关注视频号【璐璐的英文小酒馆】，主页【商品橱窗】中进入购买即可，满满干货不要错过哦~ Hi, everyone and welcome back to Britain Under the Microscope. 欢迎回来【闲话英伦】. Hi, 安澜. Hi Lulu, hi everyone. So what is the topic for today? Well, I thought today based on some of the comments that we've been receiving and also some of the people that would be meeting, events, I thought today we can talk about the workplace. The workplace. In particular, British workplace etiquette. Etiquette basically means manners, right? Yeah. 就是这种职场的礼仪. I would imagine British workplace etiquette is going to be quite different from the Chinese one. Very different. Very, very, very different. I have so many questions to ask. I mean, I worked with British people before, but I haven't really worked in the full on British environment. It is quite different. It's also a little bit different from America as well. So let's get started with introducing yourself. So you go to the office, first time there, what do you do? To be honest, I think that is one of those questions that is so common but most people don't even think about it. So let's just say we're in Britain first day in the office. I've been here for years and you are the newcomer. Am I to initiate contact or are you gonna come in as new guy and say, hi, I'm the new guy. You would be expected to start the contact. I would say, I haven’t seen you around, are you new here? that sort of thing. And these type of introductions are still relatively formal. So for example, handshakes are still used and also small talk as well. You would be expected to engage a little bit of small talk, which I know for a fact that you really hate. We can talk about small talk in a bit because that is basically an entire topic on its own. Let's talk about the handshakes. So British people don't kiss, don't do the social kissing. No, certainly not in a workplace environment. I think I've seen people doing that, but probably because they also friends? Very close friends probably, but for the first time you don't kiss or hug. What about women and men like, so for example, I've been working here for ages and you are the newcomer. Shall I extend my hand first? You probably extend your hands at the same time. I see and say, nice to meet you. Yeah, nice to meet you. I see. And to talk about ‘small talk’, I absolutely hate the British small talk. I know you do. I don't mind if it's like getting to know each other. But sometimes you know this person very well already, you work with them for ages, and you really have some urgent business or tasks to talk about, but when you get them on the phone or see them in person, you still do a little bit of small talk first. Well, yeah, it's still important to do that. But ironically, in meetings, we don't really engage in that much small talk. But if it's one on one, you do small talk. You do. But how to address people? In Chinese we say 王总，张部长. In the UK, it's all first names.

可以搜索公号【璐璐的英文小酒馆】或者添加【luluxjg2】加入社群，查看文稿和其他精彩内容哦~ Let's talk about the differences. Would you say there are some differences in the not just mentality but personality like this sort of national psyche? There's a difference between your average Aussie and average Kiwi in terms of personality. I think it’s a general rule. New Zealand is very concerned about being polite. We don't like confrontation. Most kiwis hate confrontation. We're very indirect which can be quite annoying, I think for many people; Australians, I found they are a lot more decisive, a lot more direct, a lot more self confident. Sometimes can be even a bit aggressive Australians. It's quite interesting. So even you look at our national foreign policies, so how do our two countries interact globally? New Zealand will always just try and get along with everyone when we make foreign policy decisions, it's usually based on the united nations. Just trying to figuring out what is the right thing to do and sticking to it. We hate being told what to do, America. Australia, on the other hand, is obviously quite staunchly American. They're the big country in the Pacific. They know they're the big country in the Pacific. They expect other people to follow what they say. For lack of a better word, it's kind of like a bully mentality, isn't it？ Yeah, they're the United States of the Pacific. It's like the original bully kind of idea. But this is just, I'm saying for lack of a better word, again, we're not trying to make over generalizations in that sense. You're more than welcome to share your opinion in the comment section if you disagree with us. Now coming back to this, the other difference that is quite obvious is that the fact the native people are different, right? The native people in Australia, they're called aboriginal people. And then in New Zealand is obviously Maori. Would you say that Maori people play a much bigger role in New Zealand compared with aboriginal people, aborigines in Australia？ Yeah, I think so. I would say the Maori population that certainly had a very terrible time at the hands of British colonialism. There is certainly a much greater recognition of Maori culture in wider society than perhaps of aboriginal culture in Australian society. I knew the New Zealand government has... it's over the last 20 years been trying to work with the various Maori tribes, the Iwi, to recognize them to and to try and provide some some support for... an assistance, for the terrible things that happened to them. Australia, the Australian government, I think is now beginning to look at this. But I think while in New Zealand, the main like most New Zealanders accept the importance of Maori culture and Maori and Maori language. I would say that still there are a lot of Australians that would not have the same attitude towards the aboriginal people. I think this is something that most of our audience know very little about. So it's... if you're interested, look into it, at least that's what I feel like from an outsider. I could definitely see Maori people have more of a presence in New Zealand compared with aboriginal people in Australia, but I could be mistaken. Now let us talk about, well, moving away from these very, very heavy topics about history. Let us talk about something a bit more lighthearted. What is or what are some of the things or topics that are going to or are likely to provoke a fight between Aussies and Kiwis, or are there any? No, there's really not that much. Of course we joke about rugby. I won the rugby. No, you won the rugby, cricket, who's got the better beer, 啤酒, 非常重要, but no, there's really not much, people to people, New Zealanders and Australians usually get on pretty well.

