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《刺猬》自从官宣以来，经历了将近三年时间才首映。相比今年金爵奖主竞赛其他华语片的进度，算是制作节奏很慢的一部电影了。为什么会拉到这么久，在本期节目里我们进行了一番八卦性质的猜测，纯属个人猜测哈。

《刺猬》改编自作家郑执的短篇小说《仙症》，讲述了一段发生在东北的家庭史诗，带有强烈的魔幻色彩。在转译为影像的过程中，顾长卫发挥了自己在画面设计上的长处，把原著中王战团的视点呈现在影像里。本期我们就来聊聊，电影和原著小说的之间的关系，究竟拍出了几分神韵？然而受到种种条件限制，《刺猬》又有哪些无法弥补的遗憾？葛优王俊凯这爷俩的搭档，激发出了怎样的化学反应？

2:27 凉菜

2:46 第一次参与和电影节官方日程不重合的媒体场，新鲜

5:12 热菜

5:29 对于顾长卫拍片节奏的认知

6:29 英皇影业与葛优大爷的合约回顾

8:37 故事删减的痕迹

9:45 与原著小说较为贴近

10:31 主菜

11:15 王战团被模糊化的身世

13:22 内容实质：两代男性所经历过的来自历史和家庭的风暴

14:33 王战团和周正跨越代际的交往

15:20 顾长卫作品中的人文关怀

17:25 核心台词——“卡住”的含义

21:40 东北群像的塑造

25:47 东北传统的萨满等信仰文化土壤丰厚

27:27 导演视听的创想：把家拍成船

30:46 关键节点之后，影像开始逐渐丧失魅力

33:47 葛优与小说中“王战团”形象的出入

34:27 葛优与范伟，两位表演大拿的戏路类比

35:43 葛优所追求的突破

38:56 清澈的呆傻

42:13 努力的小凯

46:11 后半截王俊凯表演的层次单一？争论

51:08 果盘

51:16 组合内三位少年如今在电影上各自走到哪步？大家想听吗

53:19 因为一个未来的选题，两位主播险些分道扬镳

shownotes in English:

Welcome to Douban to listen to NonsenseFuel 26th Shanghai International Film Festival related programs, thanks to Douban!

The Hedgehog has taken almost three years to premiere since its official announcement. Compared to the progress of other Chinese-language films in the main competition of this year's Golden Goblet Awards, it's considered to be a movie with a very slow production pace. Why it will pull so long, in this program we have a gossip nature of speculation, purely personal speculation haha.

The Hedgehog is based on the short story "Immortal Disease" by author Zheng Zhi, about a family epic that takes place in the Northeast with strong magical overtones. In the process of translating it to video, Gu played to his strengths in graphic design, presenting the point-of-view of the original book's Wang Zhantuan in the image. In this issue, we'll talk about the relationship between the movie and the original novel, and how much magic has been captured? However, due to various constraints, what are the irreparable regrets of The Hedgehog? What kind of chemistry was created by the pairing of Ge You and Wang Jun Kai?

2:27 Gazpacho

2:46 First time participating in a press field that doesn't overlap with the festival's official schedule, fresh!

5:12 Hot dishes

5:29 Perception of Gu Changwei's filming rhythm

6:29 Review of Emperor Motion Pictures' contract with Mr. Ge You

8:37 Traces of story deletion

9:45 Closer to the Original Novel

10:31 The main course

11:15 The blurred life of Wang Zhantuan

13:22 Substance: Storms from history and family experienced by two generations of men

14:33 The intergenerational relationship between Wang Zhantuan and Zhou Zheng

15:20 Humanistic Concerns in Gu Changwei's Works

17:25 The Meaning of "Stuck" as a Core Line

21:40 Portrayal of the Northeast

25:47 The rich cultural soil of traditional shamanic beliefs in the Northeast

27:27 Director's audio-visual creation: making a boat out of a home

30:46 After the key point, the image begins to lose its charm

33:47 The Difference Between Ge You and the Novel's "Wang Zhantuan" Image

34:27 Ge You and Fan Wei, analogies between the two great performers

35:43 The breakthrough that Ge You was looking for

38:56 Clearly dumb

42:13 The hardworking Kai

46:11 The single level of Wang Junkai's performance in the second half of the movie? Argumentative

51:08 Fruit plate

51:16 How far have each of the three teenagers in the group gone in their movies now? Do you want to hear about it?

53:19 The two anchors nearly parted ways over a future pick