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来源:小宇宙
上个月我在看ADCC世界冠军赛直播时,注意到一个反常画面:女子55KG级的亚军得主,巴西选手Ana Rodrigues打完决赛下台后,她的现场支持者里女性含量出奇得高,这在完全以男性团队为主导的巴西柔术项目中极其罕见。顺着由此产生的好奇查下去,我找到了Organic House:全世界唯一一家独立运营且在商业上活下来了的女子柔术馆,正是由Ana Rodrigues创办。
但这集播客我不想讲她为女子柔术发展做出了怎样的奉献与牺牲,圣人般为爱发电的自燃故事我们已听了太多。但回到现实会发现,牺牲不可复制也不可持续,唯有适应环境的步步为营能产生可持续影响。
所以这集节目将与大家的分享的并不是一个吃苦奉献的故事,而是一个15岁揣着一百雷亚尔离家出走的贫民窟女孩如何通过聪明的规划、机智的市场定位、灵活的运营模式一步步创建起巴西最强大的女子柔术社群的故事,以及世界女子柔术四十年历史中那些前辈们尝试过的道路。
我们中国的【NVYE女也】也在继续为推动中国女子柔术发展做努力。这集播客上线时,我们刚刚完成深圳与上海两个城市连办四场免费女子柔术公开课,为120名零基础女性提供了柔术入门教学。此后,我们还将在成都和北京与当地一线女子柔术运动员兼馆长联动,继续免费开展女子柔术入门教育活动。我们也将在11月于上海、北京、深圳、成都开展女也选拔赛,于12月13日在昆山举办女也柔术冠军赛,届时将汇聚亚洲顶尖女子柔术运动员们同台竞技,为大家展示女子柔术的精彩、运动员们的坚韧力量。
更多女也相关活动信息请关注:
官方微博:@女也柔术邀请赛
官方小红书:@女也柔术邀请赛
【时间线】
00:00:03 停更一年后,我又有话想说啦!
00:03:05 Ana Rodrigues, 开了全球唯一一家独立运营的女性柔术馆
00:11:33 15岁被父亲赶出家门,她带着一百块钱,从里约热内卢的贫民窟到圣保罗
00:15:40 在那家柔术馆的日子,是她不愿回忆的噩梦
00:17:43 拿到世界冠军也无法保障生活,而 Ana Rodrigues 在成年前就攒到了钱
00:20:31 20岁联合开创巴西柔术机构,为运动员提供英语培训和接受高等教育的机会,做营销,打造IP
00:29:10 令人感动的励志宣言,也是清晰的目标客户定位
00:38:34 她营造了一个多功能的商业空间,让更多人愿意走进来
00:42:16 一套精妙的排课原则,和一套以女性客户为本的管理准则
00:46:23 她把柔术训练和专业的心理咨询,打包成了一个有价格的产品
00:53:08 1985年至今:女子柔术发展史,从无到有与同工同酬
01:03:28 粉色腰带项目:推动女子柔术大众化
01:13:46 阿布扎比国家杯全女子柔术奖金赛:在一个父系传统地区,把钱发给母系的女儿们
01:17:52 女也:女子柔术邀请赛、女子柔术公开课、女子柔术开放垫
【主播】
Erica
微博 @Ericaliga :知名美食但不只是美食博主
小红书 @Estoica:爱好是打架和烤肉
【制作】
剪辑,时间线:土豆
微博 @悟归缘主
小红书 @一道到岛
【音乐】
嘎里嘎气原创音乐:
Gagaland - 嘎里嘎气Gagaland
【何处不相逢】
微博 @嘎里嘎气Gagaland
掌握最新节目信息,参与不定期抽奖活动
小红书@嘎里嘎气Gagaland
每周一篇英文播客推荐、书影音种草
本节目已同步更新于 苹果Podcast(海外区)、Spotify、Google Podcast、小宇宙播客App、蜻蜓fm、爱发电、网易云音乐 等平台
【Reference List】
本集播客中提到的大部分关于Organic House的运营信息整理自:
YouTube Pura 频道邀请Ana Rodrigues作为嘉宾的访谈(葡萄牙语,发布于2026年5月):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8d2qfZsiMo
和Organic House官方社媒内容:https://www.instagram.com/organic_housejj/
Ana Rodrigues · 比赛与生平信息取自:
* BJJ Heroes:https://www.bjjheroes.com/bjj-fighters/anna-rodrigues
* Elite Sports:https://www.elitesports.com/blogs/news/anna-rodrigues-bjj-world-champion-grappling-coach
* FloGrappling赛果专文:https://www.flograppling.com/articles/16180244-jasmine-rocha-wins-adcc-2026-gold-medal-at-55kg
* FloGrappling完整对阵与奖牌表:https://www.flograppling.com/articles/16172111-adcc-2026-brackets-results-schedule-how-to-watch
* Porrada赛果:https://www.porradanutra.com/articles/events/adcc-krakow-2026
* IBJJF官网访谈:https://ibjjf.com/news/anna-rodrigues-ibjjf-flograppling-gp-interview
Dream Art相关信息整理自:
* Wikipedia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Art