《词源考古研究所》-“muscle”"mussel"傻傻分不清楚？嗯，跟老鼠有关！ a.Comes from the Latin word ‘musculus’ which means little mouse. b.The Romans believed that when you flex your muscles, it looks like little mice running under the skin. c.The Romans also thought that mussels looked like little mice (remember the Romans used to eat mice) so that’s why mussels are also called mussels. Hi everyone. And welcome back to our new segment It Means What. Yeah. It’s nice to see you as well. 欢迎大家回来我们的新板块【词源考古研究所】, hi, 安澜. Hi. Lulu, hi, everyone. So 安澜you have been working out a lot, doing a lot of exercises. I've been exercising a bit. So let's talk about the word muscle 肌肉. Okay. So for those of you who know me and see me, that I'm incredibly muscular. Not. I am. I’ve got one muscle. So where does this word come from? Is it from the ancient Greeks where they like to rub themselves with olive oil and then they basically run around naked? No. Okay. It comes from Latin, and it comes from a Latin word ‘musculus’ . Which means? little mouse, 小老鼠. That's because the Romans believe that when you flex your muscles, it looks like little mice running under your skin. You know what I've actually heard that expression in Chinese, I think ages go, I don't know if it's a direct translation from the English etymology, but some people do call, I think it's old fashioned, but they did call muscle 小老鼠. They say I have 小老鼠, I have little mouse. Really? So this is when you're trying to flex your muscle, you're trying to show your muscle, then it looks like a little mouse running around. You can kind of see that, can't you? I think it’s a vivid imagery however not really friendly to people who really are terrified of mice. I like mice, I think they're really cute, but there's also another word in English that comes from ‘musculus’ and probably you can see and guess what it is. It's a type of seafood. I know, mussels就是青口贝, because it sounds exactly the same, muscles, mussels. The pronunciation is Complete the same, the spelling though is different. It's m-u-s-s-e-l-s, and that's because the Romans thought that mussels, i.e. the seafood look like little mice. Again? That's because remember, the Romans used to eat mice. They used to eat mice with honey, it was a delicacy. Okay, for them it's food anyways, so muscles, the seafood looked like another food they ate, which was the mice. I like the muscles, the physical muscles better. I do actually like mussels the seafood as well though. I love mussels, but now you're saying the origin of this word is little mice. I probably have to think twice. Yeah, don't think about it so much.

