quite good

Yao 唱love story 好可爱呀哈哈哈哈哈

06:25 I love the man too😋 "I'd be the fearless leader!"

感觉她就很像国内的邓紫棋，伴随着国内很多人一起成长

【转录1/10】 Hey guys, it's Gossip English time! 14#i=X*3! Let's learn English through Gossip! Hello! This is Yao. And I'm Wing. So, Wing, in the previous episodes, we talked about the TV series. We talked about the films. So, today I have another question for you. OK. Recently, what kind of songs have you listened to? Well, I used to listen to a lot of songs, but recently I mostly listen to podcasts. Oh wow! Our podcast? Of course, and a lot of other podcasts. I've been listening to podcasts for a long, long time, more than a decade, maybe 15-20 years, I don't know. Wow, that's why your English is so good, right? How did you know my podcasts are all in English? Because I know you well. That's true. And I also know you know music well,.. because you are a drummer. Yeah. This is a fun fact. Yeah, it's a while ago. I haven't played drums for quite a while. It doesn't matter. So, what's your favourite song genre? Well, when I listen to music, l listen to all kinds of music, like rock'n'roll, classic rock, jazz, blues, classics, everything. Yeah, I can tell. Because last time when we went for karaoke, you sang a lot of songs, you know, different kinds of songs. And I remember when we sang "Look What You Made Me Do, Look What You Made Me Do". Oh, Taylor Swift. A song she used to fight back against Kenya. Yes, I was totally shocked, you know. I thought you were a rock'n'roll person. I didn't expect that you like Taylor's song. I am everything. I'm full of surprise. What are you talking about? So, what do you think of Taylor Swift? Well, Taylor Swift is definitely a phenomenon. That's why I listen to some of her songs. Because so many people around me are her fans, and I really want to know why. So, I check out some of her songs. Okay. So, do you like any songs or what do you think about her songs? I didn't listen to her songs album by album. l just opened NetEase 网易 The top ones. Yeah, and I just check out her songs. I found she surprised me. How?

yao唱歌那段我反复听了几遍，太可爱了。 you are the princess.

隔着屏幕我都能受到Yao录这期的兴奋哈哈哈

【转录2/10】 At first, I thought her song style is pretty the same. Like country music. Yes. And then I found out she actually can handle many kinds of music, like soft songs, country songs, of course, and some very electronic pop songs. Oh, yes. That's true. That's true. So, I think nobody doesn't know Taylor Swift, right? Because she is a mega star 超級巨星。 Yeah, she's a phenomenon， 就是一个超級現象. You know, I first knew Taylor when I was in high school. Her classic song at that time was "Love Story" I think it's one of her first songs. Maybe not the first one, but the... One of the first songs. Yes, the hit one. Everybody knew it. My music teacher asked me to pick a song to perform in front of my class. So, I chose this one. I sang in front of my crush. "You'll be the prince and I'll be the princess. It's a love story. Baby, just say yes." Nice. I was super shy. But you know, even though I know her songs for a very long time, I never consider myself a Swiftie.就是她的歌迷.1 don't think l’am one of her fans. But after watching the movie "The Era's Tour", I was amazed. Have you ever been to her concert or watched the movie? No, actually no. But I heard of the movie. Specifically, she told her fans, you can use your phones to record whatever whenever you want. So, that is very special of her, I think. Yes, exactly. Oh my gosh, you missed one of the greatest shows. Okay. I know. So, actually ! watched the movie twice. Wow. I have to say, Taylor showed incredible endurance and dedication while performing. Even though I was just at the cinema, not in the concert, when she pointed to parts of the crowd to see how loud they would scream, you know what I did? You screamed? Yeah, I was like... Wow, you are a Swiftie now. Yes, I was deeply motivated and felt I was part of the crowd. She had that magic. When she looked into the audience, saying "this is getting dangerous, it's about to start going in my head, it makes me feel so powerful." Okay, I can tell you're a bit speechless now.

