持。谢谢你的参与。 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thesparkpodcast.substack.com

Meg and Amy sit down for a mid-summer check-in. They talk about what they’ve been up to since the last episode, visiting past versions of themselves, work, Amy’s trip home, and more as they look forward to what fall holds for The Spark. Meg 和 Amy在这仲夏之日，坐下聊了聊过去几个月发生的点点滴滴。她们分享了从刚开始做播客到现在的心态变化，工作上的起起伏伏，以及Amy的回家之旅。在这集的结尾，Meg和Amy分享了对“火花电台”接下来节目的策划和期盼。 If you’re reading this in your inbox or on Substack, yay! If you’re not, you can join us on Substack here - where you’ll be the first to know about every new episode and update. And be sure to follow along with us on… Instagram: @spark_podcast WeChat:TheSparkPodcast Little Universe: The Spark Podcast （赵枣Amy_火花） Himalaya: The Spark Podcast 火花电台 NetEase:The Spark Podcast 火花电台 如果你是通过Substack的邮件在阅读有关这集的内容，祝贺！如果你不了解 Sutbstack, 那么，你可以点击这里对我们进行关注。关注以后，你将了解我们所有的更新和动态。 我们其他的官方社交平台有： Instagram: @spark_podcast 微信公众号: TheSparkPodcast 小宇宙: The Spark Podcast （赵枣Amy_火花） 喜马拉雅: The Spark Podcast 火花电台 网易云音乐:The Spark Podcast 火花电台 If this podcast means something to you, it would mean so much to us if you’d be willing to take 30 seconds to do each or all of these three things. First, can you please follow or subscribe to The Spark Podcast? Following The Spark Podcast helps you because you’ll never miss an episode. And it helps us because you’ll never miss an episode. To do this, just go to The Spark Podcast show page on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts, and then just tap the plus sign in the upper right-hand corner or click on follow. This is the most important thing for The Spark. While you’re there, if you’d be willing to give us a five star rating and review and share an episode you loved with a friend, we would be so grateful. We appreciate you very much. Thank you for being here. 如果这个播客对你有意义，如果你愿意花30秒钟做以下这三件事中的任意一件或全部，对我们来说意义重大。首先，请你关注或订阅《The Spark Podcast》。关注《The Spark Podcast》不仅可以帮助你不会错过任何一集节目，还可以帮助我们更加了解你。要做到这一点，只需前往Apple Podcasts、Spotify或你听播客的任何地方的《The Spark Podcast》节目页面，然后点击右上角的加号或关注按钮即可。这是对于《The Spark Podcast》最重要的事情。在那里，如果你愿意给我们一个五星评级和评论，并与朋友分享你喜欢的一集节目，我们将不胜感激。我们非常感谢你的支持。谢谢你的参与。 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thesparkpodcast.substack.com

Meg and Amy revisited their past episode "Two Cities, Multiple Lives” after three years of turbulence, travel bans, and growth. The world may seem and feel different after the pandemic. However, upon re-listening to the episode and reexamining their lives over the past three years, they realized that instead of splitting lives in between different places, it is in fact, the other way around. Meg 和 Amy 在经历了三年的风风和成长后，重听了三年前录制的单集“两个城市，多种生活”。这个世界在2020年后虽然有所不同，但两位姑娘意识到她们过去在各地的生活并未因为地点的变化而变得更加碎片化。换句话说，我们并非是换一座城市就换一种生活方式。相反，生活如同一条长河，就算起起伏伏，也始终如一。 If you’re reading this in your inbox or on Substack, yay! If you’re not, you can join us on Substack here - where you’ll be the first to know about every new episode and update. And be sure to follow along with us on… Instagram: @spark_podcast WeChat:TheSparkPodcast Little Universe: The Spark Podcast （赵枣Amy_火花） Himalaya: The Spark Podcast 火花电台 NetEase:The Spark Podcast 火花电台 如果你是通过Substack的邮件在阅读有关这集的内容，祝贺！如果你不了解 Sutbstack, 那么，你可以点击这里对我们进行关注。关注以后，你将了解我们所有的更新和动态。 我们其他的官方社交平台有： Instagram: @spark_podcast 微信公众号: TheSparkPodcast 小宇宙: The Spark Podcast （赵枣Amy_火花） 喜马拉雅: The Spark Podcast 火花电台 网易云音乐:The Spark Podcast 火花电台 If this podcast means something to you, it would mean so much to us if you’d be willing to take 30 seconds to do each or all of these three things. First, can you please follow or subscribe to The Spark Podcast? Following The Spark Podcast helps you because you’ll never miss an episode. And it helps us because you’ll never miss an episode. To do this, just go to The Spark Podcast show page on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts, and then just tap the plus sign in the upper right-hand corner or click on follow. This is the most important thing for The Spark. While you’re there, if you’d be willing to give us a five star rating and review and share an episode you loved with a friend, we would be so grateful. We appreciate you very much. Thank you for being here. 如果这个播客对你有意义，如果你愿意花30秒钟做以下这三件事中的任意一件或全部，对我们来说意义重大。首先，请你关注或订阅《The Spark Podcast》。关注《The Spark Podcast》不仅可以帮助你不会错过任何一集节目，还可以帮助我们更加了解你。要做到这一点，只需前往Apple Podcasts、Spotify或你听播客的任何地方的《The Spark Podcast》节目页面，然后点击右上角的加号或关注按钮即可。这是对于《The Spark Podcast》最重要的事情。在那里，如果你愿意给我们一个五星评级和评论，并与朋友分享你喜欢的一集节目，我们将不胜感激。我们非常感谢你的支持。谢谢你的参与。 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thesparkpodcast.substack.com