CAMPAGNA FINANZIATA AI SENSI DEL REG. UE N. 1308/2013 CAMPAIGN FINANCED ACCORDING TO UE REGULATION NO.1308/2013 可以搜索公号【璐璐的英文小酒馆】或者添加【luluxjg2】加入社群，查看文稿和其他精彩内容哦~ Since you're talking about Prosecco, now let's bring the topic back to Prosecco. Now, Mikelino, I know that Prosecco is one of your best selling items, right? Or you only do Prosecco, you do other wine as well? No, no. I do also sell wines or other kind of wines, but Prosecco is my king. Yeah. But why do you think it's so popular? Like compared with some of the other products that you sell？ Easiest answer is because it's super adaptable, super versatile to so many occasions, and we go from a formal dinner, a formal welcoming drink for a dinner to the craziest party that we can have in the nightlife places. This is a 360° of versatility found for such a wine. Prosecco DOC, it's the most exported wine that we have in Italy and this is the reason can use it. I mean, everybody is like every different kind of client there if you're talking to the B to B so from our restaurants to a bar to a club to private event, it's definitely my best selling item to around the 30% of my sales is out of Prosecco DOC. Oh. So adaptability and versatility. Yeah, and also it's very easy to drink, very easy to drink. It goes into cocktails. You can drink it by itself, as a serving style because it could be sweeter or drier according to your preference. So it's really something that find the highest level of applications and the highest number of consumers, not only women or a certain kind but everybody. Yeah. I mean, I totally agree with the versatility and adaptability part, and especially think about my community, I have a community of over 1 million followers. A lot of them, they would probably, like 70% are women, they would like to try some sort of wine, but they can't get into the heavy wine. I mean, we've held some really, really professional big wine sort of wine tasting. And then it seems like people find those very, very hard to accept because they haven't developed their palate so to speak, but Prosecco is just so friendly to beginners in wine tasting. Totally, yes. Yeah. Yes, I agree. Also I was surprised once we, I mean, talking about ourselves, when we started the cooperation with the Revolucion, I was kind of surprised because like nightlife club, I'm open to any kind of clients and Santi was saying, no, we have a very differentiated clientele and we do need the Prosecco, it is not just all about cocktails, despite that as we told before, now the mixology is an important part for Prosecco. This kind of wine is really a different than wine drinking. It's Prosecco drinking. It's a category per se, we could say. It's very different. So I'm gonna ask Santi actually, since Mikelino was saying that you guys were talking about your clientele, their drinking habits, so I'm going to ask is Presecco or sparkling wine in general a popular choice for your customers? OK, as we were talking before concerning the market, a different order from our shops. It's different because the network is different, but in some city, especially Shanghai like we sell a lot of spritz. also because I'm half Italian half Albanian. So in every shop I have a part of Italian community in everywhere. So it's also for that, but not only for that, but in the end, people stay with me say oh I like these, can I try? It's such a great experience drinking Spritz on summer's day and just to remind our… Do you like it? I love it. Just to remind our listeners, Spritz, I hope I'm getting this correct. So Spritz is a sparkling wine like Prosecco, for example Prosecco and some other form of alcohol like for example I drink Aperol Spritz sometimes, so that is Aperol and Prosecco. And I want to say soda, like sparkling water, soda water? And orange slice. Totally right, yes. Yeah. You can be our new bartender. Thank you.

可以搜索公号【璐璐的英文小酒馆】或者添加【luluxjg2】加入社群，查看文稿和其他精彩内容哦~ Hi everyone, and welcome back to Global Village. 欢迎回来【小酒馆·大世界】. We're very happy to get Simon back, Simon from New Zealand. Hi, Simon. Hey Kia ora, how’s going？ Kia ora, it's going well. And I would like to propose a topic today that I'm not sure if it's sensitive or not. There are not a lot of sensitive topics when it comes to New Zealand, but this one just might be, it's New Zealand versus Australia. Don't get me started. You know the thing is, neighbors, if you look at the world, neighbors or neighboring countries usually have somewhat of a love hate, a really strange, subtle, nuanced relationship from the UK I’ve talked to 安澜about their relationship with the French; I've talked to James from America... talked to their American relationship with Canadians. So with you, I thought we talk about New Zealand and Australia. So do you think New Zealand and Australia have that kind of nuanced love hate relationship. I mean we talk about a bit of a friendly rivalry, but personally I think we're not too dissimilar. We often joke about New Zealand is better at rugby, Australia, won at the cricket, nothing but.... Usually sports based. Usually sports based, they steal our celebrities. A lot of Kiwis, perhaps Kiwis a little bit older than me. There used to be a really famous New Zealand band called Split Enz. They grew up in New Zealand, they started in New Zealand. But the Australians all say that they're an Australian band, that makes people upset. It's the origin story. New Zealand is claiming Russell Crowe as a New Zealander, Australian say he's Australian, so Australians are pretty good at stealing our stuff. Okay, you just said there's no love hate relationship, yet you accuse them of stealing. Because they're “bad people”. For all my friends out there who are Australians or living in Australia, no offense. Like it's Simon's opinion, doesn't represent the opinion of the show, I need to have this disclaimer here. Alright, but jokes aside, I think to, before we get into this topic, let's give our audience a general idea. How far is New Zealand from Australia? How far are these two countries apart? I know most people obviously know if you have a little bit of geographical knowledge, you know that these countries are very close together, but exactly how close. So it's quite deceptive.

