Paul Krugman is a Nobel Prize winner in economics, professor at CUNY, and columnist at the New York Times. His academic work centers around international economics, economic geography, liquidity traps, and currency crises.

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00:00 – Introduction

03:44 – Utopia from an economics perspective

04:51 – Competition

06:33 – Well-informed citizen

07:52 – Disagreements in economics

09:57 – Metrics of outcomes

13:00 – Safety nets

15:54 – Invisible hand of the market

21:43 – Regulation of tech sector

22:48 – Automation

25:51 – Metric of productivity

30:35 – Interaction of the economy and politics

33:48 – Universal basic income

36:40 – Divisiveness of political discourse

42:53 – Economic theories

52:25 – Starting a system on Mars from scratch

55:11 – International trade

59:08 – Writing in a time of radicalization and Twitter mobs