* BJJ Heroes对Bahiense的访谈:https://www.bjjheroes.com/interview/bahiense-discusses-the-house-where-dreams-are-fought-for-the-dream-arts-project
* Jiu Jitsu Legacy:https://jiujitsulegacy.com/bjj-lifestyle/dream-art-project/
* BJJEE:https://www.bjjee.com/articles/dream-art-the-project-producing-future-black-belt-world-champions/
* Digitsu Bahiense 传记:https://digitsu.com/people/isaque-bahiense
世界女子柔术历史相关信息整理自:
* Yvonne Duarte Wikipedia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yvonne_Duarte
* BJJ Heroes 人物:https://www.bjjheroes.com/bjj-fighters/yvone-duarte
* Jiujiteira Magazine:https://jiujiteiramagazine.com/2021/11/from-white-to-coral-yvone-duarte/
* Jiu Jitsu Legacy:https://jiujitsulegacy.com/bjj-lifestyle/first-female-bjj-black-belt-yvone-duarte/
* BJJEE:https://www.bjjee.com/bjj-news/bjjs-1st-ever-woman-black-belt-becomes-1st-woman-coral-belt-after-training-for-43-years/
* Princeton BJJ:https://www.princetonbjj.com/take-opportunity-build-community/
* Breaking Muscle:https://breakingmuscle.com/groundswell-grappling-concepts-rashguard-product-review/
* Emily Kwok Wikipedia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Kwok
* Jiujiteira Magazine:https://jiujiteiramagazine.com/2022/10/the-value-of-female-leaders/
* Sweaty Betties 创始人访谈视频(YouTube,2012):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ6J52Ba8Zw
* On The Mat 的训练营:http://onthemat.com/womens-grappling-camp-with-leticia-ribeiro-iii/
* Girls in Gis:https://www.girls-in-gis.com/about/
* Ground Standard对Shama Ko的访谈:https://www.groundstandard.com/accent-interview-with-shama-ko-of-girls-in-gis
* BJJ Girls Mag 访谈:https://bjjgirlsmag.com/interview-shama-ko-on-the-power-of-community-and-building-girls-in-gis/
* Women Empowered 粉带项目Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Madison:https://www.graciejiujitsumadisonal.com/women-empowered
* Women Empowered NYC / Ronin Athletics:https://womenempowered.nyc/
* Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Phoenix:https://graciejiujitsuphoenix.com/programs/women-empowered/
* Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Tulsa:https://www.gracietulsa.com/women-empowered
* Gracie University官方课程页:https://www.gracieuniversity.com/Pages/Public/Subject?su=152
* Gracie 带位体系:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gracie_jiu-jitsu_ranking_system
* Digitsu Ffion Davies 传记:https://digitsu.com/people/ffion-davies
* Adele Fornarino & BJJEE:https://www.bjjee.com/bjj-news/adele-fornarino-withdraws-from-adcc-2026-women-deserve-to-be-paid-more/
