我从家里出门，步行五公里就来到了海边，这期节目是在海边，在海鸥、冲浪者和海风陪伴下制作的，它也是我在新西兰制作的第一期岁念节目。从这期节目开始，《狗熊有话说》播客，真正具有了全球化的视角。 I left home, walked 5 kilometers and I could see the ocean. I recorded this episode on the shore, this is the first episode I made in New Zealand. BearTalk became a real global podcast from today.


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