Meg and Amy reflect on episode 3: Scared But Brave, and episode 4: Hello 2020 - the two episodes recorded before the world as we knew it fell apart. Hello 2020 right? And when they look back they talk about how coincidental it was that the motto they went into to 2020 with, “Scared But Brave,” would be so necessary. They discuss the moments they had to be “scared but brave” over the past three years, and they further explore the concept and juxtaposition that the phrase brings. Life is full of dualities. You can’t have courage or bravery without fear. The only thing they know for sure is that two things can be true. Meg 和 Amy 回顾了播客第三集“恐惧和勇敢” 和第四集“你好2020”。这两集均录制于口罩事件发生之前。回顾过去三年，当初一句无心的“你好2020”，如今却显得些许沉重。而兼具“恐惧和勇敢”的我们，也被现实逼迫成了“恐惧且勇敢”。过去三年，每个人的生命中都有无数个即将崩溃，但又必须勇敢面对的瞬间。每个人都在恐惧和强大的边缘徘徊。生命中总是充满无数的对立面，正如恐惧和勇敢的存在就如硬币的两面一样，二者相互依存。所以，很多时候，两件事可以对立存在，且同时为真。 If you’re reading this in your inbox or on Substack, yay! If you’re not, you can join us on Substack here - where you’ll be the first to know about every new episode and update. And be sure to follow along with us on… Instagram: @spark_podcast WeChat:TheSparkPodcast Little Universe: The Spark Podcast （赵枣Amy_火花） Himalaya: The Spark Podcast 火花电台 NetEase:The Spark Podcast 火花电台 如果你是通过Substack的邮件在阅读有关这集的内容，祝贺！如果你不了解 Sutbstack, 那么，你可以点击这里对我们进行关注。关注以后，你将了解我们所有的更新和动态。 我们其他的官方社交平台有： Instagram: @spark_podcast 微信公众号: TheSparkPodcast 小宇宙: The Spark Podcast （赵枣Amy_火花） 喜马拉雅: The Spark Podcast 火花电台 网易云音乐:The Spark Podcast 火花电台 If this podcast means something to you, it would mean so much to us if you’d be willing to take 30 seconds to do each or all of these three things. First, can you please follow or subscribe to The Spark Podcast? Following The Spark Podcast helps you because you’ll never miss an episode. And it helps us because you’ll never miss an episode. To do this, just go to The Spark Podcast show page on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts, and then just tap the plus sign in the upper right-hand corner or click on follow. This is the most important thing for The Spark. While you’re there, if you’d be willing to give us a five star rating and review and share an episode you loved with a friend, we would be so grateful. We appreciate you very much. Thank you for being here. 如果这个播客对你有意义，如果你愿意花30秒钟做以下这三件事中的任意一件或全部，对我们来说意义重大。首先，请你关注或订阅《The Spark Podcast》。关注《The Spark Podcast》不仅可以帮助你不会错过任何一集节目，还可以帮助我们更加了解你。要做到这一点，只需前往Apple Podcasts、Spotify或你听播客的任何地方的《The Spark Podcast》节目页面，然后点击右上角的加号或关注按钮即可。这是对于《The Spark Podcast》最重要的事情。在那里，如果你愿意给我们一个五星评级和评论，并与朋友分享你喜欢的一集节目，我们将不胜感激。我们非常感谢你的支持。谢谢你的参与。 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thesparkpodcast.substack.com

