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Are plant-based substitutes healthier than meat?



Neil

Hello, this is 6 Minute English from BBC Learning English. I'm Neil.



Georgie

And I'm Georgie. If you've heard about Meat-Free Mondays or Veganuary, you probably know about a trend which an increasing number of people are trying – to reduce, or even stop, eating meat. This is often for health, animal welfare or environmental reasons.



Neil

Instead, people are getting their daily amount of protein through plant-based alternatives – meat-free sausages and burgers made using ingredients like soy, tofu or fungi, as well as tempeh, beans or nuts. Have you tried any of these plant-based meat alternatives, Georgie?



Georgie

Yes, I have. I have lots of vegetarian friends, so I've been to veggie barbecues, and have tried the plant-based sausages and burgers. I quite like them as long as they're covered in sauce. What about you?



Neil

Yeah, I think I agree. They're fine. There's a reason for them, but I'm not sure they're as good as the real thing. Now, with processed meat being linked to diseases like diabetes and cancer, most doctors agree that plant-based options are healthier. But some people are worried about how plant-based alternatives are made, including radio listener, Graham Glover, who asked this question to BBC Radio 4 programme, Sliced Bread:



Graham Glover

Well, my question is – looking at these vegetable sausages, how they are processed, full of additives and flavourings and colourings – are they any healthier than a pork sausage?



Georgie

In this episode, we'll be finding out whether plant-based foods really are a healthier alternative to meat. And as usual, we'll be learning some useful new words and phrases.



Neil

But now I have a question for you, Georgie. Listener Graham loves eating sausages, but do you know which of the following words means 'sausages' in British English slang? Is it: a)  booze, b) banger, or c) brunch?



Georgie

So, I actually know the answer to this question, so I'm not going to say. Otherwise, it will spoil it for our listeners.



Neil

OK. Well, we'll all find out at the end of the programme. Although most research agrees that plant-based foods are healthier than meat, it's also true that meat-free products are processed. To make meat-free sausages, for example, after the proteins are broken down, flavourings and colourings are added to reproduce the taste or texture of meat. Quorn, one of the best-known brands of meat-free products, uses mycoprotein, a fungi-based protein similar to the fungi used in the fermentation of yoghurt and bread.



Georgie

So, what does listener Graham think? Let's find out as he talks to Greg Foot, presenter of BBC Radio 4's Sliced Bread:



Greg Foot

Graham, listening to all this, you know, normally a fan of a meat sausage – you're plant-based, meat-alternative sausage curious, that we're exploring today – what do you think about hearing about the sources of where they come from? What's your gut reaction to hearing that Quorn comes from a fungus?



Graham Glover

I have no problems with that… it's just another form of protein, as far as I'm concerned – it's what's the healthiest.



Greg Foot

Yes, we will get to health. I think that's the big conversation for today.



Neil

Greg asks Graham for his gut reaction. Your gut reaction is your opinion based on your initial feeling or instinct about something. It can't be explained logically.



Georgie

Actually, Graham doesn't mind that his sausage protein is a fungus, as long as it's healthy. He uses the phrase, as far as I am concerned, to indicate that he is giving his own opinion on the subject.



Neil

Of course, healthy eating is important, but there are other factors influencing whether meat lovers like Graham could be persuaded to try plant-based alternatives. These include things like the taste, colour and texture of the sausage – in other words, whether a plant-based sausage looks and feels like real meat. Here's Greg discussing this point for BBC Radio 4 programme, Sliced Bread:



Greg Foot

It's interesting, isn't it? Because my mum is a long-time veggie, and we were talking about this, and she says, "I don't want my, you know, alternative proteins to resemble meat." That's one of the reasons she says she doesn't eat meat. But you, Graham, you said you do want your plant-based sausage to resemble a pork sausage.



Graham Glover

Yeah, I've always been a meat eater, but I do need a plant-based product to be similar in terms of flavour, texture, and appearance.



Georgie

Graham wants his plant-based sausages to resemble, meaning look similar to, meat. But that's not the case for Greg's mum, who's a long-time veggie. A veggie is slang for a vegetarian, a person who doesn't eat meat. And the adjective long-time describes someone who has been or done a particular thing for many years. So, a long-time veggie is someone who's been vegetarian for many years.





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