Jaron Lanier is a computer scientist, composer, artist, author, and founder of the field of virtual reality. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:

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OUTLINE:

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(00:00) – Introduction

(08:04) – What is reality?

(12:17) – Turing machines

(13:35) – Simulating our universe

(19:49) – Video games and other immersive experiences

(23:37) – Death and consciousness

(32:08) – Designing human-centric AI

(33:42) – Empathy with robots

(37:33) – Social media incentives

(49:53) – Data dignity

(57:26) – Jack Dorsey and Twitter

(1:09:10) – Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies

(1:13:51) – Government overreach and freedom

(1:24:06) – GitHub and TikTok

(1:26:16) – The Autodidactic Universe

(1:31:07) – Humans and the mystery of music

(1:37:17) – Defining moments

(1:48:03) – Mortality

(1:49:56) – The meaning of life