Every great story starts at the beginning. Now that The Spark is almost four years old, Meg and Amy wanted to take a look back on how it all started. They reflect on their first two episodes and from it emerges a the topic of growth. Amy shares how she’s learned to less-critical of herself and Meg shares how she’s learned to become more herself and less self-conscious. Taylor Swift and Jay-Z (not Dr. Dre) lyrics are quoted along the way. If you’re reading this in your inbox or on Substack, yay! If you’re not, you can join us on Substack here - where you’ll be the first to know about every new episode and update. And be sure to follow along with us on… Instagram: @spark_podcast WeChat:TheSparkPodcast Little Universe: The Spark Podcast （赵枣Amy_火花） Himalaya: The Spark Podcast 火花电台 NetEase:The Spark Podcast 火花电台 If you like what you hear, please rate and review this podcast on your favorite platform and share it with a friend! If you didn’t, don’t worry about it. It’s fine. 千里之行，始于足下。每一个引人入胜的“后来”，都在“很久很久以前”之后。在火花电台四岁生日之际，Meg和Amy重温创作起点。她们终于克服了恐惧和尴尬，重新聆听了火花电台的第一集和第二集，并且讨论了这四年里二人的变化和成长。Amy分享了她学着如何减少对自己不必要的苛责，Meg分享了她如何更加勇敢地直面自己内心，克服因为自我意识过重而导致的过度局促。霉妹和Jay-Z （在录制的时候，我们以为是Dr.Dre) 的歌词在这集中也起了极大的作用。 如果你是通过Substack的邮件在阅读有关这集的内容，祝贺！如果你不了解 Sutbstack, 那么，你可以点击这里对我们进行关注。关注以后，你将了解我们所有的更新和动态。 我们其他的官方社交平台有： Instagram: @spark_podcast 微信公众号: TheSparkPodcast 小宇宙: The Spark Podcast （赵枣Amy_火花） 喜马拉雅: The Spark Podcast 火花电台 网易云音乐:The Spark Podcast 火花电台 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thesparkpodcast.substack.com

Meg and Amy are back behind the mic again for their first episode of 2023! They share where they’ve been, where they’re going, and what they’ve been up to since the last episode. Plus, what’s new for The Spark and the exciting new way to connect with Meg and Amy and others in The Spark community! Be the first to join in here: https://thesparkpodcast.substack.com/ And be sure to follow along with us on… Instagram: @spark_podcast WeChat:TheSparkPodcast Little Universe: The Spark Podcast （赵枣Amy_火花） Himalaya: The Spark Podcast 火花电台 NetEase:The Spark Podcast 火花电台 If you like what you hear, please rate and review this podcast on your favorite platform! If you didn’t, don’t worry about it. It’s fine. Meg 和 Amy 在2023年带着新的内容，新的平台，还有新的创作灵感卷土重来。在这集中，Meg 和 Amy不仅分享了她们在过去一年中的大起大落，也讨论了在2023年两人将何去何从。另外一个好消息是火花电台的迁移：新的一年，我们正式入驻Substack，一个能让我们和听众有更多活动的平台。如果你想关注我们的动态，并且收到我们的不定时更新，请点击关注：https://thesparkpodcast.substack.com/ 我们其他的官方社交平台有： Instagram: @spark_podcast 微信公众号: TheSparkPodcast 小宇宙: The Spark Podcast （赵枣Amy_火花） 喜马拉雅: The Spark Podcast 火花电台 网易云音乐:The Spark Podcast 火花电台 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thesparkpodcast.substack.com