可以搜索公号【璐璐的英文小酒馆】或者添加【luluxjg2】加入社群，查看文稿和其他精彩内容哦~ Hi, everyone and welcome back to Britain Under the Microscope. 欢迎回来【闲话英伦】Hi, 安澜. Hi, Lulu. Hi, everyone. So, last time we were talking about part time jobs for students and you were sharing with us your quite unsuccessful or successful experience working part time. Yes, as a waiter I worked for about maybe 4, 5 weeks... And got fired. I wasn't fired. You were asked to leave. I was just told not to come back. There is a difference. But you were a pretty successful tour guide. Yes. I wasn't fired from that job. But we also talked about in our previous episode on expenses for students, we talked about how expensive our universities and do parents pay for their kids’ education. And we ended up talking about 70% of British university students have student loan. I don't know if this is the latest figure, but this figure is relatively new. Do you mind if I asked, did you have student loan when you were in universe? Yeah. Back then you only had one loan and that was just called student loan. But now you have two different types of loan. You have a tuition fee loan, which is the loan directly for your tuition fees. 就是学费的贷款. This is paid directly to the university. And for everyday expenses, rent and all of that, you have the maintenance loan. 就好像生活费的贷款. Parents don't help at all? It depends. It really does. But I can talk a little bit about my own experience. So because I was working, I only really took out the money as a loan to pay for my tuition fee. That's because my first year at university I lived in halls (学生宿舍), I should use my savings to pay the fees to live in halls, and I worked to get a little bit of that extra money. And the second and third year I lived at home. So I would say in that type of situation is quite common. My parents didn't ask me for rent or I didn't have to chip in for food and drink and things like that. I see. So they don't give you money per se. You don't get pocket money. But they basically in a way subsidized your living because they allow you to live under their roof without charging you. They don't charge you for food when you stayed at home that sort of thing. I see. And there are some parents that do give an allowance to their kids, but I would say that's not seen as a good thing, that's not seen as something the children would be particularly proud of. So they're not gonna go around and say, my mom and my dad they just give me￡5,000. They're not gonna do that. No, because people would actually judge them because the whole idea of being at university is that you are becoming more independent. So that's why lots of university students they're trying to go to universities probably a bit further away from where they live. I see. I can take my niece for example. At the moment she's looking at universities that are completely in different cities from where she lives now. Because she wants to be independent, she wants to have her own life. I can relate to that actually. So when I was choosing universities, when I was in high school, I also it's not really like running away from your parents because you don't like your parents. It's more like you want to prove that you can make it on your own. Exactly. And I would say for 17, 18-year-olds in the UK, they don't look at themselves as children anymore. They want to start live in a more independent life and that's something that is actively encouraged. So it's not about how much allowance their parents would give them. It's more like how much they can earn and what kind of life they can live. Now bringing it a little bit back to student loan. Can anyone like, can anyone living, or British national, can anyone apply and get it approved? Yes, the maintenance loan is means-tested though. Means-tested? So that means they do award you a loan based on your household income and where you're studying. So for example, if you're living in London, then you get more money.

可以搜索公号【璐璐的英文小酒馆】或者添加【luluxjg2】加入社群，查看文稿和其他精彩内容哦~ 1)Mortgage a.Sounds really scary as it means ‘death pledge’. b.Actually means the pledge would be considered ‘dead’ when repaid. c.The idea of a mortgage dates back to the 1100s but it was only 20th Century that they became really popular. Hi, everyone. And welcome to our new segment 【It Means What?】 Yeah!!! You don't have to do this every time. No, I enjoy it. 欢迎大家回到我们的新板块【词源考古研究所】, hi, 安澜. Hi, Lulu, hi everyone. So in this segment, we are bringing you interesting origin stories of some of the most common words and phrases in English. So today's word, I'm gonna give you a little bit of a clue. Okay, what do you think is one of the scariest things that most people have in their lives？ I don’t know, illnesses? Even scarier than that in some cases. What do you think that we spend most of our money on？ So you're talking about money. I know what you're talking about, so you're talking about mortgage. Mortgage很多时候被翻译成房贷, 但它其实是抵押贷款的意思, 对吧？就是有个抵押物, it’s... we translated into house loan in Chinese mostly because that's... for most people mortgage is about house, most people don't have other things. The question is why don't we call it a housing loan in English? And the reason is and it sounds rather scary, it actually comes from French and Latin. It means “death pledge”. Death pledge, pledge is like a promise. Yeah. 所以有点死亡抵押的意思. It does sound scary. It does sound a little bit like someone's gonna kill you, but it's not actually it means pledge would be considered dead once the loan has been repaid. So basically, once you pay off your loan, then no longer exists, is dead. Exactly. It's technically dead. Actually, I've seen another version of the etymology. 我看到这个词源的另外一个解释, it's also death pledge, but they're saying it's more like the collateral that you put down like in case you're dead, so you borrowed money, right? Then you have to put your house or some of the things as collateral. 就是要把你房产或者地作为抵押物, because if you die, then how can they collect the money back？ That's also one other explanation of death pledge. Yeah. And there are lots of different explanations and that's one of the interesting things about etymology, is the fact that no one is hundred percent sure. 对, 词源学是一个非常有意思的事情, you can always go back and further back. And then there are different variations.