* Jits Magazine 评论:https://jitsmagazine.com/opinion-adcc-has-shown-how-much-they-value-female-athletes/
* MMA Mania:https://www.mmamania.com/bjj-news/405641/adcc-2026-payouts-increased-but-womens-purses-still-lacking-bjj-beat
阿布扎比国家女子柔术项目相关信息整理自:
* The National:https://www.thenationalnews.com/uae/schools-get-to-grips-with-jiu-jitsu-1.560565
* Khaleej Times:https://www.khaleejtimes.com/article/jiu-jitsu-to-improve-confidence-2
* Gulf News:https://gulfnews.com/amp/story/sport%2Femirati-youngsters-rule-world-kids-championship-1.1008176
* Carlos “Carlão” Santos Wikipedia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_%22Carl%C3%A3o%22_Santos
* FBMA 官网 About:https://www.fbma.ae/en/about-us/
* 阿布扎比体育理事会:https://adsc.gov.ae/clubs-and-federations/fatima-bint-mubarak-ladies-sports-academy-fbma/
* Arab News:https://www.arabnews.com/node/2010816/sport
* The National(Shamma Al Kalbani 专访):https://www.thenationalnews.com/sport/other-sport/2022/07/27/uae-golden-girl-shamma-al-kalbani-leading-the-way-for-next-generation-of-jiu-jitsu-stars/
* UAEJJF 官网里程碑页:https://events.uaejjf.org/en/uaejjf/key-milestones
* 阿布扎比媒体办公室活动页:https://www.mediaoffice.abudhabi/en/abu-dhabi-events/mother-of-the-nation-jiu-jitsu-cup/
* UAEJJF 赛事页:https://events.uaejjf.org/en/event/299
* Jiujiteira Magazine:https://jiujiteiramagazine.com/2023/12/winners-of-mother-of-the-nation-2023/
* About Her:https://www.abouther.com/node/64161/people/features/baniyas-jiu-jitsu-club-win-hands-down-mother-nation-jiu-jitsu-cup-abu
* 2025年3月届(Arab News):https://www.arabnews.com/node/2593620/%7B%7B
* 2026年1月届,含U12组(Aletihad):https://en.aletihad.ae/news/sport/4641420/mother-of-the-nation-jiu-jitsu-cup-opens-with-strong-perform
* Gulf News:https://gulfnews.com/amp/story/sport/three-golds-for-uae-at-jiu-jitsu-world-championships-1.500633573
* FightBook MMA:https://www.fightbookmma.com/uae-women-three-golds-2026-jiu-jitsu-world-championship/
但这集播客我不想讲她为女子柔术发展做出了怎样的奉献与牺牲,圣人般为爱发电的自燃故事我们已听了太多。但回到现实会发现,牺牲不可复制也不可持续,唯有适应环境的步步为营能产生可持续影响。
所以这集节目将与大家的分享的并不是一个吃苦奉献的故事,而是一个15岁揣着一百雷亚尔离家出走的贫民窟女孩如何通过聪明的规划、机智的市场定位、灵活的运营模式一步步创建起巴西最强大的女子柔术社群的故事,以及世界女子柔术四十年历史中那些前辈们尝试过的道路。
我们中国的【NVYE女也】也在继续为推动中国女子柔术发展做努力。这集播客上线时,我们刚刚完成深圳与上海两个城市连办四场免费女子柔术公开课,为120名零基础女性提供了柔术入门教学。此后,我们还将在成都和北京与当地一线女子柔术运动员兼馆长联动,继续免费开展女子柔术入门教育活动。我们也将在11月于上海、北京、深圳、成都开展女也选拔赛,于12月13日在昆山举办女也柔术冠军赛,届时将汇聚亚洲顶尖女子柔术运动员们同台竞技,为大家展示女子柔术的精彩、运动员们的坚韧力量。
更多女也相关活动信息请关注:
官方微博:@女也柔术邀请赛
官方小红书:@女也柔术邀请赛
【时间线】
00:00:03 停更一年后,我又有话想说啦!