【转录3/10】 Well, you're just a fan. Phonetic fan. Actually, at this time, I also absorbed the passion, enthusiasm, strength from her. Wow, okay. That's definitely an idol. So,you are 路转粉. Yeah，路转粉，我现在是一个小粉 A stranger to stance. Yes. 路转粉. So, what's your favorite performance? Well, there are so many performances in my head, but if I have to pick one, I would say "The Man". Have you ever heard that song? No. Okay, before the show, before the movie, actually, I never listened to that. But during the movie, I was struck by the bluntness of the premise. So, you know, Taylor dressed like a man in a suit jacket, and she walked through a multi-story office of the dancers, and typing away at the late-century desk, thinking about how she'd act if she could get away with all the things men can, like anger, sleeping around, and picking what they want. So, all the bad things about men. Shh. So, actually, Taylor herself sets a really good example of how a powerful woman can be. So aspirational. That's very feminism. Yeah. So, I really like that show. And you know what? A few days ago, Taylor Swift actually. released a new album. Do you know how many songs in that album? Usually, like around 11, 12 songs at top per album. Before, when a physical CD is still a thing. Yeah. But the new album, The Tortured Poet's Department, 苦难诗社, unleashed 31 new songs. That's a lot of songs. Yeah. Compared to the previous confirmed 16 main and 4 bonus tracks, somebody actually.. said, you know Blackpink? Yes. The famous ones. The Korean girl band. Yeah. So, they made 30 songs in the last 8 years. Wow. So, Taylor Swift just used like 1 year to complete others 8 years efforts. Well, we all know Taylor Swift is a very productive songwriter, right? And you know what? Taylor Swift's new album broke a Spotify record.

【转录4/10】 Of course. I said it already. Taylor Swift is a phenomena, which means her fans are always crazy about her, will do whatever she says, and of course will put her songs on the top of whatever ranking systems. So, can you guess a number for one single day stream？就是一天它最大的播放量是多少？ I can’t guess. Just tell me about it. It's 300 million. 三亿点播率 对，三亿的播放量，只是在一天的时间内。 Well, just like I said, phenomena. Okay, so there is a song, very typical, called "thanK you alMie". Oh, I read about it. Very typical Taylor Swift style to say what she wants in a song. Do you know what is it about? About Kim Kardashian. Apparently, there is something between Taylor, Kim Kardashian and... Kenya? Yeah, of course, they have very bitter history. Yeah, the lyric of Thank You Amy says, and maybe you've reframed it, and in your mind, you never beat my spirit, black and blue. I don't think you've changed much. And so I changed your name and any real defining clues. And one day, your kid comes home singing a song that only us two is gonna know it's about you. Yep, I think Kim Kardashian's daughter, Northwest, I think, she loves Taylor Swift. And I remember a video about her and Kim dancing together with Taylor Swift's song. So based on their bitter history, that is quite interesting. 我真的是觉得，Taylor 她写这个歌词真狠，就是杀人于无形之中，就是用她.. Kill you without you know it. 她用 Kim Kardashian 的软肋，她的女儿，用她来杀 Kim Kardashian。oh my god.真的不可置疑，Taylor她的写词功力真的是一流。 是呀，她最厉害就是她的词功力，其实她是乡村音乐出身的嘛，就一般来说就是乡村音乐的人都特会写词，就是乡村音乐的特点是这样子。So as far as l know, country music writers usually can write really good lyrics. That's the whole, I think, kind of the whole point of country music in some way. That's actually a fun fact for me. I don't really know, you know. So, Wing, do you know why she is so successful? I think because she's a pretty girl. Definitely. She's very pretty and tall, very gorgeous. As a celebrity or superstar, she fulfilled some basic requirements. And then she can write songs, the lyrics are pretty good.

【转录5/10】 And also her background story is very dramatic. Also inspiring. Yeah, true, true. How she grows from just a little girl who sings country music to a celebrity, like right now becoming a megastar and becoming a phenomenon. Yeah. So that's why I think she's so successful. What's your opinion? Well, you really have a good point. And I think why she is so successful, we can name so many reasons. But the most important one is that very few people have her songwriting talent. 就是没有她的天赋。 Talent is a good word.你可以用来形容很多不同的才能。就是你 非常有天赋。 就好像我们的周杰伦一样，是不是？ Jay Chou. He's a very talented songwriter too. And we can also say he's a talent. 他是一个天才。 And talking about Taylor Swift, she has a terrific ear in terms of how words fit together. 她有一个很灵敏的耳朵，可以将词拼在一起。就这个 terrific 就是非常棒、很优秀。 所以其实不是每个人都有那个…Gift. Yeah, gift. And she also has a sense of writing songs that convey a feeling, that can make you imagine this is the songwriter's own feelings. Oh, convey a feeling.她就可以很擅长去表达感情。Convey her feelings, express herfeelings.这是一个词汇，我们可以多用一用，在表达。我们国人是比较委婉的嘛，比较含蓄。但是我们可以 convey our feelings more. Yeah, to our loved ones. Yes. And I remember when she recorded the song, her ex texted her, and then she said, we are never ever ever getting back together. Actually, this is how this song was written, based on this background. Did she convey your feelings? Well, yeah, I think so. Okay, that's why you become a fan. And she also is really good at telling stories and creating characters. I remember in the album "Folklore", she said some of the songs were not based on her personal experiences. Actually, she was creating the characters. She was imagining how this girl met the other man, and then what happened to them. So actually, she was creating a scene. Wow. Yeah. So she's kind of like a novelist. Yeah, I think so. She can write the songs that take place at one moment, and also write the songs where the successive verses give you a series of events, just like in "Betty" or "Fifteen".