If you look at the outdoor industry, you usually see one type of person - white men. Alex Kim has set out to change that. Alex Kim is a first generation Korean American. Originally from Maryland, he’s the founder and director of Here Montana. Here Montana, is an outdoor program in Missoula, Montana that serves people of color to increase outdoor recreation around 4 pillars: joy, community, education and engagement. To learn more about Here Montana or to support its mission head to: https://www.heremontana.org And, follow along with Here Montana and Alex on Instagram @here_montana and @atkpics! Thank you so much for listening! We’d love for you to join in on the conversation! If you haven’t already, please rate and review this podcast! You can also connect with us on * Instagram: @spark_podcast * Facebook: @thesparkpodcastwithmegandamy * Wechat public account: TheSparkPodcast * or send us an email at [email protected]! 如果我们仔细反观最近大火的户外产业，作为消费者，我们经常会看到同种类型的模特占据了这个产业的广告牌——白人男性。本期火花电台采访的主人公Alex Kim励志改变这样的业态。 Alex Kim是生长在美国马里兰州的第一代美籍韩裔。如今，他居住在蒙大拿州米苏拉，并且成立了户外组织Here Montana。Here Montana致力于服务有色人种，让更多种族，更多背景的人有机会体验和接触大自然，了解并享受属于所有人的户外资源。Here Montana 的户外体验活动主要围绕四个架构：娱乐性、社群性、教育性、参与性。 如果想深入了解Here Montana，请关注他们的官方网站：https://www.heremontana.org。对Alex感兴趣的听众，也可以通过社交媒体了解他的动态：@here_montana and @atkpics! 感谢聆听我们的最新单集。我们非常希望你也能加入我们的对话。我们也非常希望你能在更个平台上为我们的播客留言和打分！ 你也可以通过以下平台和我们直接交流： * Instagram: @spark_podcast * Facebook: @thesparkpodcastwithmegandamy * 微信公众号：TheSparkPodcast * 或给我们写邮件： [email protected] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thesparkpodcast.substack.com

然这并不是火花电台第一次采访楼佳凯，但这是我们第一次用中文与佳凯对话。佳凯是怎样从一个中国留学生，成长为一位拎着相机设备，义无反顾地深入丛林，牧场，和高山的纪录者？除了腾讯纪录片里收纳的情节，《一次远行》镜头后到底还发生了什么故事？在异国他乡学习生活多年后，如今，佳凯终于回到了老家义乌。他最近在忙什么？生活如何？ 摘下相机的佳凯，是一个什么样的人？希望通过这集，我们都可以更加了解我们的老朋友，故事叙述人，纪录片摄影人楼佳凯。 你可能已经听说过，或者看过腾讯视频的最新纪录片系列《一次远行》。《一次远行》记录了五名中国留学生在疫情期间，人在他乡求学生活的故事。纪录片的最后一集的主角是火花电台采访过的前嘉宾——自由纪录片摄影人楼佳凯。当我们第一次采访佳凯的时候，他人还在美国蒙大拿州的米苏拉。那时的他在人生岔路口徘徊，面临着到底回国，还是继续留在美国工作生活的艰难抉择。如果你看了那集纪录片，那么你一定知道佳凯最终选择了回国发展。《一次远行》的最后镜头定格在了他登机的那一瞬间。但是飞机降落后，发生了什么？在一张单程票的行程结束后，佳凯再次和火花电台隔空重逢。这回，我们用中英双语，畅谈了佳凯在离家多年后，终于回到梦开始的地方的种种经历和感受。 感谢聆听我们的最新单集。我们非常希望你也能加入我们的对话。我们也非常希望你能在更个平台上为我们的播客留言和打分！ 你也可以通过以下平台和我们直接交流： * Instagram: @spark_podcast * Facebook: @thesparkpodcastwithmegandamy * 微信公众号：TheSparkPodcast * 或给我们写邮件： [email protected] You may have seen the recent Tencent Documentary Series, Bon Voyage, that follows five Chinese students living abroad during the pandemic. In the last episode, they follow past Spark guest, Jiakai Lou. When we first talked with Jiakai, he was in Missoula, Montana at the height of the pandemic sitting at a crossroad: To stay in the U.S. or to go. If you’ve seen the documentary, you know that Jiakai ultimately made the decision to go home. His episode closes with him boarding his plane. But what happened after that? Jiakai came back to the Spark to share what life has been like after his plane landed in this two-part conversation (in both English and Mandarin) that you won’t want to miss. Thank you so much for listening! We’d love for you to join in on the conversation! If you haven’t already, please rate and review this podcast! You can also connect with us on * Instagram: @spark_podcast * Facebook: @thesparkpodcastwithmegandamy * Wechat public account: TheSparkPodcast * or send us an email at [email protected]! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thesparkpodcast.substack.com