00:03:05 Ana Rodrigues, 开了全球唯一一家独立运营的女性柔术馆
00:11:33 15岁被父亲赶出家门,她带着一百块钱,从里约热内卢的贫民窟到圣保罗
00:15:40 在那家柔术馆的日子,是她不愿回忆的噩梦
00:17:43 拿到世界冠军也无法保障生活,而 Ana Rodrigues 在成年前就攒到了钱
00:20:31 20岁联合开创巴西柔术机构,为运动员提供英语培训和接受高等教育的机会,做营销,打造IP
00:29:10 令人感动的励志宣言,也是清晰的目标客户定位
00:38:34 她营造了一个多功能的商业空间,让更多人愿意走进来
00:42:16 一套精妙的排课原则,和一套以女性客户为本的管理准则
00:46:23 她把柔术训练和专业的心理咨询,打包成了一个有价格的产品
00:53:08 1985年至今:女子柔术发展史,从无到有与同工同酬
01:03:28 粉色腰带项目:推动女子柔术大众化
01:13:46 阿布扎比国家杯全女子柔术奖金赛:在一个父系传统地区,把钱发给母系的女儿们
01:17:52 女也:女子柔术邀请赛、女子柔术公开课、女子柔术开放垫
【主播】
Erica
微博 @Ericaliga :知名美食但不只是美食博主
小红书 @Estoica:爱好是打架和烤肉
【制作】
剪辑,时间线:土豆
微博 @悟归缘主
小红书 @一道到岛
【音乐】
嘎里嘎气原创音乐:
Gagaland - 嘎里嘎气Gagaland
【何处不相逢】
微博 @嘎里嘎气Gagaland
掌握最新节目信息,参与不定期抽奖活动
小红书@嘎里嘎气Gagaland
每周一篇英文播客推荐、书影音种草
本节目已同步更新于 苹果Podcast(海外区)、Spotify、Google Podcast、小宇宙播客App、蜻蜓fm、爱发电、网易云音乐 等平台
【Reference List】
本集播客中提到的大部分关于Organic House的运营信息整理自:
YouTube Pura 频道邀请Ana Rodrigues作为嘉宾的访谈(葡萄牙语,发布于2026年5月):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8d2qfZsiMo
和Organic House官方社媒内容:https://www.instagram.com/organic_housejj/
Ana Rodrigues · 比赛与生平信息取自:
* BJJ Heroes:https://www.bjjheroes.com/bjj-fighters/anna-rodrigues
* Elite Sports:https://www.elitesports.com/blogs/news/anna-rodrigues-bjj-world-champion-grappling-coach
* FloGrappling赛果专文:https://www.flograppling.com/articles/16180244-jasmine-rocha-wins-adcc-2026-gold-medal-at-55kg
* FloGrappling完整对阵与奖牌表:https://www.flograppling.com/articles/16172111-adcc-2026-brackets-results-schedule-how-to-watch
* Porrada赛果:https://www.porradanutra.com/articles/events/adcc-krakow-2026
* IBJJF官网访谈:https://ibjjf.com/news/anna-rodrigues-ibjjf-flograppling-gp-interview
Dream Art相关信息整理自:
* Wikipedia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Art
* BJJ Heroes对Bahiense的访谈:https://www.bjjheroes.com/interview/bahiense-discusses-the-house-where-dreams-are-fought-for-the-dream-arts-project
* Jiu Jitsu Legacy:https://jiujitsulegacy.com/bjj-lifestyle/dream-art-project/
* BJJEE:https://www.bjjee.com/articles/dream-art-the-project-producing-future-black-belt-world-champions/
* Digitsu Bahiense 传记:https://digitsu.com/people/isaque-bahiense
世界女子柔术历史相关信息整理自:
* Yvonne Duarte Wikipedia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yvonne_Duarte
* BJJ Heroes 人物:https://www.bjjheroes.com/bjj-fighters/yvone-duarte
* Jiujiteira Magazine:https://jiujiteiramagazine.com/2021/11/from-white-to-coral-yvone-duarte/
* Jiu Jitsu Legacy:https://jiujitsulegacy.com/bjj-lifestyle/first-female-bjj-black-belt-yvone-duarte/
* BJJEE:https://www.bjjee.com/bjj-news/bjjs-1st-ever-woman-black-belt-becomes-1st-woman-coral-belt-after-training-for-43-years/
* Princeton BJJ:https://www.princetonbjj.com/take-opportunity-build-community/
* Breaking Muscle:https://breakingmuscle.com/groundswell-grappling-concepts-rashguard-product-review/
* Emily Kwok Wikipedia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Kwok
* Jiujiteira Magazine:https://jiujiteiramagazine.com/2022/10/the-value-of-female-leaders/
* Sweaty Betties 创始人访谈视频(YouTube,2012):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ6J52Ba8Zw