【转录6/10】 对。 And her great genius and her innovations and her brilliance as a songwriter is melodic and verbal. Wow, this is a lot of good words to describe her. Genius, innovations and brilliance. Genius 就是天才。 Innovation 就是她的创作性，创造性，创造力。And brilliance 就是聪穎脱慧。 对。 So what else, besides her songwriting skills, what else do you think makes her so popular? Before I answer this question, let me ask you a common sense. So what is the most important thing for a celebrity? Good question. Let me think. I think for celebrities, they definitely need to have something that others can talk about, like gossip. I think that's part of being celebrities. And people would love to talk about you. But the most important thing is fans. Without the fans, how can you be a celebrity, right? How can you have so many fans? Because she has a really strong social and emotional bond with her fans. 跟她的粉丝。她有非常强的社交跟情感连结。 对。 Because the first piece is relatability. 关联性，连结性。Relatability. Even though there's aspects of her that maybe don't feel very relatable, you know, she's a celebrity and lives in a different life from her fans like me. And have a very fancy boyfriend or boyfriends. She lives in a big house. She has so many bags, you know. Of course. But what she is singing about, especially the lyrical content as well as the emotions, are very relatable to so many people. I think good lyrics can resonate with people easily, especially emotionally. When you feel the same as her, you feel like, oh, she speaks for you. And that makes you feel like I'm relating to her. Yeah. You remember at the beginning of this podcast, I mentioned how I first knew Taylor Swift by the song Love Story, right? You're singing this song to your crush. Yes, exactly. Because at that time, what she wrote was what I felt. So that's why I can feel her. I see. But you were not her fan yet at that time. Not yet, not yet. Something must have happened in your life. You will never know.

【转录7/10】 That's why you mentioned we are never ever getting back together. Yeah. And then the other thing is, her fans have a lot of millennials. 千禧一代 As well as Gen Z. Z 世代 Our fans of Taylor Swift. Swifties.他们都是Taylor 的粉丝。Yes，Swifties. So many people actually grew up alongside her.Just like me. 就是我们都是伴随着，应该是说Taylor都是跟我们一起成长，所以我们也见证了她的成长，所以她的那个粉丝群体并不是一两年就积累起来，就是她经历过什么跟我们的经历也差不多，比较容易产生共鸣。而且她的歌词也是比较偏情感类型，所以感觉对很多小女生来说，也是比较容易产生共鸣的。 就像我一样嘛，just like me. And Taylor is also very aspirational. 非常鼓舞人心的。 She is definitely a role model. Because she is a great example of someone who sticks to their values and shows their fan base that they can reach their goals, whatever those might be. Wow. So she's definitely an idol. Just somehow it sounds like a goddess to a lot of people. 她是我的女神 It's very interesting that usually pretty girls' fan base are males. But for Taylor Swift, most of her fans are girls. Oh, yeah. You have a really good point, right? Yeah, that's very interesting. I think just because she shows the ladies, the girls, how a powerful woman can be. Yeah. Very aspirational. Yep. So by the way, what do you think of her new album? Have you listened to her new album? I have listened to a few songs. I think she is very challenging. What do you mean by challenging? Because unlike her previous albums, this new album is a bit different. So I think she is trying a new music genre or she is working with different producers and trying something new. So I think she is very creative. I don't want to comment about the songs because I think, you know，各花入各眼。 So everyone has their own taste. Yes. How about you? For me, I think the lyrics writing is really good. But I hope the Swifties don't hate me. But l think the melody is a little bit too monotonous. 就是旋律上面有点太一致 了，太雷同了，太相似了，但是歌词还是写得很好，特别是那首说 Kim Kardashia.那首，我觉得太厉害了 対，真的是好棒。So, Wing, talking about why she is so successful and there is another thing that l didn't mention just now. I think she really has a strong heart.她有一个非常强大的心脏。