You may have seen the recent Tencent Documentary Series, Bon Voyage, that follows five Chinese students living abroad during the pandemic. In the last episode, they follow past Spark guest, Jiakai Lou. When we first talked with Jiakai, he was in Missoula, Montana at the height of the pandemic sitting at a crossroad: To stay in the U.S. or to go. If you’ve seen the documentary, you know that Jiakai ultimately made the decision to go home. His episode closes with him boarding his plane. But what happened after that? Jiakai came back to the Spark to share what life has been like after his plane landed in this two-part conversation (in both English and Mandarin) that you won’t want to miss. Thank you so much for listening! We’d love for you to join in on the conversation! If you haven’t already, please rate and review this podcast! You can also connect with us on * Instagram: @spark_podcast * Facebook: @thesparkpodcastwithmegandamy * or send us an email at [email protected]! 你可能已经听说过，或者看过腾讯视频的最新纪录片系列《一次远行》。《一次远行》记录了五名中国留学生在疫情期间，人在他乡求学生活的故事。纪录片的最后一集的主角是火花电台采访过的前嘉宾——自由纪录片摄影人楼佳凯。当我们第一次采访佳凯的时候，他人还在美国蒙大拿州的米苏拉。那时的他在人生岔路口徘徊，面临着到底回国，还是继续留在美国工作生活的艰难抉择。如果你看了那集纪录片，那么你一定知道佳凯最终选择了回国发展。《一次远行》的最后镜头定格在了他登机的那一瞬间。但是飞机降落后，发生了什么？在一张单程票的行程结束后，佳凯再次和火花电台隔空重逢。这回，我们用中英双语，畅谈了佳凯在离家多年后，终于回到梦开始的地方的种种经历和感受。 感谢聆听我们的最新单集。我们非常希望你也能加入我们的对话。我们也非常希望你能在更个平台上为我们的播客留言和打分！ 你也可以通过以下平台和我们直接交流： * Instagram: @spark_podcast * Facebook: @thesparkpodcastwithmegandamy * 或给我们写邮件： [email protected] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thesparkpodcast.substack.com

In this solo episode, Meg caught up with the first foreign exchange student she knew who subsequently became one of her oldest and closest friends. Meg met Diane Schäfer-Surén in highschool on the Oregon Coast. The two take a walk down the memory lane, talking about all the instrumental moments that turned Diane’s foreign exchange experience into one of the best experiences in her life. Today, she works as a regional manager for Cultural Care Au Pair - the same company that made her foreign exchange student experience possible. For Diane, life has come full circle as she now spends her time facilitating au pair experiences for hundreds of young adults in Germany to spend a year in the United States with American families. Thank you so much for listening! We’d love for you to join in on the conversation! If you haven’t already, please rate and review this podcast! You can also connect with us on * Instagram: @spark_podcast * Facebook: @thesparkpodcastwithmegandamy * or send us an email at [email protected] 在这集中，Meg采访了她人生中遇见的的第一位外国交换生。这位交换生也成为了她之后人生路上认识时间最长的挚友——Diane Schäfer-Surén。 Meg在俄勒冈州的高中认识了Diane。在对话中，两个人不仅回顾了高中时期的逸事，Diane更是分享了一些让出国学习成为她人生中亮点的瞬间。今天，Diane是一名地区经理，主要负责文化交流互惠生项目。而经营这个项目的公司，正是多年前负责介绍Diane留学美国公司。如今，Diane 每年都会帮助上百名在德国，甚至欧洲的年轻人来美国学习生活。 感谢聆听我们的最新单集。我们非常希望你也能加入我们的对话。我们也非常希望你能在更个平台上为我们的播客留言和打分！ 你也可以通过以下平台和我们直接交流： * Instagram: @spark_podcast * Facebook: @thesparkpodcastwithmegandamy * 或给我们写邮件： [email protected] This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thesparkpodcast.substack.com