* On The Mat 的训练营:http://onthemat.com/womens-grappling-camp-with-leticia-ribeiro-iii/
* Girls in Gis:https://www.girls-in-gis.com/about/
* Ground Standard对Shama Ko的访谈:https://www.groundstandard.com/accent-interview-with-shama-ko-of-girls-in-gis
* BJJ Girls Mag 访谈:https://bjjgirlsmag.com/interview-shama-ko-on-the-power-of-community-and-building-girls-in-gis/
* Women Empowered 粉带项目Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Madison:https://www.graciejiujitsumadisonal.com/women-empowered
* Women Empowered NYC / Ronin Athletics:https://womenempowered.nyc/
* Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Phoenix:https://graciejiujitsuphoenix.com/programs/women-empowered/
* Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Tulsa:https://www.gracietulsa.com/women-empowered
* Gracie University官方课程页:https://www.gracieuniversity.com/Pages/Public/Subject?su=152
* Gracie 带位体系:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gracie_jiu-jitsu_ranking_system
* Digitsu Ffion Davies 传记:https://digitsu.com/people/ffion-davies
* Adele Fornarino & BJJEE:https://www.bjjee.com/bjj-news/adele-fornarino-withdraws-from-adcc-2026-women-deserve-to-be-paid-more/
* Jits Magazine 评论:https://jitsmagazine.com/opinion-adcc-has-shown-how-much-they-value-female-athletes/
* MMA Mania:https://www.mmamania.com/bjj-news/405641/adcc-2026-payouts-increased-but-womens-purses-still-lacking-bjj-beat
阿布扎比国家女子柔术项目相关信息整理自:
* The National:https://www.thenationalnews.com/uae/schools-get-to-grips-with-jiu-jitsu-1.560565
* Khaleej Times:https://www.khaleejtimes.com/article/jiu-jitsu-to-improve-confidence-2
* Gulf News:https://gulfnews.com/amp/story/sport%2Femirati-youngsters-rule-world-kids-championship-1.1008176
* Carlos “Carlão” Santos Wikipedia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_%22Carl%C3%A3o%22_Santos
* FBMA 官网 About:https://www.fbma.ae/en/about-us/
* 阿布扎比体育理事会:https://adsc.gov.ae/clubs-and-federations/fatima-bint-mubarak-ladies-sports-academy-fbma/
* Arab News:https://www.arabnews.com/node/2010816/sport
* The National(Shamma Al Kalbani 专访):https://www.thenationalnews.com/sport/other-sport/2022/07/27/uae-golden-girl-shamma-al-kalbani-leading-the-way-for-next-generation-of-jiu-jitsu-stars/
* UAEJJF 官网里程碑页:https://events.uaejjf.org/en/uaejjf/key-milestones
* 阿布扎比媒体办公室活动页:https://www.mediaoffice.abudhabi/en/abu-dhabi-events/mother-of-the-nation-jiu-jitsu-cup/
* UAEJJF 赛事页:https://events.uaejjf.org/en/event/299
* Jiujiteira Magazine:https://jiujiteiramagazine.com/2023/12/winners-of-mother-of-the-nation-2023/
* About Her:https://www.abouther.com/node/64161/people/features/baniyas-jiu-jitsu-club-win-hands-down-mother-nation-jiu-jitsu-cup-abu
* 2025年3月届(Arab News):https://www.arabnews.com/node/2593620/%7B%7B
* 2026年1月届,含U12组(Aletihad):https://en.aletihad.ae/news/sport/4641420/mother-of-the-nation-jiu-jitsu-cup-opens-with-strong-perform
* Gulf News:https://gulfnews.com/amp/story/sport/three-golds-for-uae-at-jiu-jitsu-world-championships-1.500633573
* FightBook MMA:https://www.fightbookmma.com/uae-women-three-golds-2026-jiu-jitsu-world-championship/