【转录8/10】 为什么？为什么这么说？Oh, Kenya and Kim Kardashian thing？ Yeah, you know, at that time, she faced the criticisms, the rumors, the gossips. Like we talk about her now. She always stays strong and waits for the right chance to fight back. 君子十年不晚。A true noble takes his time or her time. Revenge can wait a decade. Exactly. That's why I think she has a really strong heart. Sounds like I should listen to her songs more often. You should. Окау. So after so much about Taylor Swift, let's get into something serious. Anything that we've just learned can be used in our exams? Of course. Also in IELTS. Of course. In part 2, there is a question. Describe a well-known person you like or admire. You should say who this person is, what this person has done, why this person is well-known, and explain why you admire this person. Okay, so how can we use all those words we've learned? Of course, you know which person I'm going to talk about. Taylor Swift. So Taylor Swift is someone who I admire most. Firstly, she has terrific songwriting talent. Terrific 跟 talent，就是我们刚刚学到的两个词。Terrific 非常棒，talents 天赋 Her songs can convey a feeling that makes you imagine this is the songwriter's own feelings. Convey a feeling 表达你的感受，传达一种感情、感受 Her great genius and her innovations and her brilliance as a songwriter is melodic and verbal. Genius 天才，innovation 创造力，brilliance 就是她的天资聪颖 Besides, she has a really strong social and emotional bond with her fans. Emotionalbond，就是她的情感联结。 And the first piece is the relatability. 关联性 relatabiity Her lyrics and emotions are very relatable to a lot of people. Relatable 就是 relatability 的一个变形，就可以说如果跟一个人有非常强烈的关联性，那就可以用relatable，是一个形容词。 Sorry, 太广普了，And then, she is very aspirational. Aspirational，非常鼓舞人心 She is definitely a role model because she sets a great example of someone who sticks to their values and show their fanbase that they can reach their goals. 就是可以很好地实现他们的目标。She is a goddess. 她是一个非常好的榜样。 Anything else? Any questions that is related to celebrity or superstars?

【转录9/10】 Ok, so in part 1, also we have a question. Who is your favorite celebrity? I know, for you, it's definitely Taylor Swift. How about you? Well, my favorite celebrity is... probably for most of you, you don't know who he is. His name is Benny Greb. He is a German drummer. I like his music a lot. Very laid-back, a little bit jazz style. But he also can play all kinds of styles in drums, of course. What inspires me the most is his drumming skills. He explains how to play drums in a very basic, logical, almost to the extent of mathematics. For me, that's very innovative to learn how to play drums. So maybe some teachers only teach you how to play the instruments. But this drummer, this celebrity, will teach you the principles, the logic behind the instruments, right? Yes. Oh, wow, that's interesting. I think most of you don't know who he is, but it's fine. He is my celebrity. Any other questions? Well, also in part 3, we have a question. What kinds of people become famous these days? A lot. Thanks to Douyin and Xiaohongshu, everyone can be famous now. What do you think? Well, I think they have something in common. First, their appearance. Of course, they have. to be good-looking, right? We can fake it through Al now, but okay. And filter. Yep, keep going. And the other thing is talents. Ah, okay. Yeah. If you don't have any talents, you don't have anything to show off to your audience. Nobody actually cares about who you are. So you have to have something. For example, like Taylor Swift. She has the terrific songwriting talent. 有非常棒的写歌天赋。 Yeah. And another thing is the connection with your fans. The strong social and emotional bond. That's also a very good word. You can use it a lot. The bond 就是联结、关联。 And in this information era, people actually want to find some motivations through the Internet. That's why those people who want to become famous have to be very aspirational. 非常鼓舞人心的。

【转录10/10】 Yeah, I think that's those key elements, key factors that make people become famous today. Yeah, that's true. And talking about today, I think it's time for today. And listen to Taylor Swift more. Just see if you can feel the same as Yao. Yeah. I'm looking forward to your comments. Taylor 的粉丝在我们的小红书或者是微博。还有小宇宙，苹果博客，QQ 音乐，喜马拉雅集合。 对，大家可以给我们留言。不管你是想说点关于 Taylor Swift的内容，还是想跟我们交流英语都可以给我们留言。也希望大家可以多用学到的词来造句，然后我们可以多多交流。 记得我们全平台的名字就是<尬聊英语Gossip English>，关注我们。Have a nice weekend， thank you! See you, bye!