可以搜索公号【璐璐的英文小酒馆】或者添加【luluxjg2】加入社群，查看文稿和其他精彩内容哦~ Hi, everyone and welcome back to Britain Under the Microscope. 欢迎回来《闲话英伦》. Hi, 安澜. Hi, Lulu. Hi, everyone. So recently I've seen a lot of the clips, videos on social media about how much money a university student needs for day to day living. And that reminds me of a subject of working, especially when you're still a student. And I thought we both had experience in that. Oh, yes. By the way, when did you start working? When was your first job, part time? My very very very first job, I was about 12. Child labor much? 童工. No, it's not that bad. My mom used to work at florist. So when it was a really, really busy time, like for example, Valentine's Day or Christmas, what I would do is I would sit in the van with the driver who deliver flowers, but because it takes time for the driver to get in and out of the car, pick up the flowers, I would just be the runner. Oh, you are the flower boy, the flower delivery. I was a flower boy, so I'll just sit there, run out, knock on the door, leave the flowers so we can get to the next house, very quickly. But my first regular part time job, I was about 15, 16? I was 16, 17, actually 17, I think. Late starter. Not in China, but... so I thought we can spend a couple of episodes on talking about 打工, working part time job, as a very young person, as a student. So what was your part time job? My part time job is tutoring, using my brains. You had a very high-end part time job. All right. I mean, let's first start by talking about the age. When do kids in the UK start working part time? I don't think they start at 12, that’s against the law. No, that's only because it was like a family friend gave me a little bit of pocket money to do that. It's informal.

CAMPAGNA FINANZIATA AI SENSI DEL REG. UE N. 1308/2013 CAMPAIGN FINANCED ACCORDING TO UE REGULATION NO.1308/2013 可以搜索公号【璐璐的英文小酒馆】或者添加【luluxjg2】加入社群，查看文稿和其他精彩内容哦~ Since you're talking about Prosecco, now let's bring the topic back to Prosecco. Now, Mikelino, I know that Prosecco is one of your best selling items, right? Or you only do Prosecco, you do other wine as well? No, no. I do also sell wines or other kind of wines, but Prosecco is my king. Yeah. But why do you think it's so popular? Like compared with some of the other products that you sell？ Easiest answer is because it's super adaptable, super versatile to so many occasions, and we go from a formal dinner, a formal welcoming drink for a dinner to the craziest party that we can have in the nightlife places. This is a 360° of versatility found for such a wine. Prosecco DOC, it's the most exported wine that we have in Italy and this is the reason can use it. I mean, everybody is like every different kind of client there if you're talking to the B to B so from our restaurants to a bar to a club to private event, it's definitely my best selling item to around the 30% of my sales is out of Prosecco DOC. Oh. So adaptability and versatility. Yeah, and also it's very easy to drink, very easy to drink. It goes into cocktails. You can drink it by itself, as a serving style because it could be sweeter or drier according to your preference. So it's really something that find the highest level of applications and the highest number of consumers, not only women or a certain kind but everybody. Yeah. I mean, I totally agree with the versatility and adaptability part, and especially think about my community, I have a community of over 1 million followers. A lot of them, they would probably, like 70% are women, they would like to try some sort of wine, but they can't get into the heavy wine. I mean, we've held some really, really professional big wine sort of wine tasting. And then it seems like people find those very, very hard to accept because they haven't developed their palate so to speak, but Prosecco is just so friendly to beginners in wine tasting. Totally, yes. Yeah. Yes, I agree. Also I was surprised once we, I mean, talking about ourselves, when we started the cooperation with the Revolucion, I was kind of surprised because like nightlife club, I'm open to any kind of clients and Santi was saying, no, we have a very differentiated clientele and we do need the Prosecco, it is not just all about cocktails, despite that as we told before, now the mixology is an important part for Prosecco. This kind of wine is really a different than wine drinking. It's Prosecco drinking. It's a category per se, we could say. It's very different. So I'm gonna ask Santi actually, since Mikelino was saying that you guys were talking about your clientele, their drinking habits, so I'm going to ask is Presecco or sparkling wine in general a popular choice for your customers? OK, as we were talking before concerning the market, a different order from our shops. It's different because the network is different, but in some city, especially Shanghai like we sell a lot of Spritz. also because I'm half Italian half Albanian. So in every shop I have a part of Italian community in everywhere. So it's also for that, but not only for that, but in the end, people stay with me say oh I like these, can I try? It's such a great experience drinking Spritz on summer's day and just to remind our… Do you like it? I love it. Just to remind our listeners, Spritz, I hope I'm getting this correct. So Spritz is a sparkling wine like Prosecco, for example Prosecco and some other form of alcohol like for example I drink Aperol Spritz sometimes, so that is Aperol and Prosecco. And I want to say soda, like sparkling water, soda water? And orange slice. Totally right, yes. Yeah. You can be our new bartender. Thank you.

可以搜索公号【璐璐的英文小酒馆】或者添加【luluxjg2】加入社群，查看文稿和其他精彩内容哦~ Idiot keywords a.Comes from the Ancient Greek word – “idiṓtēs” which means “a private person” b.The Greeks believed that everyone should be involved in government of the city (or “polis” where the word politics come from) c.Every citizen had to attend the assembly. If they didn’t, they were marked with red paint and fined. d.Those who didn’t were seen as foolish or ignorant. Hi, everyone. And welcome back to our new segment. It means what? 欢迎大家回到我们的新板块【词源考古研究所】. Hi 安澜. Hi Lulu, hi everyone. In the segment, we will share with you some of the interesting origin stories of words and phrases in English. So what is the word for today? Idiot. I’m Sorry, why are you looking at me when you say that word? No, that's the word that we're gonna be discussing today, idiot. Idiot, 翻译成白痴、笨蛋. Yeah. Idiot is pretty rude, right? If you call them oh, such an idiot. Well, it's not like a swear word or anything, but nobody likes to be called an idiot. I would imagine idiot if it goes... even if you trace back to ancient times, it would have something to do with IQ? No. So it doesn't have to do with IQ? Nothing to do with IQ whatsoever. It comes from an ancient Greek word “idiṓtēs” . Which means？ A private person. A private person which means he keeps to himself? Pretty much. 就是不合群呗, a loner kind of. Well, a loner, but somebody who just is a bit unique as well. So not like everybody else. That's because the ancient Greeks believe that everybody should be involved in the government of their city. Everyone had to go to the assembly, all the citizens had to take part in the government. This strong sense of citizenship and community. And idiṓtēs was somebody who didn't do that. 还是觉得是不合群的人.

可以搜索公号【璐璐的英文小酒馆】或者添加【luluxjg2】加入社群，查看文稿和其他精彩内容哦~ keywords l How are cities different in terms of spending habits and consumer choices (drink orders)? How is the Chinese market different from other markets? l Have you noticed any changes compared with the days before Covid? (bars/clubs/wine business) Have the sales of prosecco recovered after the lifting of all restrictions? Guest speaker: Mikelino An entrepreneur based in Shanghai, a sommelier graduated by the Italian Sommelier Association, a passionate wine lover with rich experience in wine business. Santiliano A managing partner of a popular cocktail bar/nightclub franchise called Revolucion Cocktail, an enthusiastic wine lover with sharp perspectives towards the market. Hi everyone and welcome to the show, this episode is made in collaboration with the Prosecco Doc Consortium. Today we're very lucky to have two guests in the studio. Mikelino, who is a wine expert and runs his own wine import business, the wine guy; and Santi who is a managing partner of a very popular cocktail bar/nightclub franchise called Revolucion Cocktail, and they're both based in shanghai. So welcome to the show. Hello to everybody. Hi, everyone. First of all, could both of you tell us a little bit about your business? Let's start with Mikelino, I know you're like an old friend. You've been on the show last year talking to us about Prosecco, but could you tell us still a little bit about your business？ Yeah, absolutely. It's a great pleasure to be back. As you correctly mentioned, I am an importer and distribute wine under the company named The Wine Guy. But as most important, I’m representing Prosecco Doc as Casa Prosecco stuff from the Shanghai part, from the Shanghai branch, so I'm very glad to be back on your broadcast and… You are all about Prosecco. Yes, all about Prosecco, yeah, you know me very well. All right. And some of you probably have met or seen Mikelino during the live stream the other day and teaching me how to open a bottle of Prosecco. Okay, and Santi, could you tell us a little bit about your bar/ club？I noticed that you have a few different locations as well. So first of all, thanks for having me. And thanks also Mikelino to introduce for having these broadcasts. First of all, Revolucion is, as mentioned before, is a cocktail bar/club, why? Because Revolucion cocktail come from a Latino concept, is also a Revolucion cocktail and the first one was in Shanghai already 10 years have been past. Yes, and after we start to develop in all over China such as Guangzhou, Shenzhen, Xiamen, Chongqing, Chengdu. Now the next opening in China will be in Xinjiang in Keketuohai, the ski area. Yeah, we are also in the Bangkok, Thailand, and we opened the first one in France, it’s another concept but still under revolucion, but a very similar concept that is in other ski area. So the energy is, as we state, is a cocktail bar, so we have like cocktail and a high level cocktail. And after, who wanna keep going to party, it was found properly in a club. So you have this kind of connection between these two places and our definition for that is a jumping bar.

可以搜索公号【璐璐的英文小酒馆】或者添加【luluxjg2】加入社群，查看文稿和其他精彩内容哦~ Now moving away from topics that heavy, let's talk about everyday feminism. So at workplace, do French women nowadays struggle with the same equality issues at workplace like equal pay or sort of like equal opportunity to get promoted? Is there glass ceiling or maternal wall that sort of thing. In theory from what I know, the law in France is particularly they make sure that companies are not supposed to discriminate against like hiring a woman but that goes as well people from minorities because they are like around 20%...there is like a lot of people who actually come from like North Africa, Africa, Asian countries, a little bit of... and 1 or 2 generation ago, it was like more for Spain, Italy and Portugal. So we do have laws regarding discrimination, then after, obviously it's gonna be difficult to prove that you've been discriminated against. Like if I'm applying for a job, I'm a woman and another guy’s been selected, I think is gonna be a bit hard to convince a jury that they choose that guy because he was a guy and they didn't choose me because I was a woman. In my recollection, they have not been big public cases of discrimination like this. Still like a French woman, according to the law, people should be paid equally, but I just checked and roughly women are being paid roughly 15% less than men. Than men. Yeah, and I remember like recently a friend of mine she works in a big company. She was explaining to me that they decided the company was having nice bonuses and they decided to raise everyone’s bonus everyone’s salary, because they had such a good year, and good for them it’s just that at the end they raised everyone the same level. So the big manager they were making good money, so I think they give everyone 3% but so like she thought it was kind of silly because entry workers... He didn't really bridge. Yeah, like an entry worker, 3% is not gonna be the same as a big manager. So she thought like they should have equalized the pay of entry workers and women and people maybe who don't have a proper diploma. Sometimes it's a whole work in progress. And to give you another example, I think which is very important regarding maternity leave. French women enjoy a 6 months paid maternity leave when they have a child or the second or the third child. Whereas men just got 2 weeks and I do have a few friends of mine... I think this is roughly the same as in China, give or take, women get 4 to 6 months and men just get 1 or 2 weeks. That's... I don't know how you guys feel about that because that is hardly equal because that kind of sort of just effectively taking men out of the child care responsibilities because they simply do not have the time to do that. Yeah, definitely. And that is an issue. I do know that some of my French friend who became dad and who are supporting feminism, that's the one thing that would complain about. They would say like... they could like drop their job and take a 6 months non-paid vacation, but people are not stupid like if they have to choose between a salary or no salary, they are gonna take their salary. But I do know that some of them were like this is not fair like why can't I be with my spouse and or baby for 6 months, and because at the end it keeps on the discrimination like every man will would have to be forced to take like a 6 months parental leave. I think first of all, you would really reduce like the whole workforce like the chore that you do at home like then guys would have to do the same as woman hopefully. And then second then when you are hiring someone who is like around 28, 30, then you would not think about maybe take a man over a woman because at the end of the day, if they become a father, they would have to take a 6 months paid leave. But the problem is that's not the law right now. Hopefully it will change. But I do know that even for some of those dads, they are a bit like they are not that super happy a